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Holder, Michelle Obama talk voting rights

There are 68 comments on the Click Orlando story from Sep 22, 2012, titled Holder, Michelle Obama talk voting rights. In it, Click Orlando reports that:

Attorney General Eric Holder and first lady Michelle Obama weighed in Saturday on a battleground in the 2012 election: voting rights.

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Outta Luck

Ames, IA

#43 Sep 23, 2012
Lonewolf wrote:
<quoted text>You certainly have a right to vote,just show a picture I.D.,what's so difficult about that? obama wouldn't be in office today were it not for rampant voter fraud.
Rampant voter fraud?
Are you for real?
There is no significant voter fraud. This whole thing is a ploy by the right to keep people in demographics who don't vote for them from voting.
If you can clearly see Obama is a crazed socialist looking to destroy America surely you can see that, weather you refuse to believe it or not.
Good thing the republicans don't go after the " stupid" voter block, that is their whole base.
Comments here prove that DAILY.
Outta Luck

Ames, IA

#44 Sep 23, 2012
Replace the Disgrace wrote:
<quoted text>
Holder is a slime ball!
By slew all do mean he is the kind of guy who would shoot an 85 year old man in face, and then make HIM apologize for it?
Or do you mean he is the kind of slime ball who would send thousands of soldiers to die in the desert to chase some imaginary WMDs so he could get the guy who pissed off his dad 15 years earlier?

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#45 Sep 23, 2012
Asking for some sort of ID is anti-American. You should be able to vote where ever and when ever you want, as long as you promise to only vote once or twice.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#46 Sep 23, 2012
gfys wrote:
<quoted text>
Are id's free in your state?
I do not live in a major city -- by choice. So many things are difficult for all residents here. However, the community is great, the schools are great, the grocery shopping is not great. There is no taxi anymore - free or otherwise.
photo ID's = free.
May present one of the following to obtain:
A driver's license or nondriver's identification card issued by this state or by another state or district of the United States
A concealed carry of handgun license issued by this state or a concealed carry of handgun or weapon license issued by another state or district of the United States
A United States passport
An employee badge or identification document issued by a municipal, county, state, or federal government office
A military identification document issued by the United States
A student identification card issued by an accredited postsecondary institution of education in the state
A public assistance identification card issued by a municipal, county, state or federal government office
An identification card issued by an Indian tribe
OR: apply at local motor veh. dept. for free non-driver id.
Free Birth Certificate in Order to Obtain Free Photographic Identification:
1. not possess any valid photographic identification documents under state law,
2. lack any of the documents necessary to prove identity,
3. sign an affidavit attesting to items 1 and 2,
4. be registered to vote in this state, and
5. have been born in this state.
6. A free driver's license will not be issued under this program, only a nondriver identification card will be issued.
7. A state driver's license and a state nondriver identification card cannot be held simultaneously by the same individual.
8. Only one birth certificate per person may be issued under this program. The recipient should keep it in a safe place for future needs.
9. The forms submitted under this program can be shared with other agencies.
10. Individuals not born in this state may find how to obtain a birth certificate in their state or territory at the National Center for Health Statistics website
Individuals who do not have proof of identity and do not wish to pay for such a document may apply for a State Voter Identification Document at no cost.(NOTE: This identification document is valid only for the purpose of voting in this state and may not be used for any other purpose.)
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I would like to know about free taxi service anywhere. he he.
Actually, we do have a free local bus for those 55 and older in this county and others in nearby counties. It is the result of a special federal grant for the "aged". Race and gender are insignificant as well as able-bodied or handicapped. The grant was written to apply to those aged 55 or older. Many utilize this free service to shop, go to dr, visit spouses in rest home, as well as vote.
Our local community has several individuals and groups who would transport those without a car and/or a long distance from church and the voting polls for the asking.
The only other free transportation I am aware of for a fact is provided on New Year's eve.
my goal is not to prove anything to anyone about fraud. It does exist. In one area, more votes were cast than the total list of registered voters. Draw your own conclusions. In any case, Photo ID, although not perfect, does encourage honesty and discourage dishonesty.
It is attainable at no cost. Why or why would anyone Not want to insure their vote actually counts and is not watered down? No ID increases fraud.
The only difficulty is to plan ahead and take a second to show your ID when voting -- even to a well know local buddy on the voting board. Welfare, banking, entering some government buildings, etc. all require ID. Our state follows the law, but allows for those who cannot (or will not) pay for any such ID to obtain one for free with very little hassle.
gfys

United States

#47 Sep 23, 2012
It would be nice if all states were like yours, if they were, I would be more accepting of the restriction. In Missouri, you have to not only show your BC, SSC, and proof of residence, it will also cost you $11, just for the id, for someone that has $10 to their name, that's too much! If we want to change the voting laws, it will need to come with changes in other laws.

Unless we are saying that the homeless, and poor, don't deserve a chance to vote? I personally think they are just as American as anybody else.
drink thE hive

New York, NY

#48 Sep 23, 2012
Your Perception Of Election' Being A Choice Made 4 U - With U Simply Opting 4 The One Who Poses Less Evil...

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xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#49 Sep 23, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
So did the Rodney King video, but Oh well..... Videos don't seem to always capture the true essence of a situation. You know knowing about the Arizona Minutemen isn't surprising, there's a lot you've proven in our dialogue you don't know.
Did you know that 40% of the Arizona residents pay nothing in Federal income taxes, and thus Arizona is one of the top 15 States that receives Federal largess. Pretty much Arizona is a moocher state, home of the Romney 47%ers...... Arizona has been consistently red and supporter of the GOP for decades, right?
What do you know about Az ?

Only 13% of the land is privately owned with the Feds owning the bulk of the 87% left.

As to your remarks about the Minutemen blow smoke up somebody elses azz. The Minutemen all but disappeared 5-6 years ago.

If people were harassing Latinos at the polls it would be big news here . About 30% of the LEOs in Az. are Latino including the chief of the Phx. PD. The Latino community would complain loudly if your accussations were correct and I'd support them. BTW , we've had photo I.D. voting for 7 years and no complaints.

As to the 47%, many retirees here plus 4 military bases so Fed money does flow in.Boosted by $$$ to secure the border.

Play your ignorant Neo-Marxist card some place else.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#50 Sep 24, 2012
I haven't even begun to cover the Federal Money that comes into Arizona, but it's a certainty that 40% of the Residents with taxable income pays nothing in term of Federal Income Tax..... No. 15 to be exact on the list of the 50 States.

The Federal Government paid 15 Million to Mexico for Arizona, and Texas along with the entire Southwestern Territory, 87% should belong to the American people.
xnutmegger wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you know about Az ?
Only 13% of the land is privately owned with the Feds owning the bulk of the 87% left.
As to your remarks about the Minutemen blow smoke up somebody elses azz. The Minutemen all but disappeared 5-6 years ago.
If people were harassing Latinos at the polls it would be big news here . About 30% of the LEOs in Az. are Latino including the chief of the Phx. PD. The Latino community would complain loudly if your accussations were correct and I'd support them. BTW , we've had photo I.D. voting for 7 years and no complaints.
As to the 47%, many retirees here plus 4 military bases so Fed money does flow in.Boosted by $$$ to secure the border.
Play your ignorant Neo-Marxist card some place else.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#51 Sep 24, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
I haven't even begun to cover the Federal Money that comes into Arizona, but it's a certainty that 40% of the Residents with taxable income pays nothing in term of Federal Income Tax..... No. 15 to be exact on the list of the 50 States.
The Federal Government paid 15 Million to Mexico for Arizona, and Texas along with the entire Southwestern Territory, 87% should belong to the American people.
<quoted text>
So what is your problem ?

Your TOPIX location exists on Fed. money to a much larger degree than does Phoenix Az.

Without Fed DoD monies along with VA money your area of Virginia would be swampy morass.

It takes balls for somebody from Norfolk/Newport News area to complain about Fed. money spent in Az.

What state has more people on the Fed. payroll combined with retired Fed. employees than Virginia ? Surely not Az. in % of population.

N. Va. is on the Fed payroll or trickle down from it. So is the Norfolk area.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#52 Sep 24, 2012
Sure, maybe because we house the largest military installations in America, and the Contracting Support that is required to secure America and take care of the Free Loader States like Arizona. We keep the nation safe and moving FORWARD! Virginia is the Nation's Front Door....... ROFLMAO where as Arizona is the half bathroom....
xnutmegger wrote:
<quoted text>
So what is your problem ?
Your TOPIX location exists on Fed. money to a much larger degree than does Phoenix Az.
Without Fed DoD monies along with VA money your area of Virginia would be swampy morass.
It takes balls for somebody from Norfolk/Newport News area to complain about Fed. money spent in Az.
What state has more people on the Fed. payroll combined with retired Fed. employees than Virginia ? Surely not Az. in % of population.
N. Va. is on the Fed payroll or trickle down from it. So is the Norfolk area.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#53 Sep 24, 2012
Not necessary Federal Money Spent, but Arizona, 40% of the Residents pay absolutely nothing toward the expense of America, they don't contribute a nickle in Income Taxes..... ROFLMAO

You live in Arizona, chances are you're a free loader and enjoy all that America has to offer without pitching in a dime.
xnutmegger wrote:
<quoted text>
So what is your problem ?
Your TOPIX location exists on Fed. money to a much larger degree than does Phoenix Az.
Without Fed DoD monies along with VA money your area of Virginia would be swampy morass.
It takes balls for somebody from Norfolk/Newport News area to complain about Fed. money spent in Az.
What state has more people on the Fed. payroll combined with retired Fed. employees than Virginia ? Surely not Az. in % of population.
N. Va. is on the Fed payroll or trickle down from it. So is the Norfolk area.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#54 Sep 24, 2012
You're a patriot, a believer in Freedom and Liberty....... where as a typical Republicans is all about limiting access and believers in second class citizenship.

Typically Republicans in congress are Plutocrats who wish to dismantle democracy in favor of an oligarchy.
gfys wrote:
It would be nice if all states were like yours, if they were, I would be more accepting of the restriction. In Missouri, you have to not only show your BC, SSC, and proof of residence, it will also cost you $11, just for the id, for someone that has $10 to their name, that's too much! If we want to change the voting laws, it will need to come with changes in other laws.
Unless we are saying that the homeless, and poor, don't deserve a chance to vote? I personally think they are just as American as anybody else.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#55 Sep 24, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Not necessary Federal Money Spent, but Arizona, 40% of the Residents pay absolutely nothing toward the expense of America, they don't contribute a nickle in Income Taxes..... ROFLMAO
You live in Arizona, chances are you're a free loader and enjoy all that America has to offer without pitching in a dime.
<quoted text>
I've posted many times on TOPIX that I paid 10% Fed " Income Tax" last year.

I've also posted many times that under Clinton I was in the 31% bracket and paid 15-16% while under Bush tax rates I'm in the 28% bracket and pay 9-10% Fed Income Taxes.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#56 Sep 24, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
You're a patriot, a believer in Freedom and Liberty....... where as a typical Republicans is all about limiting access and believers in second class citizenship.
Typically Republicans in congress are Plutocrats who wish to dismantle democracy in favor of an oligarchy.
<quoted text>
Caution : B.S. artist at work.

Yeah ...sure..that's why we want a smaller sized Fed. bureacracy.

The OLIGARCHY you talk about is Barak , Michelle , Valery Jarrett,Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod with influence from Bill Ayers and the Chicago political machine.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#57 Sep 24, 2012
xnutmegger wrote:
<quoted text>
Caution : B.S. artist at work.
Yeah ...sure..that's why we want a smaller sized Fed. bureacracy.
The OLIGARCHY you talk about is Barak , Michelle , Valery Jarrett,Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod with influence from Bill Ayers and the Chicago political machine.
Oligarchy is a small government.... the Republicans agenda is geared toward reducing the size and scope of Government to a size they can drown in a a baht tub.... is that correct?

So Republicans go about limiting access to the vote and spending cuts to shrink government... hopefully the GOP aim is to eliminate the protections that Citizens currently enjoy under the US Constitution..... notice how Republican legislation around the country is being thrown out by the Federal Courts as unconstitutional..... like the Arizona Immigration Law and the Texas voter id and redistricting laws....?

xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#58 Sep 24, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Oligarchy is a small government.... the Republicans agenda is geared toward reducing the size and scope of Government to a size they can drown in a a baht tub.... is that correct?
So Republicans go about limiting access to the vote and spending cuts to shrink government... hopefully the GOP aim is to eliminate the protections that Citizens currently enjoy under the US Constitution..... notice how Republican legislation around the country is being thrown out by the Federal Courts as unconstitutional..... like the Arizona Immigration Law and the Texas voter id and redistricting laws....?
An oligarchy cannot survive without 10% of the population being strongly supportive of it and taken care of , Mexico is a prime example.

It's not the GOP wanting to add 15,000 IRS agents to it's team.
23434057abc

Bradenton, FL

#59 Sep 25, 2012
Two totally anti american pigs sucking off the tax payers and hopefulls.

Michelle is a disgusting sloth. A f'n sloth low class shame.

rahm, same. Scum that is out to destroy America and play movie star slothing in comfort on OUR backs while they do so.

As Icke says, America, get off your knees. You assholes would RUSH out to vote for these degenerates? WAke the f up. And in closing, obama, you illegal street shaft, get some cosmetic surgery and have that mouthpiece removed from beneath your lower lip. What the f is that tumor? You and your f'n glamour shots. No white American girl would have SPIT on YOU just a few decades ago, you ugly street pimp. THEY HAD YOUR number, slick. Cause you know what? THEY were driving the train YOUR WIFE speaks of, LOL. Bring it up? Live with it.
carey529 wrote:
what kind of an idiot must you be to listen to either one of those racist idiots?
spud the gringo

Springfield, NJ

#61 Sep 25, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Holder is a defender of all things and values that are American.
Wake up EG. Holder defends things like the right to intimidate white voters in Philadelphia. The right for illegal aliens to vote. The right to sell weapons to the drug cartels. The right to harass Arizona for trying to secure their border. The right to prevent states from exposing illegal alien voters. The right to declare that our federal government can choose which laws it will enforce. The right of the president to legislate. I'd say this joker is easily the worst AG ever, and there have been some really poor ones lately.
Eric Gustafson

Yorktown, VA

#62 Sep 25, 2012
there has never been any evident of an illegal voting in an election and that's made up propaganda by extremist, Arizona tried to produce discriminatory laws that a direct affront to the Supreme Law of the Land as laid out in the U.S Constitution.

The Bush Attorney General refused to prosecute the Philadelphia case after their investigation and no matter how many times some of you ignorant extreme tout your version of the story, it doesn't change those facts.

Holder has stood up for and defended the written law of America handed down by our Founders.... and the Supreme Court of the United States have found his argument creditable and beyond reproach in all manners.

At every court challenge, the Republicans have been found to be in violation of the U.S Constitution in passing legislation designed to circumvent the Constitution.
spud the gringo wrote:
<quoted text>Wake up EG. Holder defends things like the right to intimidate white voters in Philadelphia. The right for illegal aliens to vote. The right to sell weapons to the drug cartels. The right to harass Arizona for trying to secure their border. The right to prevent states from exposing illegal alien voters. The right to declare that our federal government can choose which laws it will enforce. The right of the president to legislate. I'd say this joker is easily the worst AG ever, and there have been some really poor ones lately.
spud the gringo

United States

#63 Sep 26, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
there has never been any evident of an illegal voting in an election and that's made up propaganda by extremist, Arizona tried to produce discriminatory laws that a direct affront to the Supreme Law of the Land as laid out in the U.S Constitution.
The Bush Attorney General refused to prosecute the Philadelphia case after their investigation and no matter how many times some of you ignorant extreme tout your version of the story, it doesn't change those facts.
Holder has stood up for and defended the written law of America handed down by our Founders.... and the Supreme Court of the United States have found his argument creditable and beyond reproach in all manners.
At every court challenge, the Republicans have been found to be in violation of the U.S Constitution in passing legislation designed to circumvent the Constitution.
<quoted text>
One day maybe you'll be able to do your own thinking instead of chirping every Democratic talking point. You're no different than Hannity, just from the other side. By the way, if you think comparing Obama to Bush makes him look any better, you're wrong. Their main difference is Bush was a manipulated idiot with good intentions while Obama is a philosophical idiot whose ideas are anti American and will destroy this country. Our court system has very little to do with what's right and what's wrong these days. Our system has become political with judges often reflecting the views of the politician that appointed them. Ever hear of judge shopping? That term is an indication of just how corrupt our judicial system has become so I wouldn't use any courts decision for determining right or wrong. Just look at Kagen and Sotomayer and tell me they could possibly be objective.

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