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Kingsland retail destination isn't only goal of legislation backers

There are 24 comments on the SavannahNow story from Apr 8, 2010, titled Kingsland retail destination isn't only goal of legislation backers. In it, SavannahNow reports that:

Enticing a 6,000-job "retail destination" along Interstate 95 in Kingsland, Ga., isn't the only reason legislation passed through the House last month.

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friendly

United States

#1 Apr 9, 2010
If I got the math right the public will be giving back 25% of the developers cost over the 10 years of the agreement. Which means that the revenue involved would come off before we got any Splost Money from the project. The next question would be what kind of jobs would the citizens be getting out of the project? It seems to me that it is a good deal the the developer and the return to the taxpayers of Camden County remains an open question.
Old News

Kingsland, GA

#2 Apr 9, 2010
Sandy,
How much property taxes are being generated now at the proposed site of this venture??? How much will be generated and paid in full, I might add, once the bricks are laid?? You do the math. And for once get out of the way of progress.
Even friendlier

Dornsife, PA

#3 Apr 9, 2010
Old News wrote:
Sandy,
How much property taxes are being generated now at the proposed site of this venture??? How much will be generated and paid in full, I might add, once the bricks are laid?? You do the math. And for once get out of the way of progress.
"Dr. NO" Feller does not need to consider such details to say no to any and everything. It is his one-trick-pony signature move.
friendly

United States

#4 Apr 9, 2010
Old News wrote:
Sandy,
How much property taxes are being generated now at the proposed site of this venture??? How much will be generated and paid in full, I might add, once the bricks are laid?? You do the math. And for once get out of the way of progress.
With all due respect there is nothing wrong with asking questions. I see nothing wrong with being aware of all the details. I have been in business for over 40 years and I survive because I ask for details when I get into a deal. The picture always look good at the start. However, unlike others I don't jump into waters when I know the depth. A case in point the water and sewer bond issue in St. Marys, It costs 300,000.00 per month and the anticipated money for repayment is not coming in. Remember, the devil is in the details.
friendly

United States

#5 Apr 9, 2010
In so far as "even friendlier" is concerned, he head is so far up certain folks posterior he couldn't see the facts if they bit him. But then you already know that.
Trip

United States

#6 Apr 9, 2010
friendly wrote:
<quoted text>With all due respect there is nothing wrong with asking questions. I see nothing wrong with being aware of all the details. I have been in business for over 40 years and I survive because I ask for details when I get into a deal. The picture always look good at the start. However, unlike others I don't jump into waters when I know the depth. A case in point the water and sewer bond issue in St. Marys, It costs 300,000.00 per month and the anticipated money for repayment is not coming in. Remember, the devil is in the details.
Thank you Sandy. People have to look at the history of the company and then make their mind up. Red Developement has a problem managing money. But they have no problem getting the cities on the hook for loans and bonds. Debt will enhance the home owner and small bussiness flight from Camden..
Even friendlier

Dornsife, PA

#7 Apr 10, 2010
friendly wrote:
In so far as "even friendlier" is concerned, he head is so far up certain folks posterior he couldn't see the facts if they bit him. But then you already know that.
In case you are not familiar with who "certain folks" are in Mr. Feller's sick mind, let me enlighten you.

His story is that he was run out of up-state New York by high taxes and he'll just be damned if he will let those some "certain folks" run him out of St. Marys. Those "certain folks" comprise anyone who has more money than Mr. Feller (or at least more money than Mr. Feller goes to great lenghts to make you think he has, when in fact, he's loaded). Locally, he uses the residents of Osprey Cove as a handy symbol of the "certain folks" the old consummate vote whore hopes to stir up the class envcious masses against in his pursuit of political office to thwart the plans of the evil "certain folks."

With regard to Mr. Moreno, or any other opponent, he would have you believe that they are all in the pocket of the evil "certain folks."

With respects to Mr. Moreno, this would be particularly laughable, were it not such a serious symptom of Mr. Feller's underlying mental illness. The implication of Mr. Feller's latest crudity is that Mr. Moreno is, in some way, apt to reap some sort of financial gain from "certain folks" if elected to office, ostensibly to suport their evil designs upon the wallets of the common folks per se, and Mr. Feller in particular.

The mechanism for how that would work is a bit of a mstery. Mr. Moreno does not travel in the social circles of any of the "certain folks." He owns no business. He is not even currently employed. His stated desire for future employment is as a school teacher- a profession for which he is duly trained and licensed by the state. Short of cash in a manilla envelope, how would "certain folks" funnel those future illicit gains to Mr. Moreno?

So, once again, we see clear proof that Sanford Feller, the consummate vote whore, will say or do anything to further his goal of returning to his role of "Dr. No" on the county commission in the furtherance of his own paranoia-driven efforts to delay any economic progress of any kind in Camden until after his death.
Marion

Inola, OK

#8 Apr 10, 2010
Even friendlier wrote:
<quoted text>
"Dr. NO" Feller does not need to consider such details to say no to any and everything. It is his one-trick-pony signature move.
I can remember when Jay was Sandy's "Hey Boy"
Marion

Inola, OK

#9 Apr 10, 2010
Even friendlier wrote:
<quoted text>
In case you are not familiar with who "certain folks" are in Mr. Feller's sick mind, let me enlighten you.
His story is that he was run out of up-state New York by high taxes and he'll just be damned if he will let those some "certain folks" run him out of St. Marys. Those "certain folks" comprise anyone who has more money than Mr. Feller (or at least more money than Mr. Feller goes to great lenghts to make you think he has, when in fact, he's loaded). Locally, he uses the residents of Osprey Cove as a handy symbol of the "certain folks" the old consummate vote whore hopes to stir up the class envcious masses against in his pursuit of political office to thwart the plans of the evil "certain folks."
With regard to Mr. Moreno, or any other opponent, he would have you believe that they are all in the pocket of the evil "certain folks."
With respects to Mr. Moreno, this would be particularly laughable, were it not such a serious symptom of Mr. Feller's underlying mental illness. The implication of Mr. Feller's latest crudity is that Mr. Moreno is, in some way, apt to reap some sort of financial gain from "certain folks" if elected to office, ostensibly to suport their evil designs upon the wallets of the common folks per se, and Mr. Feller in particular.
The mechanism for how that would work is a bit of a mstery. Mr. Moreno does not travel in the social circles of any of the "certain folks." He owns no business. He is not even currently employed. His stated desire for future employment is as a school teacher- a profession for which he is duly trained and licensed by the state. Short of cash in a manilla envelope, how would "certain folks" funnel those future illicit gains to Mr. Moreno?
So, once again, we see clear proof that Sanford Feller, the consummate vote whore, will say or do anything to further his goal of returning to his role of "Dr. No" on the county commission in the furtherance of his own paranoia-driven efforts to delay any economic progress of any kind in Camden until after his death.
So there was no correlation between the election any your closing on your house.
Marion

Inola, OK

#10 Apr 10, 2010
Marion wrote:
<quoted text>
I can remember when Jay was Sandy's "Hey Boy"
Or was it "Hop Sing"?
Even friendlier

Dornsife, PA

#11 Apr 10, 2010
Marion wrote:
<quoted text>So there was no correlation between the election any your closing on your house.
I can only assume that the world-class ass from Kingsland, Mr. Marion Wall, is implying that Mr. Moreno got some financial assistance in buying his house back in 2008.

In a manner of speaking, he did. But is was from his former employer's Worker's Comp carrier, in the form of a cash settlement, not from Mr. Feller's dreaded cabal of wealthy Camden conspirators.
Jeff

North Anson, ME

#13 Apr 10, 2010
Jay, can't you ever find new words or phrases. "Consummate vote whore", "Brandon regime"...it's like reading the same old drivel over and over again. At least buy a thesaurus.
"Mr Feller's underlying mental illness", huh? Pot, meet kettle. Sandy's the picture of mental health compared to you (but then so's a rabid dog).
friendly

United States

#14 Apr 10, 2010
Jeff wrote:
Jay, can't you ever find new words or phrases. "Consummate vote whore", "Brandon regime"...it's like reading the same old drivel over and over again. At least buy a thesaurus.
"Mr Feller's underlying mental illness", huh? Pot, meet kettle. Sandy's the picture of mental health compared to you (but then so's a rabid dog).
Thank you, I think?
Even friendlier

Dornsife, PA

#15 Apr 10, 2010
At least you can put down a rabid dog: with a rabidly paronoic old congenital nay sayer, you just have to wait.
anon

North Anson, ME

#16 Apr 10, 2010
Even friendlier wrote:
At least you can put down a rabid dog: with a rabidly paronoic old congenital nay sayer, you just have to wait.
We're willing to wait until you leave, Jay. Please make it soon.
Marion

Inola, OK

#17 Apr 10, 2010
Even friendlier wrote:
<quoted text>
I can only assume that the world-class ass from Kingsland, Mr. Marion Wall, is implying that Mr. Moreno got some financial assistance in buying his house back in 2008.
In a manner of speaking, he did. But is was from his former employer's Worker's Comp carrier, in the form of a cash settlement, not from Mr. Feller's dreaded cabal of wealthy Camden conspirators.
Well since you are infinitely knowledgeable about Mr. Moreno, how about telling the readers what he meant when he posted what he would like to do with my head last year, shortly before the election.
Response

Saint Simons Island, GA

#18 Apr 10, 2010
friendly wrote:
If I got the math right the public will be giving back 25% of the developers cost over the 10 years of the agreement. Which means that the revenue involved would come off before we got any Splost Money from the project. The next question would be what kind of jobs would the citizens be getting out of the project? It seems to me that it is a good deal the the developer and the return to the taxpayers of Camden County remains an open question.
Very good questions....

If only the elected would've held a town hall meeting in advance of presenting this legislation.

Senator Jeff Chapman said it best about State Representative Hill earlier in the week. She feels it necessary to do WHATEVER for her wealthy constituents, no matter what additional burden it will cause on the least of thee.
Even friendlier

Dornsife, PA

#19 Apr 11, 2010
Marion wrote:
<quoted text>Well since you are infinitely knowledgeable about Mr. Moreno, how about telling the readers what he meant when he posted what he would like to do with my head last year, shortly before the election.
Beats me, but why don't you quit alluding to it and spit it out?
It that your mind would clearly not be a terrible thing to waste, who cares?

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#20 Apr 11, 2010
Response wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good questions....
If only the elected would've held a town hall meeting in advance of presenting this legislation.
Senator Jeff Chapman said it best about State Representative Hill earlier in the week. She feels it necessary to do WHATEVER for her wealthy constituents, no matter what additional burden it will cause on the least of thee.
someone needs to check these two(chapman and hill)will break it off in the taxpayers in a NY. miniute
Kim

Inola, OK

#21 Apr 11, 2010
You may have your sea going reasons for disliking Chapman. He did get the county homeowners a property tax freeze. He tried to do the same for the cities but the mayors got in the picture. Did those 3 break it of in us? Yeppers.

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