Obama's education law overhaul to foc...

Obama's education law overhaul to focus on college

There are 60 comments on the The Topeka Capital-Journal story from Mar 13, 2010, titled Obama's education law overhaul to focus on college. In it, The Topeka Capital-Journal reports that:

The Obama administration unveiled its plan Saturday to radically change his predecessor's No Child Left Behind law in hopes of replacing an accountability system that in the last decade has tagged more than a third of schools as failing and created a hodgepodge of sometimes weak academic standards among states.

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progressive

Lamoni, IA

#42 Mar 14, 2010
akaSUITOR wrote:
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i APPLAUD YIOUR ENTHUSIASM pAT. bUT WE ARE NOT YET TO GET OUR NOSE ABOVE THE WATER LINE.
mEAN WHILE cHINA IS STILL BUYING THE RITHS TO THE WORLDS OIL RESERVES.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TMGSHI2...
I complain about his uncritical enthusiasm as being suspect, or over the top naive. I agree we are not above the water line. the so-called measures to help slow foreclosures are not working well enough. Not enough teeth in dealing with the crooked big bankers. I think a firing squad drill or two, maybe with Gramm and Greenspan lined up and ready to put on blindfolds, might motivate some of them. I'd let them off if they promised to confess to all their sins and crimes and manipulations. sort of a truth and reconciliation commission, as was given to the white racist leadership in s. Africa, or the murderers of democracy and human beings in Chile, to so-called heal the society. Gramm is an economic equivalent of Pinochet I think, a destroyer of the financial and economic system, by blocking investigations of the fancy hidden trading - aided and abetted by Greenspan, who had the power to investigate and regulate, and failed deliberately because of his ideology, to do his job. Interesting about China. did you see 60 minutes tonight. Michael Lewis, a book coming out about the insiders causing the scandal, and those who caught on and chose to profit from their good guess, instead of warning
Congress that disaster was coming. Inside the collapse is a subtitle of some of his books. It was a long collapse. I think one title was the Big Short. He and 60 minutes discussed the credit default swaps, derivatives, rating agency lies, executive bonuses, and hedge fund profits tonight. Quite a program. Steve Kroft. Hope you can find it online. I recommend Frontline A Warning, and Card Game, on line. and also McClatchy Jan 3020 articles on goldman sachs and moodys. Big crooks and still totally uncorrected! even some of the crooks that brought us down put into the job of cleaning up. they are cleaning up all right!
progressive

Lamoni, IA

#43 Mar 14, 2010
akaSUITOR wrote:
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I hope Obamas agendas work. Because if they do not, we are literally breathing our last breaths.
Because when something this big falls, it is a very terrible smothering death. And if America does not fall, then it's because America was "removed" from the equation.
Either way, a terrible end for something that was once so majestic.
I would really like to know what you mean by agendas, and this big, and fall, etc. especially removed and terrible end and once so majestic. a fascinating comment, and I wonder to what extent I agree with you. Do you wish to clarify? do you include green energy, first class education, health care reform, financial regulatory reform, economic recovery, prevention of disasters from climate change, foreign policy changes to prevent major wars or terrorist acts with stolen nuclear materials, etc - as the agendas. No wonder he thought he needed Hillary, Holbrooke, and Biden. to span the gap between that idealism and the realistic and/or conventional foreign policy establishment so-called realist view I wanted him to have Leach and Hagel as foreign policy advisers. laHood and McHugh and Gates are poor substitutes. He insulted Hagel by offering him an ambassadorship somewhere far away. Hagel should be a close adviser, able to counteract the iffy influence of Holbrooke and Hillary, and Biden even, when he gets too carried away with friendliness toward the iffy leaders in Georgia and the Israeli parliament. At least Biden reversed course entirely after the snub, and was two hours late for a big dinner with Netanyahu. guess that fixed him! I say cut foreign aid to Israel by half every day that Netanyahu does not reverse his nasty imperialist policies. Sort of like the Harkin plan on cutting the vote needed for a cloture, as time goes by.
progressive

Lamoni, IA

#44 Mar 14, 2010
have we met before? I am so curious as to the mystery of all you were implying. was I anywhere close to the point you were making? If so, I dread considering the second part, where one gets specific about what happens if it does not work. I am worried about that too, most of all - the failure to have green energy worldwide, with no wasted side trips into big nuclear wasteful investments or cray loan or insurance guarantees (talk about naked credit default swaps!- naked nuclear contamination would be even worse!)/
progressive

Lamoni, IA

#45 Mar 14, 2010
I am hopeful that Lugar is on board on the controlling loose nukes issue, and worrying over the nuclear materials in former Soviet Union. He has a long-term relationship with Biden on that, and can be counted on to take it seriously. The only Republican with brains and caring enough to get it, I fear - except for the Maine ladies - in the Senate at least. I think Walter Jones has the biggest most openly shown caring bleeding heart I've ever seen in the House. I like him, religiousity and over-the-top emoting and all. It was gutsy of him to speak on behalf of the Kucinich amendment. I love it when Ron Paul and Kucinich are on the same side. I regard it is possible that they are part-way, at least, to being correct, and do not mind if they only get 55 votes, when they forced a debate, and gave a list of those who love peace and are doubtful that the realists are realistic at all, but are more like hardheaded neo-cons than they wish to admit. I refer to Holbrooke and hillary and Afghanistan-Pakistan war and nation-building and land-holding. I was so admiring of Patrick Kennedy for letting go and daring to be passionate. enjoyed Filmer for really putting it to those who say they are for the troops, when they are for getting them killed and horridly injured, in an iffy adventure, with iffy tactics, as Kennedy wisely discussed, though it took an effort to keep a cool rational analysis along with one's emotional reaction to his swan song, maybe. Nadler was his usual sensible self. Berman was less objectionable than I expected, referring to the time limit, and limited objectives. But Ike Skelton sounded like a Democrat from the mid l960's supporting LBJ escalation in Vietnam. It might still be available on cspan online, since it was rebroadcast for an hour of the debate, anyway.
progressive

Lamoni, IA

#46 Mar 14, 2010
really glad to meet akaSuiter and curious whether the name implies a previous name of a former friend under another name. If so, please say so, even if you do not wish to give your former name, in case you have imposter or stalker problems. I changed mine, for good reasons, defensive ones and clarification ones. though the liars like to distort the meaning of progressive, I mean it in the larger midwestern heritage sense. older wiser folks understand that. liars will always distort our views, to serve their right-wing purposes.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#47 Mar 14, 2010
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Brilliance on display: President Obama understands that you don’t punish a school for falling short of unrealistic goals; instead you reward schools that meet certain expectations. Here in Florida Jeb Bush put into law that a school which receives an “F”(a failing grade based on a test (FCAT) that his younger brother Neil created) two years in a row, then that school would be shut down and the children that were in that school would be sent to other schools in that district.
So you overwhelm other schools as you punish the kids by forcing them to other areas. That’s just stupid; and it was a republican idea (another failed policy from the right).
President Obama is doing a great job of correcting all the failed policies of Bush and his right-wing cohorts. This is great news for America. God bless President Barack Obama.
An obvious product of a liberal public education.... brainwashed from birth. Hitler would be proud of you, were he still alive.

“There's one for ya!”

Since: Oct 08

here, now

#48 Mar 14, 2010
If you have children, it would be wise to hide them from the public deaducation system.

I recently wrote Socialist Insecurity (which I haven't paid into in years) to cancel my number, since I don't use it, and don't expect any "benefits". I also told them I am not responsible for any fraudulent use of my System Number by identity thieves.

Not that I care if my identity is "stolen" because I also do not participate in the System's credit sham.

“If it ain't broke don't fix it”

Since: Jul 09

Arcadia, LA.

#49 Mar 15, 2010
I happen to agree with Obama on this. No Child Left Behind was a terrible program. Childhood education is not only the responsibility of schools. It is the responsibility of parents as well. Parents not living up to their end of that responsibility are going to have children that will not succeed in school and punishing schools for the failure of the parents makes no sense.
Not in my Neighborhood

Newport News, VA

#50 Mar 15, 2010
PooPoo Platter wrote:
Is this really so hard?
'Ol PooPoo went to school a while ago. I took math, science, English, history, geography, spelling, art, music, gym, everything. Even a civics class in 8th grade where we studied the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and how FDR made it all work in more recent times.
The nuns taught 'ol PooPoo well. I learned all I was presented with, and they only broke a ruler or two when I became unruly! It wasn't an elite school, but it cranked out many fine, educated, solid citizens (as well as me...)
Teach the kids how to read, write, do math & science, how to work computers, how to reason & make good decisions. Parents, put in the time and raise them well.
And everybody in the village, play your part in raising the child.
Your village left you....The Village Idiot behind.
TedsLiver

United States

#51 Mar 15, 2010
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Brilliance on display: President Obama understands that you don’t punish a school for falling short of unrealistic goals; instead you reward schools that meet certain expectations. Here in Florida Jeb Bush put into law that a school which receives an “F”(a failing grade based on a test (FCAT) that his younger brother Neil created) two years in a row, then that school would be shut down and the children that were in that school would be sent to other schools in that district.
So you overwhelm other schools as you punish the kids by forcing them to other areas. That’s just stupid; and it was a republican idea (another failed policy from the right).
President Obama is doing a great job of correcting all the failed policies of Bush and his right-wing cohorts. This is great news for America. God bless President Barack Obama.
Pat, you swallow way too much Obama DNA material.
Tony

Bradenton, FL

#52 Mar 15, 2010
This "overhaul" doesn't focus on college or education.......

It's focus is on buying votes for obama's healthcare bill.......

that's why this education BS is stuck in a friggin healthcare bill......

no other reason than to buy some votes......

It's amazing to believe that dim-o-crats have become so blinded as to believe that they will not be screwed right along with the rest of the country.
TedsLiver

United States

#53 Mar 15, 2010
Joe wrote:
It's not the schools fault, it never was. It's the fault of the non existant parenting going on in the homes of the students in these failing schools. And no amount of money is ever going to change that.
True, we see this everyday in California with all the illegals in the schools!
TedsLiver

United States

#54 Mar 15, 2010
Not in my Neighborhood wrote:
<quoted text>Your village left you....The Village Idiot behind.
No the Village Idiot is in the Whitehouse.

Since: Nov 09

Skärholmen, Sweden

#55 Mar 15, 2010
Schools are not the problem, a hodgepodge is the problem
Not in my Neighborhood

Newport News, VA

#57 Mar 15, 2010
TedsLiver wrote:
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No the Village Idiot is in the Whitehouse.
LOL...yea he went from Village to "National Idiot"

“AVAUNCEZ!!”

Since: Aug 07

Eldora Iowa

#58 Mar 15, 2010
the feds have no constitutional right to diddle with healthcare and should just stay out of it. We don't need a fed DHS

You are so right on this Coolmind, and here I thought we would disagree forever.
Coolmind wrote:
The feds have no constitutional right to diddle with education and should stay out of it.
This part of "big Gov't" should go away. We don't need a fed D.O.E.
Deo Vindice

Sacramento, CA

#59 Mar 16, 2010
Good thing he cannot touch private schools and private colleges/universities.

The Left wingers hae been brainwashing public school kids since the Carter Administration.
The children are forcefully medicated with a variety of psych drugs.

The Left wingers have re-written history books.
The Left wingers are giving homosexuality top priority.("They need to be exposed, and encouraged to assimilate into this lifestyle").

Black welfare moms have given their children African names. Hardly any of these kids are capable of spelling their names.
george barnett

United States

#60 Mar 16, 2010
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
Brilliance on display: President Obama understands that you don’t punish a school for falling short of unrealistic goals; instead you reward schools that meet certain expectations. Here in Florida Jeb Bush put into law that a school which receives an “F”(a failing grade based on a test (FCAT) that his younger brother Neil created) two years in a row, then that school would be shut down and the children that were in that school would be sent to other schools in that district.
So you overwhelm other schools as you punish the kids by forcing them to other areas. That’s just stupid; and it was a republican idea (another failed policy from the right).
President Obama is doing a great job of correcting all the failed policies of Bush and his right-wing cohorts. This is great news for America. God bless President Barack Obama.
More brilliance on display-----Obama has sicced the federal antidiscrimination poleeese on public schools that statistically suspend or discipline students at rates that don't correspond to their race based enrollment.Here in Charlotte,Black students are currently suspended almost 8 times more frequently than Whites.This may be due to prejudice.It might also be due to that the fact that the Section 8 Black baby mamas don't know shite about raising "chirren".Since neither the schools nor society at large can fix that problem;the only feasable solution is to encourage disruptive or criminal behavior among the White students.

“There's one for ya!”

Since: Oct 08

here, now

#62 Mar 18, 2010
george barnett wrote:
<quoted text>More brilliance on display-----Obama has sicced the federal antidiscrimination poleeese on public schools that statistically suspend or discipline students at rates that don't correspond to their race based enrollment.Here in Charlotte,Black students are currently suspended almost 8 times more frequently than Whites.This may be due to prejudice.It might also be due to that the fact that the Section 8 Black baby mamas don't know shite about raising "chirren".Since neither the schools nor society at large can fix that problem;the only feasable solution is to encourage disruptive or criminal behavior among the White students.
Another example of number-crunching running afoul of reality.
george barnett

United States

#63 Mar 23, 2010
Heatherfeather wrote:
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Another example of number-crunching running afoul of reality.
My best friend,call him Bill,is retired military and teaches at the high school level in Charlotte.The 2 parent Black students do ok;some excel.The Section 8,single baby mama offspring are remarkably resistant to instruction.They can not be educated.This is primarily due to belligerance and lazyness.He recommends just giving them a diploma and an "I done knows all dey is to know T-shirt".They are superbly qualified for either a life of crime or welfare.

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