GOP ignores immigration reform

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Lee Az

Mesa, AZ

#1 Mar 13, 2011
is it about keeping your seat or doing what is right for this country, in 2012 we will see if
you decide your seat is protected by any form of
amnesty for illegals to gain their vote then
Americans will vote you out

Lee AZ
Veteran
Trucking business owner

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Mar 13, 2011
It makes perfect sence for GOP

Those are US companies who prefer foreign labor and because they cannot afford it here due to immigration laws, the US companies moved all to Mexico and china and now we all se the result : NO jobs no taxes are collected from business that are not here :

Mexico was the United States' 3rd largest supplier of goods imports in 2009.

U.S. goods imports from Mexico totaled $176.5 billion in 2009, down 18.2%($39.4 billion) from 2008, but up 257% over the last 15 years. It is up 342% since 1993 (Pre-NAFTA). U.S. imports from Mexico accounted for 11.3% of overall U.S. imports in 2009, up from 7% in 1994.

The five largest import categories in 2009 were: Electrical Machinery ($46.0 billion), Vehicles (cars and parts)($26.8 billion), Mineral Fuel and Oil (crude)($25.2 billion), Machinery ($22.1 billion), and Optic and Medical Instruments ($7.3 billion).

U.S. imports of agricultural products from Mexico totaled $11.4 billion in 2009, the 2nd largest U.S. supplier. Leading categories include: fresh vegetables ($2.8 billion), fresh fruit (excluding bananas)($1.9 billion), wine and beer ($1.5 billion), and snack foods (including chocolate)($1.0 billion).

U.S. imports of private commercial services*(i.e., excluding military and government) from Mexico were $15.8 billion in 2008 (latest data available), up 2.7%($415 million) from 2007, and up 100% from 1994 levels. Travel accounted for most of U.S. services imports from Mexico in 2008. 
The New England

Kelseyville, CA

#5 Mar 13, 2011
The United States is going to be like the mother country England.
It will have a nice facade but no backbone because it has been comprimised away.
Through bad trade agreements and greed.
You can start with Wal Mart and ask how much of there inventory is American Made.
A country like China produces in example five engineers to are one.
wether you like it or not America will not have the ways and means to maintain it's position in the World.
NutCracker

United States

#6 Mar 13, 2011
The GOP & the Tea "Baggers" Party are so obsessed with Aliens that in this whole argument process, before they know it, they would've alienated themselves. To believe we do not need the, so called, illegals or their workforce is retarted. Ask anyone with some sense of economics and he will tell you, displacing multitudes of people from society or a workforce will effect our economy very badly.
ProudNativist

United States

#8 Mar 14, 2011
NutCracker wrote:
The GOP & the Tea "Baggers" Party are so obsessed with Aliens that in this whole argument process, before they know it, they would've alienated themselves. To believe we do not need the, so called, illegals or their workforce is retarted. Ask anyone with some sense of economics and he will tell you, displacing multitudes of people from society or a workforce will effect our economy very badly.
You can alway tell when a poster somehow profits from illegal immigration. The GOP and the Tea Party managed to route the marxist communist amnesty supporting latino ass kissing demoratic party WITHOUT the latino vote. So now the GOP and the Tea Party better start kissing latino ass if they know whats good for them?
Fact check

Danville, VA

#9 Mar 14, 2011
NutCracker wrote:
The GOP & the Tea "Baggers" Party are so obsessed with Aliens that in this whole argument process, before they know it, they would've alienated themselves. To believe we do not need the, so called, illegals or their workforce is retarted. Ask anyone with some sense of economics and he will tell you, displacing multitudes of people from society or a workforce will effect our economy very badly.
On December 3, Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs, Nelson Peacock, responding to request from several U.S. Senators, including Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), wrote:“Our conservative estimate suggests that ICE would require a budget of more than $135 billion to apprehend, detain and remove the nation’s entire illegal immigrant population.”

In July 2010, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) released the results of a study which examined the costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local levels. The study found that U.S. state and local governments shell out $84.2 billion annually in various services (law enforcement, schools, social services, etc.), with California taxpayers alone, spending $21 billion on illegal aliens every year.

The same study found that $29 billion is spent every year in federal funds on illegal aliens.

So, while it would cost a one-time fee of about $135 billion to deport every single illegal alien in the country, it is actually a bargain considering the fact that it already costs us $113 billion annually to keep them here.

In other words, the mass deportation would pay for itself in a little over a year.

Incidentally, in 2007, the DHS estimated the cost of deporting all illegal aliens to be approximately $94 billion.
Huh

Clearlake, CA

#10 Mar 14, 2011
Do you really want to know which political party benefits the most from NO immigration reform?

The democrats garner most of the latino vote.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1790/2010-midterm...
ProudNativist

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Mar 17, 2011
By the way, the GOP, because of the Tea Party, is not ignoring immigration reform. It's just that the Tea Party's idea of immigration reform essentiall amounts to actually enforcing existing immigration laws instead of giving amnesty to a bunch of unwanted uninvited illegal mexihole future demoratic voters if amnestied.
cjrian

United States

#16 Mar 20, 2011
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
Taken and edited post from Alejandro 
Thanks Alejandro for the good job keep it up ! Keep posting
 Just think of this facts :
- How many immigrants work for you in each moment during the day (restaurants, hotels, lunch, clean all places, agriculture, construction, meat processing ...)
Irrelevant.
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
- Few thousand dollars a year go unclaimed in the IRS and the Social Security office. That money is what helping us and may have your pension in 20 years, or help the thousands of disabled people who can not make money because they can not work. Is free money because the Illegal immigrants don't want received this money.
Irrelevant.
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
- The 70% of work force with low salaries (7-10 dollars) without benefits is immigrants. Can you support a family complete with this small check? The immigrant can do that.
Irrelevant. Many American also support themselves on those wages, and more would do so if they weren't on the dole.
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
- Ask your kids or any child of a school, if he cares or knows of any illegal student in his class. The new generation of Americans understands that diversity is also, to respect others by not having to pay thousands of dollars in legal documents for legal entry into the U.S. embassies.
Irrelevant. A) every other LEGAL immigrant goes through this process. B) It doesn't cost $thousands. Costs range from free to $720 (for employment related emmigration). And it's still less than the $3,000 -$5,000 that borders wolves charge. C) Diversity includes Nationality, Race, and Gender - not Legal Status.
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
- Did you know that some northern states, illegal immigrants arent Latinos, are Canadians
Irrelevant. Canadians and other Nationalities are a each small minority of illegals. Mexicans make up 56% of the illegals. If your rowboat is leaking, do you fix the hundred small holes first? Or fix the giant hole?
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
- Did you know that most soldiers in Vietnam and received medals of honor were heroes are Immigrants
Irrelevant - Immigrants? Yes, they are. But LEGAL.
spud

United States

#17 Mar 21, 2011
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
The GOP needs the things to stay exactly as they are now without any change :
Sweat shop factories abroad and higher profits for their owners supporting the GOP
We don't see the made in USA tag anymore? Thanks GOP
You have seen this not only in walmart but why ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =g2pZzW-Hn-EXX&feature=Pla yList&p=19B5A619CE26C5A4 &playnext=1&playnext_f rom=PL&index=55
What's the big deal ?
Half of the america's biggest retailer inventory is hecho in Mexico the other half made in china , soon will be only hecho in Mexico after china stop buying our worthless the paper bonds, japan is planning to sell the USA bonds , but who if nobody is willing to buy them, see the picture what will happen ?
North American union will be between USA Canada and Mexico after our currency collapse , talks between BRIC countries brazil russia India and china for a new world currency
Google it
But that is the richest 5 billioners family in USA choice :
http://www.youtube.com/watch ... 
Prepare for the northamerican union USA Mexico Canada 
Google it
Those are US companies who prefer foreign labor and because they cannot afford it here due to immigration laws, the US companies moved all to Mexico and now we all se the result : NO taxes are collected and American jobs are available from business that are not here :
Mexico was the United States' 3rd largest supplier of goods imports in 2009.
U.S. goods imports from Mexico totaled $176.5 billion in 2009, down 18.2%($39.4 billion) from 2008, but up 257% over the last 15 years. It is up 342% since 1993 (Pre-NAFTA). U.S. imports from Mexico accounted for 11.3% of overall U.S. imports in 2009, up from 7% in 1994.
The five largest import categories in 2009 were: Electrical Machinery ($46.0 billion), Vehicles (cars and parts)($26.8 billion), Mineral Fuel and Oil (crude)($25.2 billion), Machinery ($22.1 billion), and Optic and Medical Instruments ($7.3 billion).
U.S. imports of agricultural products from Mexico totaled $11.4 billion in 2009, the 2nd largest U.S. supplier. Leading categories include: fresh vegetables ($2.8 billion), fresh fruit (excluding bananas)($1.9 billion), wine and beer ($1.5 billion), and snack foods (including chocolate)($1.0 billion).
U.S. imports of private commercial services*(i.e., excluding military and government) from Mexico were $15.8 billion in 2008 (latest data available), up 2.7%($415 million) from 2007, and up 100% from 1994 levels. Travel accounted for most of U.S. services imports from Mexico in 2008. 
Forget to mention it 
The richest in US the 5 samuel walton family members which are on of the big GOP supporters 
Free market baby
Why don't you open your eyes and see things the way they are? Republicans always pushed for free trade, but it was Clinton that signed it and opened the floodgates of free trade on this country. On the other hand, it is the Democrats who want to flood this country with illegal aliens but neocons like Bush and McCain stupidly wanted the same thing. Free trade is the brainchild of greedy Republicans and open borders is the idea of America hating Democrats. Both policies suck. But it took a Democrat president, Clinton, to get free trade through and it's going to take alot of Republican help to pass an amnesty. Look at the Republican party and see how many amnesty favoring candidates are lining up for the next election. We shouldn't vote for any candidate that's for amnesty. We need an outsider right now. As a matter of fact, we need all outsiders.
racer42

Hayward, CA

#20 Mar 21, 2011
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
<quoted text>
Google it :
The future is in the north American union between Canada USA Mexico and this will happen when the dollar loose it value, and the chinese don't want to work for us anymore ? So than who will fill walmart target and so on ? There was no US producing factories here from a few decades, but have been exchanged with shopping malls full with sweat shop garbage factories in Vietnam which could be easily here with the illegals we have and they will be one day...
The French and Germans didn't think they wil live together in union , but happen for economical reasons so prepare we are next ! Even so politicians mention it between the news but you dummies pay more attention to stupid ball games ! Nafta was the beginning of the north American union ! BRIC countries brazil russia India china are looking for new currencies not trusting the dollar ! Google it !
Those are US companies who prefer foreign labor and because they cannot afford it here due to immigration laws, the US companies moved all to Mexico and now we all se the result : NO taxes are collected and American jobs are available from business that are not here :
Mexico was the United States' 3rd largest supplier of goods imports in 2009.
U.S. goods imports from Mexico totaled $176.5 billion in 2009, down 18.2%($39.4 billion) from 2008, but up 257% over the last 15 years. It is up 342% since 1993 (Pre-NAFTA). U.S. imports from Mexico accounted for 11.3% of overall U.S. imports in 2009, up from 7% in 1994.
The five largest import categories in 2009 were: Electrical Machinery ($46.0 billion), Vehicles (cars and parts)($26.8 billion), Mineral Fuel and Oil (crude)($25.2 billion), Machinery ($22.1 billion), and Optic and Medical Instruments ($7.3 billion).
U.S. imports of agricultural products from Mexico totaled $11.4 billion in 2009, the 2nd largest U.S. supplier. Leading categories include: fresh vegetables ($2.8 billion), fresh fruit (excluding bananas)($1.9 billion), wine and beer ($1.5 billion), and snack foods (including chocolate)($1.0 billion).
U.S. imports of private commercial services*(i.e., excluding military and government) from Mexico were $15.8 billion in 2008 (latest data available), up 2.7%($415 million) from 2007, and up 100% from 1994 levels. Travel accounted for most of U.S. services imports from Mexico in 2008. 
Don't you have a trucking company to run or some long hauls to deliver. Then get to it and stop spamming every forum on Topix. You're nothing but a brain dead troll spewing the same thing (that you've obviously copied from somewhere else) all over Topix. Have you ever had an original thought. No, I didn't think so.

TROLL, TROLL, TROLL, TROLL, TROLL, TROLL, TROLL!!!!
spud

United States

#21 Mar 22, 2011
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
<quoted text>
Google it :
The future is in the north American union between Canada USA Mexico and this will happen when the dollar loose it value, and the chinese don't want to work for us anymore ? So than who will fill walmart target and so on ? There was no US producing factories here from a few decades, but have been exchanged with shopping malls full with sweat shop garbage factories in Vietnam which could be easily here with the illegals we have and they will be one day...
The French and Germans didn't think they wil live together in union , but happen for economical reasons so prepare we are next ! Even so politicians mention it between the news but you dummies pay more attention to stupid ball games ! Nafta was the beginning of the north American union ! BRIC countries brazil russia India china are looking for new currencies not trusting the dollar ! Google it !
Those are US companies who prefer foreign labor and because they cannot afford it here due to immigration laws, the US companies moved all to Mexico and now we all se the result : NO taxes are collected and American jobs are available from business that are not here :
Mexico was the United States' 3rd largest supplier of goods imports in 2009.
U.S. goods imports from Mexico totaled $176.5 billion in 2009, down 18.2%($39.4 billion) from 2008, but up 257% over the last 15 years. It is up 342% since 1993 (Pre-NAFTA). U.S. imports from Mexico accounted for 11.3% of overall U.S. imports in 2009, up from 7% in 1994.
The five largest import categories in 2009 were: Electrical Machinery ($46.0 billion), Vehicles (cars and parts)($26.8 billion), Mineral Fuel and Oil (crude)($25.2 billion), Machinery ($22.1 billion), and Optic and Medical Instruments ($7.3 billion).
U.S. imports of agricultural products from Mexico totaled $11.4 billion in 2009, the 2nd largest U.S. supplier. Leading categories include: fresh vegetables ($2.8 billion), fresh fruit (excluding bananas)($1.9 billion), wine and beer ($1.5 billion), and snack foods (including chocolate)($1.0 billion).
U.S. imports of private commercial services*(i.e., excluding military and government) from Mexico were $15.8 billion in 2008 (latest data available), up 2.7%($415 million) from 2007, and up 100% from 1994 levels. Travel accounted for most of U.S. services imports from Mexico in 2008. 
Google this. The US doesn't need free trade or open borders or an illegal alien amnesty.
ifigofdjdltieusy fkeh

United States

#26 Mar 22, 2011
racer42

Hayward, CA

#27 Mar 22, 2011
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
<quoted text>
I already told you working from home
and that this posts are not for your kind helpless brainless uneducated poor underemployed old generation almost gone dummies !
Loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser loser
By the way I know a lot of languages my English isn't perfect what the heck is troll ?
Someone who lies about who and what he or she is and then spams message boards in the hope he/she can get responses because nobody will talk the he/she in real life. that's a troll

For your information, I have a college degree in electronics engineering and spent 30+ years in the leading edge technology here in Silicon Valley. I'll match my intellect up against yours any day, child.

It's not so much the content of your posts but that they are not your original thought and because your find it necessary to spam virtually every forum here with them. You're not making any friends and all you're doing is pissing people off with your spam.
They call me Rico

Los Angeles, CA

#30 Mar 22, 2011
Lee Az wrote:
is it about keeping your seat or doing what is right for this country, in 2012 we will see if
you decide your seat is protected by any form of
amnesty for illegals to gain their vote then
Americans will vote you out
Lee AZ
Veteran
Sorry homeboy, both Republicans & Democrats in Congress have demonstrated a level of detachment from the American people and are savvy enough to politick their way into keeping their seats.

If you think that voting in Republicans and voting out Democrats is the solution then the 2010 November elections is empirical evidence that in doing so only ensures that Congress plays the same old tune.

I almost want to say that a politician may mean all that they say on election day but once they're elected the 'powerful special interest' poisons them!
racer42

Hayward, CA

#31 Mar 22, 2011
Iflgofdjdltieusyfkeh wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot match American education with foreign education at any time , American students are more than tenth place or higher in charts in any science worldwide ! We have the best scientist because we pay the most in the world ! You can see that in the sillicon valley how many are Indians chinesee ...Ooo my bad we are 29th in the world much worse I even immagined
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1205/p02s01-usg...
Racer I got loads to book
Don't comment about me but about what I say ! You don't know sh!t about economics
Got to go
When I got my education, the US was much, much higher on the list. That was before all the illegals invaded and were allowed to get their grade school education here so we had to dumb down all the schools to accommodate them.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#32 Mar 22, 2011
They call me Rico wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry homeboy, both Republicans & Democrats in Congress have demonstrated a level of detachment from the American people and are savvy enough to politick their way into keeping their seats.
If you think that voting in Republicans and voting out Democrats is the solution then the 2010 November elections is empirical evidence that in doing so only ensures that Congress plays the same old tune.
I almost want to say that a politician may mean all that they say on election day but once they're elected the 'powerful special interest' poisons them!
We're on the same page, just on different threads.:)
racer42

Hayward, CA

#33 Mar 22, 2011
They call me Rico wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry homeboy, both Republicans & Democrats in Congress have demonstrated a level of detachment from the American people and are savvy enough to politick their way into keeping their seats.
If you think that voting in Republicans and voting out Democrats is the solution then the 2010 November elections is empirical evidence that in doing so only ensures that Congress plays the same old tune.
I almost want to say that a politician may mean all that they say on election day but once they're elected the 'powerful special interest' poisons them!
It is high time that we had a viable third party. The last time that happened is when Ross Perot ran. Unfortunately, he sabotaged himself. It's going to take a very charismatic leader (The Donald ?) to gather enough support to make a viable third party. The candidate wouldn't even have to win the first time around but would have to get enough votes to scare the living hell out of the existing two parties so that they have to change some of their policies and start passing laws that actually benefit the general population.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#34 Mar 22, 2011
racer42 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is high time that we had a viable third party. The last time that happened is when Ross Perot ran. Unfortunately, he sabotaged himself. It's going to take a very charismatic leader (The Donald ?) to gather enough support to make a viable third party. The candidate wouldn't even have to win the first time around but would have to get enough votes to scare the living hell out of the existing two parties so that they have to change some of their policies and start passing laws that actually benefit the general population.
Ron Paul and the Donald would do it………..

I could see it now.

Ron….Donald we need to eliminate the FED and the IRS.
Donald…..Would tomorrow be soon enough Ron?
racer42

Hayward, CA

#35 Mar 22, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Ron Paul and the Donald would do it………..
I could see it now.
Ron….Donald we need to eliminate the FED and the IRS.
Donald…..Would tomorrow be soon enough Ron?
That's a ticket that would make the Chinese crap in their pants. If I remember correctly, Trump said the first order of business would be to pay off the debt to China to take away any control they might have.

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