States eye drug tests for welfare rec...

States eye drug tests for welfare recipients

There are 1106 comments on the HeraldTribune.com story from May 10, 2011, titled States eye drug tests for welfare recipients. In it, HeraldTribune.com reports that:

Lawmakers in more than two-dozen states have proposed drug-testing recipients of welfare or other government assistance, taking a tough stance on aiding the poor in the down economy.

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NANCY GRACE SMELLS STINKY

Royersford, PA

#1101 Jul 30, 2011
I just had a healthy poop reading over your thoughts...keep up the good work Human Spirit!!!
Stupid from Hanover

Hanover, PA

#1102 Jul 30, 2011
NANCY GRACE SMELLS STINKY wrote:
I just had a healthy poop reading over your thoughts...keep up the good work Human Spirit!!!
Did you flush it down the Perky?
NANCY GRACE SMELLS STINKY

Royersford, PA

#1103 Jul 31, 2011
MONDAY MORNING 1 AM 08/01/11

RE: HUMAN SPIRIT's LAST SUBJECT COMMENTS...
I agree 100% with HUMAN SPIRIT and have judged his/her opinion as: ABSOLUTLEY BRILLIANT!!! Keep up the good work. Have a good week to all. Big Kisses....best, Nancy Grace...I will sleep well knowing this information
NANCY GRACE SMELLS STINKY

Royersford, PA

#1104 Jul 31, 2011
Stupid from Hanover wrote:
<quoted text>Did you flush it down the Perky?


Oh, no, no, no, my dear boy, that would be just, just, just horrible! All the future up-coming folk festers might get upset.(I often do think about transporting it to near-by Swamp Creek)...but what I find is most enjoyable...is to let my herbal & yeasty fecal matter dry out a few days...and thus, I can then smoke it and really see the 'Human Spirits' about the streams when I walk whispering their logic as the waters flow and the endless days go forward. And one last thing...Nobody is stupid in Hanover...you may be a genius deep down...one's self esteem can be the real demon of life. Now in New Hanover...well, I don't know? Big Kisses and a wink.....Nancy Grace 1:20am 8/1/11 [I have now washed partially and are smelling better oh, happy day]
Stupid from Hanover

Hanover, PA

#1105 Aug 1, 2011
NANCY GRACE SMELLS STINKY wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, no, no, no, my dear boy, that would be just, just, just horrible! All the future up-coming folk festers might get upset.(I often do think about transporting it to near-by Swamp Creek)...but what I find is most enjoyable...is to let my herbal & yeasty fecal matter dry out a few days...and thus, I can then smoke it and really see the 'Human Spirits' about the streams when I walk whispering their logic as the waters flow and the endless days go forward. And one last thing...Nobody is stupid in Hanover...you may be a genius deep down...one's self esteem can be the real demon of life. Now in New Hanover...well, I don't know? Big Kisses and a wink.....Nancy Grace 1:20am 8/1/11 [I have now washed partially and are smelling better oh, happy day]
OMG...I used to ride my trail bike along Swamp Creek. They built a new bridge there and never opened it back up 40 years ago. Used to ride around the Girl Scout Camp too. I did ride accross the creek and wasn't sure if I would make it. The water was almost up to my gas tank. Really pretty back there. Now you are getting really close to where I lived and grew up. Just go to the end of Steinmetz road and that would be it.
American citizen

La Mirada, CA

#1106 Aug 1, 2011
Should be a requirement for picking up every check.
HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#1107 Aug 1, 2011
American citizen wrote:
Should be a requirement for picking up every check.
IMO: Protecting and defending the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic is more important then the cash cow of medical profession and those in the politics of ripping off Americans
Drunken Veteran

Hanover, PA

#1108 Aug 2, 2011
American citizen wrote:
Should be a requirement for picking up every check.
And to get a job, you shouldn't have to use a computer to fill out an application. 80% of all companies have a website to fill out applications. Can't just go and apply like the old days where you can go, and get hired the same day.

Tough without a computer. Finding a job is a full time job and depressing then it feels hopeless.
Dan the Man

Bensalem, PA

#1109 Aug 2, 2011
Drunken Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>And to get a job, you shouldn't have to use a computer to fill out an application. 80% of all companies have a website to fill out applications. Can't just go and apply like the old days where you can go, and get hired the same day.
Tough without a computer. Finding a job is a full time job and depressing then it feels hopeless.
The library and CareerLink both have computers you can use for job applications at no charge.
Drunken Veteran

Hanover, PA

#1110 Aug 2, 2011
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
The library and CareerLink both have computers you can use for job applications at no charge.
Yeah...then you got to sit and wonder if anyone even looked at your application. Sit home and wait for a phone call that never comes. It feels hopeless after a while.
Dan the Man

Bensalem, PA

#1111 Aug 2, 2011
Drunken Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah...then you got to sit and wonder if anyone even looked at your application. Sit home and wait for a phone call that never comes. It feels hopeless after a while.
I hear you. I have friends in similar situations. Unfortunately it's all too common today. Hang in there.
Silent_Surface

Allentown, PA

#1112 Aug 2, 2011
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
The great american tradition of kicking a man when he's down continues courtesy of the rethugs!
Why should I subsidize a worthless druggie?
Silent_Surface

Allentown, PA

#1113 Aug 2, 2011
Judy wrote:
<quoted text>
First, you have to think.
If they lost their job and had a card that was not defunked yet, they could use it. Or maybe they had a card with nothing on it and it was still open in spite of their current situation.First, you have to think. Secondly, most people on assistance need help. It is a well loved fallasy that people are abusing the dole. A lot of people are women with children and others that just hit hard times. Sounds to me like these people really needed food. I hope you never fall into the needy catagory and have to go for your drug test. Think about that, think how'd you feel. Really demeaning, isn't it, that people would think you are some drug abusing person sucking off the dole.
I spent 20+ years taking random drug tests... it was a fact of life in the military. When I got out, I had to take a drug test to gain employment where I currently work. By contract, if they ask me to be tested again for whatever reason, I am obligated to do so to keep my job.

I don't have a progblem with drug testing, why should they?
Free Crack in Allentown

Nazareth, PA

#1114 Aug 2, 2011
drug test those cracker ass crakers!
HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#1115 Aug 2, 2011
American citizen wrote:
Should be a requirement for picking up every check.
Republican Scott is testing all people by declaring any doctor prescribing a pain pill or any other medication with in their classification a pain clinic which requires the pee test and a mental health evaluation. This includes private insurance to which the individual pays including out of their pocket.
This is forced medicine and a violation of privacy to people that have done no wrong and their is no reason to pluck them off the street for a drug test or to talk to the Mental Health Industry that has no medical model, No evidence based medicine and no test for a chemical imbalance. There is no imaging test to determine a good brain from their supposive bad brain. Mental Health is political and is based on hearsay.

Further, the doctor is receiving a referral fee to the laboratories and the laboratories are charging (BCBS) 850.00 test that is being done twice a years on private insurance. The State is picking up on the welfare provided the welfare passes the test.

This is just another scam because Scott is test the majority of the population for the few on drugs based on a gray area of law that intrudes the Constitution under articles 4 , 5 & 14.
HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#1116 Aug 2, 2011
The rights to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic should apply.
Judy

Jarrettsville, MD

#1117 Aug 6, 2011
Silent_Surface wrote:
<quoted text>
I spent 20+ years taking random drug tests... it was a fact of life in the military. When I got out, I had to take a drug test to gain employment where I currently work. By contract, if they ask me to be tested again for whatever reason, I am obligated to do so to keep my job.
I don't have a progblem with drug testing, why should they?
I have a problem with drug testing. You choose the job that required one and agreed to it. I would never work for a company that required drug tests. I dispise needles for any reason and find it insulting. I'm basically a health nut and can't stand drugs, chemicals and the like. You obviously forgot that you CHOOSE to have the blood test. Your weren't degraded by being forced to get one for help. As I wrote before, it is a falasy that most people getting help are drug addicts. We just love to complain and belittle people, yes, everyone is sucking off of us.
HumanSpirit

Fort White, FL

#1118 Aug 6, 2011
FREE CELL PHONES FOR ALL wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU ARE WRONG ALMOST 1/2 THE GOV. BUDGET GOES TO HAND OUTS
75 percent of Federal Disability is Mental Health. 80 percent of VA is Mental Health Disability.

There is no medical model, no evidence based medicine, no test for chemical imbalance and no imaging tests to determine a (mental health implied) normal brain from a abnormal brain. It's based on hearsay and there is no science.

The mind drugging of America began under the Bush Sr /Quayle Presidency (1989) and before that the Mental Health was set up under the Reagan / Bush presidency (1984) under the Social Service and Educational Act. Massive mind drugging took place in the 1990's with children based on a bogus diagnose. Disability was given out under the Program IDEA between the Department of Disability and the Department of Education at that time.
HumanSpirit

Fort White, FL

#1119 Aug 6, 2011
Education IDEA

Why your kid is drugged in school

How it works:

The State Department of Education gets monies from the Federal Government (Disability) under a program called "IDEA" for each child diagnosed with a disability. A disability could be ADD/ADHD, Bi-polar disorder, Depression or any of the other mental diagnoses.

Who profits: The State Department of Education, the mental health and counseling Industry, the Pharmaceutical company and the money that is kicked back by lobbyists for politicians special interest and of course the legal profession.

All this at the cost of your child's Health and welfare.

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IDEA" Final Regulation (part 1 of 2)

300.7 Child with a disability.

(a) General.

(1) As used in this part, the term child with a disability means a child evaluated in accordance with 300.530-300.536 as having mental retardation, a hearing impairment including deafness, a speech or language impairment, a visual impairment including blindness, serious emotional disturbance (hereafter referred to as emotional disturbance), an orthopedic impairment, autism, traumatic brain injury, an other health impairment, a specific learning disability, deaf-blindness, or multiple disabilities, and who, by reason thereof, needs special education and related services.
(i) The term means a condition exhibiting one or more of the following characteristics over a long period of time and to a marked degree that adversely affects a child's educational performance:
(A) An inability to learn that cannot be explained by intellectual, sensory, or health factors.
(B) An inability to build or maintain satisfactory interpersonal relationships with peers and teachers.
(C) Inappropriate types of behavior or feelings under normal circumstances.
(D) A general pervasive mood of unhappiness or depression.
(E) A tendency to develop physical symptoms or fears associated with personal or school problems.
(ii) The term includes schizophrenia. The term does not apply to children who are socially maladjusted, unless it is determined that they have an emotional disturbance.
9) Other health impairment means having limited strength, vitality or alertness, including a heightened alertness to environmental stimuli, that results in limited alertness with respect to the educational environment, that-
(i) Is due to chronic or acute health problems such as asthma, attention deficit disorder or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, diabetes, epilepsy, a heart condition, hemophilia, lead poisoning, leukemia, nephritis, rheumatic fever, and sickle cell anemia; and
(ii) Adversely affects a child's educational performance
300.24 Related services.
(a) General. As used in this part, the term related services means transportation and such developmental, corrective, and other supportive services as are required to assist a child with a disability.
(9) Psychological services includes-
(i) Administering psychological and educational tests, and other assessment procedures;
(ii) Interpreting assessment results;
(iii) Obtaining, integrating, and interpreting information about child behavior and conditions relating to learning;
(iv) Consulting with other staff members in planning school programs to meet the special needs of children as indicated by psychological tests, interviews, and behavioral evaluations;
(v) Planning and managing a program of psychological services, including psychological counseling for children and parents; and
(vi) Assisting in developing positive behavioral intervention strategies.
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HumanSpirit

Fort White, FL

#1120 Aug 6, 2011
Parents court add/adhd / IDEA
ADD/ADHD

In the past and today , parents often were taken to court for refusing treatment for ADHD or other "made to order" mental infliction by the mental health and counseling industry. If a school personnel required mental health testing for a child and the parent refused then the parents were charged with child neglect and evaluation was forced. The same applied to a child medication. If a parent took their child off Ritalin because adverse effects then they were also charged with child neglect.(A costly procedure to regain their child who was put in a foster home and psychotropic drugged anyway). Many parents went through expensive court procedures to get their child back. Some parents moved out of state or went to home schooling to avoid prosecution.

The treatment and indirect forced drugging of a child is still present today. ADHD it is considered a medical condition that would endanger a childs health. ADHD is considered a disability and there are a host of Federal Laws for a disabled child. What I am getting to is that child neglect is still present in the school system and the court relies on the mental health and counseling for evaluation of a child which is always is against the parent..Kind of like the Fox guarding the Chicken coop.(money and power is what it is all about)

When you consider Bush's reason for"Teen Screen" and consider he used to be employed by Eli Lilly along with his father, then you can see what is happening. Don't count on a Republican politician to help you if you get in a jam because most of them have pharmacutical stock and they are not going to be adverse to a program that fills their pockets with gold and only sacrafices a childs mind to get rich.. 11 million children ADD/ADHD.... Made to order! Don't overlook the political and propaganda aspects of the MHC and how easy it is to fine tune (brainwash) a childs mind under a hypnotic drug.

Here's some information to show the how dirty the mental health and pharmaceutical industries are.(A slick piece of legislation that is the root cause of kids being diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and drugged)

Under "IDEA" , ADHD become a disability. The State gets allotted monies from the Federal Government for each child with a disability. Therefore, just about every child is diagnosed with ADHD. If you refuse to medicate the child which makes the pharmaceutical industry and mental health and counseling industry monies then you are neglectful of the child health and the child will be put in a Foster home and psychotropic drugged anyway. Your stuck with the court and attorney fees and hurtful indignity of losing your child.

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