Obamacare resisters, get with the program

Nov 20, 2012 Full story: Times Recorder 40

Congress would repeal it, or the Supreme Court would declare it unconstitutional, or a Republican president would kill it.

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Researcher

Killeen, TX

#1 Nov 20, 2012
"Funny thing is, Perry and many of the other governors opting to let the federal government run their health exchanges are usually the first to insist that states do things like this better than Washington.

"If more states were like Massachusetts, where just 5 percent of residents have no health insurance, and fewer were like Texas, where a nation-high 27 percent are uninsured, Obamacare might not have been necessary in the first place."


— USA Today

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#2 Nov 20, 2012
Obama wo. I say let him go ahead and have things his way and get the fall over with. By Oct 2013 Obama supporters will be as hard to find as rocking horse sh1t. EVERYBODY who voted for him in 2012 will drop him like a bad habit......
GEORGE

Canton, OH

#3 Nov 20, 2012
okimar wrote:
Obama wo. I say let him go ahead and have things his way and get the fall over with. By Oct 2013 Obama supporters will be as hard to find as rocking horse sh1t. EVERYBODY who voted for him in 2012 will drop him like a bad habit......
WRONG!! All the welfare slugs, trailer trash, ghetto scum and liberal morons will sing his praises for decades.

Get a grip.

The man is Santa Claus every day of the year to the those people.
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#4 Nov 20, 2012
Researcher wrote:
"Funny thing is, Perry and many of the other governors opting to let the federal government run their health exchanges are usually the first to insist that states do things like this better than Washington.
"If more states were like Massachusetts, where just 5 percent of residents have no health insurance, and fewer were like Texas, where a nation-high 27 percent are uninsured, Obamacare might not have been necessary in the first place."
— USA Today
A funnier thing is, with supposedly 27% of uninsured in Texas, not a single one of them has gone without needed medical care. This makes Obamacare seem much more like a scam designed to control people and make a huge bureaucracy even bigger.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#5 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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A funnier thing is, with supposedly 27% of uninsured in Texas, not a single one of them has gone without needed medical care. This makes Obamacare seem much more like a scam designed to control people and make a huge bureaucracy even bigger.
I now positively that there are several million Texans who would fervently disagree with your statement.

What are you basing that on?
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#6 Nov 20, 2012
It should be added... the majority of the 27% uninsured in Texas are illegals, who still got and get needed medical attention before Obama and his Socialists found a way to sneak medical care coverage to avoid dealing with illegals in a concrete way, but maintain their votes.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#7 Nov 20, 2012
know, not now
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#8 Nov 20, 2012
Researcher wrote:
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I now positively that there are several million Texans who would fervently disagree with your statement.
What are you basing that on?
You don't know several million people, so stop the bull. Anyone needing medical care in Texas gets it. I have people living in Texas and they say so, having witnessed the waiting rooms at hospitals and the humane way people are treated, illegal, or not.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#9 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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You don't know several million people, so stop the bull. Anyone needing medical care in Texas gets it. I have people living in Texas and they say so, having witnessed the waiting rooms at hospitals and the humane way people are treated, illegal, or not.
The two or three people you might know who have been in waiting rooms don't make it true for the whole state. Obviously.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#10 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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You don't know several million people, so stop the bull. Anyone needing medical care in Texas gets it. I have people living in Texas and they say so, having witnessed the waiting rooms at hospitals and the humane way people are treated, illegal, or not.
You are extrapolating one or two personal experiences. That has -0- validity.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#11 Nov 20, 2012
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/tif/...

"Texans who are uninsured include moderate- and low-income wage earners; younger Texans; employees who do not receive insurance through their jobs, including some small-business employees; and children in low-income families

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, Texas has the nation’s highest percentage of uninsured residents.

This poses consequences for every person, business and local government in the state who bear extra costs to pay for uncompensated care."
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#12 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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You don't know several million people, so stop the bull. Anyone needing medical care in Texas gets it. I have people living in Texas and they say so, having witnessed the waiting rooms at hospitals and the humane way people are treated, illegal, or not.
I didn't say I know millions of people. I said I know positively they exist. That's true.

This is who they are: "Texans who are uninsured include moderate- and low-income wage earners; younger Texans; employees who do not receive insurance through their jobs, including some small-business employees; and children in low-income families"

http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/tif/...
HeyStupid

Hope Mills, NC

#13 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
It should be added... the majority of the 27% uninsured in Texas are illegals, who still got and get needed medical attention before Obama and his Socialists found a way to sneak medical care coverage to avoid dealing with illegals in a concrete way, but maintain their votes.
When people with no health insurance go to the emergency room for treatment it drives up health care costs for those of us who have insurance. Of course you wouldn't know that because you single source your information. Maybe before you open your pie hole you should get online and do a little research, rather than repeat the idiotic crap you hear on the radio. Oh, and well you are online looking up real info on which to base your opinions see if you can find one example of an undocumented immigrant casting a vote in Texas. Its amazing to me that stupid, low information voters such as yourself have any opinion at all, let alone feel so strongly about your misinformation.
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#14 Nov 20, 2012
Researcher wrote:
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I didn't say I know millions of people. I said I know positively they exist. That's true.
This is who they are: "Texans who are uninsured include moderate- and low-income wage earners; younger Texans; employees who do not receive insurance through their jobs, including some small-business employees; and children in low-income families"
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/tif/...
And, I said, anyone in Texas needing medical care has gotten it.

Whether that puts an additional "burden" on others in Texas should not be the Federal Government's issue. The destruction of the American inclination to charity is all Obamacare is about besides regulating that care to the point of depriving some. Obamacare is an unnecessary invasion of people's freedom and a design only to increase the size and quantity of bureaucracies, who are proven historically to be manipulators, rather than egalitarian.
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#16 Nov 20, 2012
HeyStupid wrote:
<quoted text> When people with no health insurance go to the emergency room for treatment it drives up health care costs for those of us who have insurance. Of course you wouldn't know that because you single source your information. Maybe before you open your pie hole you should get online and do a little research, rather than repeat the idiotic crap you hear on the radio. Oh, and well you are online looking up real info on which to base your opinions see if you can find one example of an undocumented immigrant casting a vote in Texas. Its amazing to me that stupid, low information voters such as yourself have any opinion at all, let alone feel so strongly about your misinformation.
There are multitudes of outreach programs from community based religious and secular to federally funded Medicaid, that see to the needs of people without means. The only thing about Obamacare is bureaucracy and their many new maintenances and self-serving, limited response to a non-existent problem. The often times illegal and predominantly unethical double charging, double and triple services, dedication to getting people hooked on drugs, unnecessary procedures, etc. are a much more significant impact on insurance costs. The problem is character and its diminishment by control freak, angry, myopic Leftists unable to focus on the real issues, encouraging cheats now, promising to increase the number of cheats tomorrow and potentially turning medical decisions into political decisions.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#17 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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There are multitudes of outreach programs from community based religious and secular to federally funded Medicaid, that see to the needs of people without means. The only thing about Obamacare is bureaucracy and their many new maintenances and self-serving, limited response to a non-existent problem. The often times illegal and predominantly unethical double charging, double and triple services, dedication to getting people hooked on drugs, unnecessary procedures, etc. are a much more significant impact on insurance costs. The problem is character and its diminishment by control freak, angry, myopic Leftists unable to focus on the real issues, encouraging cheats now, promising to increase the number of cheats tomorrow and potentially turning medical decisions into political decisions.
You are so full of baloney it's a waste of time to read anything you say and I won't do so from here on. You know absolutely nothing about this subject.

The uninsured in Texas are NOT all getting health care. And the uninsured are NOT, AS YOU SAID, MOSTLY ILLEGALS.

Uninsured in Texas about 5.5 million

Non-citizens ineligible for assistance – about 935,000 (17%)

http://www.hhsc.state.tx.us/reports/UncompCar...
CatholicPatriot

Manteca, CA

#18 Nov 20, 2012
Aren't the liberals who gave us Obamacare the same fanatics who claim abortion and birth control are private matters over which the government has no authority?

Since: Apr 08

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#19 Nov 20, 2012
Researcher wrote:
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I didn't say I know millions of people. I said I know positively they exist. That's true.
This is who they are: "Texans who are uninsured include moderate- and low-income wage earners; younger Texans; employees who do not receive insurance through their jobs, including some small-business employees; and children in low-income families"
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/tif/...
Your ignorance is showing.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.

Any hospital that receives payments from Department of Health and Human Resources, Medicare and Medicaid must provide emergency services. That's the law, nationwide. What's worse, is the hospitals receive no reimbursements for such treatments which accounts for why so many hospitals providing services to illegals have gone bankrupt.

Have you been living under a rock or are you just liberal blinded?
HeyStupid

Hope Mills, NC

#20 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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The often times illegal and predominantly unethical double charging, double and triple services, dedication to getting people hooked on drugs, unnecessary procedures, etc. are a much more significant impact on insurance costs.
"often times illegal and predominantly unethical" Double charging is sometimes legal? Sometimes its not unethical? You talk a lot but you're not saying anything, unless your point is that less people insured means less opportunity for cheating. That also presupposes that its only the insurance companies that cheat, never the medical service provider. "the empty can rattles loudest." Lots of noise, little substance in your arguement.
CatholicPatriot

Manteca, CA

#21 Nov 20, 2012
Bama Yankee wrote:
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Your ignorance is showing.
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may only transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment under their own informed consent, after stabilization, or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.
Any hospital that receives payments from Department of Health and Human Resources, Medicare and Medicaid must provide emergency services. That's the law, nationwide. What's worse, is the hospitals receive no reimbursements for such treatments which accounts for why so many hospitals providing services to illegals have gone bankrupt.
Have you been living under a rock or are you just liberal blinded?
Are you referring to the same hospitals that charge us $90 for an aspirin?

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