Why Romney lost

[Mykro]

Pete-o wrote:

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I'm no supporter of Inbred, but syntax is important, you should change your name to reflect what you mean, as it is it means the opposite of what you want.
A unintentional wrong key happens all the time, but spelling is important, especially in this age of spell check. It's not that hard.

I refudiate that.

[Ray]

Young people and women were given bad information and made a bad decision.

[Pamela]

Jon Huntsman, Sr. sent ALL of his jobs to China and India and that's why his son adopted kids from China and India because that's where he is all of the time. Then Jon Huntsman senior paid to run his son, Jon Huntsman, Jr. for president so that junior would end the EPA so that Huntsman, Sr. could bring his mega chemical business back to the U.S. and avoid being sued over in China for all of the pollution and health problems he has created, and this is the guy that Neil Cavuto and Glenn Beck keep selling as "the great American businessman." And they know he has NO jobs in the U.S. any more, they know he moved to China. And, the idiot liberals thought Huntsman was some great thing because he worked in the Obama admin for a very short time. He took the job in China so he could get paid a government check and manage his father's businesses in China at the same time. The guy was the worst of the worst of the worst and the Dems had no clue. All they have to do is say anyone worked for Obama for one day and that means he must be so great. He was out to end the EPA on this country so his father could return his business to the U.S. and have NO regulations.

[Pamela]

Ray wrote:

Young people and women were given bad information and made a bad decision.

they got the message from Paul Ryan that social security and medicare would be ended on them so they voted for their own best interests rather than for the interest of the old tea party folks, same as the tea party voted for them to be the only ones to get SS and Medicare. Now, it was just on Fox that the Repub House is agreeing to make rich old folks pay more for their Medicare, so the old tea party folks are going to have to take some of the spending cuts, as well they should. Their idea about things was that they would take NO cuts and live off of the government and live on government health care and that only young people would pay the price, take all of the spending cuts. So young people were informed, very well informed.

[bottlecap]

Therealnews com wrote:

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14 Points of Fascism
http://tinyurl.com/2dfewwu
1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - 2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - 3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4.) Supremacy of the Military - 5.) Rampant Sexism - 6.) Controlled Mass Media
7.) Obsession with National Security - 8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined - 9.) Corporate Power is Protected:- 10.) Labor Power is Suppressed:- 11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - 12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment - 13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - 14. Fraudulent Elections:

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/antifascism...

Taking one of your points. "Controlled Mass Media"

That is why the middle-class is geting wiped-out; thru the PROPAGANDA of the Controlled Mass Media.

The great Ron Paul, himself, spelled out the battle the citizens of the United States face.

“The internet will provide the alternative to the government media complex that controls the news and most political propaganda,” Paul stated.“This is why it’s essential that the Internet remains free of government regulation.”

Now, we kmow that Obama will do everything in his power to impose MASSIVE CENSORSHIP on the Internet in order to maintain the "Controlled Mass Media" so the power structure can keep the people underfoot. We have to be ready.

[bottlecap]

Ray wrote:

Young people and women were given bad information and made a bad decision.

Yes, many were manipulated by the CORPORATE FASCIST MSM.

[another]

bottlecap wrote:

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Now, we kmow that Obama will do everything in his power to impose MASSIVE CENSORSHIP on the Internet in order to maintain the "Controlled Mass Media" so the power structure can keep the people underfoot. We have to be ready.

paranoid liar

[The best]

thing about the Internet is the ease that anyone with common sense can easily debunk the other BS on the Internet that gullible people post and believe.

[tony1003]

bottlecap wrote:

I came across some interesting info about AIG that some may be interested in.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/c...
"Though its name is American, the company is rooted in Asia. According to company lore, its founder, Cornelius Vander Starr, a World War I veteran, traveled to Asia with only 300 Japanese yen (less than $3 today) in his pocket and started the firm in Shanghai in 1919. With a partner, he sold marine and fire insurance and expanded rapidly throughout the Philippines, Indonesia and China by hiring locals as agents and managers, a business strategy A.I.G. uses today. Nearly half of A.I.G.’s 116,000 direct employees — about 62,000 people — are in Asia."
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Great, the US is BAILING OUT a Company where Over Half the employees live in Asia. Why didn't those other affected countries pitch in????

In passing, three major US companies in the UK are avoiding tax by a variety of means, including basing their subsidiaries outside of the UK and claiming them as independent suppliers. Does not stop them being American companies. Their names? Amazon, Google and Starbucks. UK government is getting a little fed up with US corporations behaving in this way - as is the UK taxpayer, who is being legally diddled out of corporation tax.

[bottlecap]

another wrote:

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paranoid liar

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Kim Dotcom correctly compares himself to Dr. Martin Luther King in the battle for Internet Freedom.

[Cross Bow]

there are four groups of people is why obama won. Most blacks will vote obama because obama is half black and no other reason. The welfare vote because obama and the Democrats is where that welfare check comes from. and that's all they care about. The Muslim vote because obama is a Muslim or at least a Muslim sympathizer. It's a pity when enemies of America want obama in office. The Mexican and Hispanic vote because obama and the Democrats wont do anything to control illegals or the boarder. And even go as far to sue a state that did the right thing about illegals. It's a sad day in American history that obama is reelected.

It was brought to my attention there should be a fifth group, thats the homosexuals

It's a sad day in America when people like this control this once great country.

[Therealnews com]

bottlecap wrote:

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Taking one of your points. "Controlled Mass Media"
That is why the middle-class is geting wiped-out; thru the PROPAGANDA of the Controlled Mass Media.
The great Ron Paul, himself, spelled out the battle the citizens of the United States face.
“The internet will provide the alternative to the government media complex that controls the news and most political propaganda,” Paul stated.“This is why it’s essential that the Internet remains free of government regulation.”
Now, we kmow that Obama will do everything in his power to impose MASSIVE CENSORSHIP on the Internet in order to maintain the "Controlled Mass Media" so the power structure can keep the people underfoot. We have to be ready.

Do you know the difference between the Russian and American citizenry?

The Russians know they are getting bamboozled with Pravda and the Americans believe the corporate mainstream / corporate rightwing media "Hook Line and Sinker"!

You and I both know the whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.

Fox News and MSNBC are both corporate hack talking air heads loyal to these two corrupt parties.

Most Republicans are conservative in name only.

Most Democrats are liberal in name only.

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Media Corruption & The "Big Six"
http://www.mediaroots.org/media-corruption-an...

Media Censorship & VNRs
http://mediaroots.org/media-censorship-vnrs.p...

MPs say Rupert Murdoch unfit to run company
May 2, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/7lqquss
Rupert Murdoch is not fit to run a major international company, MPs said on Tuesday, finding him ultimately responsible for the illegal phone hacking that has corroded his global media empire and damaged the political establishment.
The MPs said the 81-year-old News Corp chief lacked credibility, his son James appeared incompetent and the company was guilty of "wilful blindness" towards its staff at the News of the World tabloid.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/02/uk-b...

UK lawmakers: Rupert Murdoch unfit to lead company
May 1, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/6q7gfjd
A committee of British lawmakers called Rupert Murdoch unfit to run his global media empire -- a finding that reflects just how deeply the phone hacking scandal born of his defunct News of the World has shaken the relationship between the press and politics.
The divisive ruling Tuesday against Murdoch, his son James and three of their executives also exposed the waning influence of the media tycoon, and could jeopardize his control of a major broadcaster.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UG4R...

[Pamela]

Cross Bow wrote:

there are four groups of people is why obama won. Most blacks will vote obama because obama is half black and no other reason. The welfare vote because obama and the Democrats is where that welfare check comes from. and that's all they care about. The Muslim vote because obama is a Muslim or at least a Muslim sympathizer. It's a pity when enemies of America want obama in office. The Mexican and Hispanic vote because obama and the Democrats wont do anything to control illegals or the boarder. And even go as far to sue a state that did the right thing about illegals. It's a sad day in American history that obama is reelected.
It was brought to my attention there should be a fifth group, thats the homosexuals
It's a sad day in America when people like this control this once great country.

And the ones on the government pensions all vote Dem too. Both parties have left the southern border open for the past 30 years. Both parties wanted the cheap labor here. No one in either party every did one thing about any of it, and Reagan gave out an amnesty.

[bottlecap]

tony1003 wrote:

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In passing, three major US companies in the UK are avoiding tax by a variety of means, including basing their subsidiaries outside of the UK and claiming them as independent suppliers. Does not stop them being American companies. Their names? Amazon, Google and Starbucks. UK government is getting a little fed up with US corporations behaving in this way - as is the UK taxpayer, who is being legally diddled out of corporation tax.

Fair point. International Corporations are getting away with murder by moving their money around, avoiding their tax burdens.

I have no dispute with your point here and 100% favor mechanisms for collecting owed taxes. Another example. General Electric.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/1...

General Electric

US Profits Earned: 5 Billion in 2010

Federal income taxes paid in 2010: Zero.

But they still got: a $3.3 billion tax refund.

"GE has at least 14 tax haven subsidiaries in Bermuda, Singapore, and Luxembourg for the purpose of avoiding U.S. income taxes."

"Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve?$16 billion.
During the financial crisis, the Federal Reserve provided GE with $16 billion in financial assistance, at a time when Jeffrey Immelt was a director of the New York Federal Reserve."

"Jobs Shipped Overseas? At least 25,000 since 2001."

[Except]

Pamela wrote:

<quoted text>And the ones on the government pensions all vote Dem too. Both parties have left the southern border open for the past 30 years. Both parties wanted the cheap labor here. No one in either party every did one thing about any of it, and Reagan gave out an amnesty.

President Obama.

[bottlecap]

Therealnews com wrote:

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Do you know the difference between the Russian and American citizenry?
The Russians know they are getting bamboozled with Pravda and the Americans believe the corporate mainstream / corporate rightwing media "Hook Line and Sinker"!
You and I both know the whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.
Fox News and MSNBC are both corporate hack talking air heads loyal to these two corrupt parties.
Most Republicans are conservative in name only.
Most Democrats are liberal in name only.
=======
Media Corruption & The "Big Six"
http://www.mediaroots.org/media-corruption-an...
Media Censorship & VNRs
http://mediaroots.org/media-censorship-vnrs.p...
MPs say Rupert Murdoch unfit to run company
May 2, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/7lqquss
Rupert Murdoch is not fit to run a major international company, MPs said on Tuesday, finding him ultimately responsible for the illegal phone hacking that has corroded his global media empire and damaged the political establishment.
The MPs said the 81-year-old News Corp chief lacked credibility, his son James appeared incompetent and the company was guilty of "wilful blindness" towards its staff at the News of the World tabloid.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/05/02/uk-b...
UK lawmakers: Rupert Murdoch unfit to lead company
May 1, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/6q7gfjd
A committee of British lawmakers called Rupert Murdoch unfit to run his global media empire -- a finding that reflects just how deeply the phone hacking scandal born of his defunct News of the World has shaken the relationship between the press and politics.
The divisive ruling Tuesday against Murdoch, his son James and three of their executives also exposed the waning influence of the media tycoon, and could jeopardize his control of a major broadcaster.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UG4R...

I have to agree with you here. The MSM is mainly designed for keeping the Elite in Power.

Murdoch, as I said in the past, has created a SCHISM in the rarefied air of CORPORATE FASCIST MSM information flow. I want that SCHISM to exist as long as possible, of course, questioned any information coming down from either side.

The Internet represents an astonishing opportunity for those under the thumb of tyrants around the world and it follows that Internet Freedom will have to be fought for to be maintained.

[Therealnews com]

bottlecap wrote:

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I have to agree with you here. The MSM is mainly designed for keeping the Elite in Power.
Murdoch, as I said in the past, has created a SCHISM in the rarefied air of CORPORATE FASCIST MSM information flow. I want that SCHISM to exist as long as possible, of course, questioned any information coming down from either side.
The Internet represents an astonishing opportunity for those under the thumb of tyrants around the world and it follows that Internet Freedom will have to be fought for to be maintained.

Independent Media is much closer to the truth than corporate mainstream and corporate rightwing media.

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Former Murdoch Aides to Be Charged With Bribery
November 20, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/cbrnqnj
LONDON — In a dramatic new turn in the scandals swirling around Rupert Murdoch’s British newspaper outpost, prosecutors said on Tuesday that two former top executives will be charged with paying bribes of up to $160,000 to public officials in addition to several earlier charges against them.
The Crown Prosecution Service identified the onetime aides as Rebekah Brooks, 44, and Andy Coulson, 44, both of whom have had close personal or professional ties to Prime Minister David Cameron. The British leader hired Mr. Coulson as his director of communications while in opposition and kept him on after coming to power in the 2010 elections.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/21/world/europ...

[Go Blue Forever]

Our FCC needs to start taking a serious look at Fox ......because, being a true news outlet, is the least of their goals, and there should be some kind of quota on allowable lies.....Rupert Murdoch's tactics aren't limited to the UK....

[bottlecap]

Go Blue Forever wrote:

Our FCC needs to start taking a serious look at Fox ......because, being a true news outlet, is the least of their goals, and there should be some kind of quota on allowable lies.....Rupert Murdoch's tactics aren't limited to the UK....

Real Liberals believe in Free Speech!

Communists, Fascists and Pinko-Nazis do not believe in free speech.

ABC, NBC, CBS and MSNBC are worse than Fox, yet I still support their right to free speech.

[new hammer time]

Cross Bow wrote:

there are four groups of people is why obama won. Most blacks will vote obama because obama is half black and no other reason. The welfare vote because obama and the Democrats is where that welfare check comes from. and that's all they care about. The Muslim vote because obama is a Muslim or at least a Muslim sympathizer. It's a pity when enemies of America want obama in office. The Mexican and Hispanic vote because obama and the Democrats wont do anything to control illegals or the boarder. And even go as far to sue a state that did the right thing about illegals. It's a sad day in American history that obama is reelected.
It was brought to my attention there should be a fifth group, thats the homosexuals
It's a sad day in America when people like this control this once great country.

Romney lost b/c he is a rotten sumbytch. Looked at him recently...pumping his own gas and looking so depressed. The shock hasn't worn off.