Stay the course, Republicans

Nov 8, 2012 Full story: New York Daily News 495

They lose and immediately the chorus begins. Republicans must change or die. A rump party of white America, it must adapt to evolving demographics or forever be the minority.

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nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

#361 Nov 18, 2012
David UK wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, there are sections of your beloved party that will never class you as a proper American amigo, know what I mean bruv?.
no I don't know what you mean please elaborate.

“Conservatism is a Disease.”

Since: Nov 11

Lake Los Angeles, CA

#362 Nov 18, 2012
Republicans need to reinvent themselves. They cannot be tea baggers and conservatives at the same time.

They're two different ideologies that just fck the party up.

One should go 3rd party.
nym8387

Brooklyn, NY

#363 Nov 18, 2012
David UK wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course the minority vote counted against Romney, but it was the female vote that smashed him pal, you can't have these old,rich men saying some of the unbelievable shit I heard about rape & abortion and not expect a female backlash. FFS, where's your head at?, I know you Latino Catholics try & keep your women as 2 nd class citizens, but once they're in the privacy of that ballot box they'll vote how they want, not how you tell them. and this PUBLIC forum is my business, so jog on Jose!, lol.
I don't remember saying any of this "rubbish".lol

“Conservatism is a Disease.”

Since: Nov 11

Lake Los Angeles, CA

#365 Nov 18, 2012
I smell a rotten fish in here from Arizona.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#366 Nov 18, 2012
The reason Romney lost is that American voters understood, very well, exactly what his message was.

A majority of voters rejected Romeny's message.

Republicans lost because of what they ARE, not becaue of their tactics.
Frisbee

Renton, WA

#368 Nov 19, 2012
Researcher wrote:
I donated to, voted for and worked for Republican candidates and Republican causes for over 30 years.
I'm still a conservative, but I can not stomach the collection of liars, illiterates and bigots who currently call themselves Republicans.
Reagan would not even recognize the current generation of Republicans. Reagan would be run out of today's party as a RINO.
That is why I am now (very) INDEPENDENT. I've voted for Obama twice
Good for you! Extremist ideologies of any kind are dangerous. As a Union President who supported gun control, Reagan would be called a Communist who hates the Constitution today.

It used to be that every town had a couple of whackjob kooks that everyone laughed at. Now, thanks to the internet, all of those whackjobs can talk to each other and form the tea party.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

Burton-on-trent, UK

#369 Nov 20, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
<quoted text>Good for you! Extremist ideologies of any kind are dangerous. As a Union President who supported gun control, Reagan would be called a Communist who hates the Constitution today.
It used to be that every town had a couple of whackjob kooks that everyone laughed at. Now, thanks to the internet, all of those whackjobs can talk to each other and form the tea party.
For the Democratic Party, that must have them chortling to themselves. Unless the Republicans move further to the centre, they are condemning themselves to losing votes. What some of their more extreme supporters do not appreciate is the Obama is conservative. Whilst they continue to demonise the centre as "socialist" and "marxist", they are merely hiding the uncomfortable truth that they do not offer a programme that the majority of the US people are preparewd to support. Unfortunately for them, the growth of public access to stupid statements means that letting on what they really think (47% remark, rape and pregnancy stupidities) is almost immediately in the public domain.
Nina

Slingerlands, NY

#370 Nov 20, 2012
We have such big problems in America. We can put a man on the moon but can't stamp out the drugs...and the damage from drugs., i.e. burglary,
murders, killing of young children...and much more.
What are we hearing about...government oversight
of what can be sold in vending machines in Chicago
and in New York the size of a soda? Why are our
freedoms in America being taken away from us? This
is just the tip of the iceberg.
Nina

Slingerlands, NY

#371 Nov 20, 2012
Researcher wrote:
The reason Romney lost is that American voters understood, very well, exactly what his message was.
A majority of voters rejected Romeny's message.
Republicans lost because of what they ARE, not becaue of their tactics.
Democrats won because of who they are......liberal
cities going broke.
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#373 Nov 20, 2012
Not only was Obama strong in states with the highest percentage of college graduates, he was also strong in states with the highest average household incomes. For example, the five states with the HIGHEST average household incomes (which, not coincidentally, were also among the states with the highest percentage of college graduates).
Maryland $67,469
New Hampshire $67,287
Connecticut $67,165
New Jersey $65,072
Massachusetts $62,809
Virginia %=$62,776
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#374 Nov 20, 2012
The dumber the state the more likely they are a red state. On the other hand, Obama won Florida which has only 23% college graduates.
"According to a state-by-state breakdown by the Census Bureau, here are the top 15 states with the best college completion rates as of 2010. All of them have at least 43 percent of its young residents holding a college degree, but only two states have over 50 percent. D.C., which was included in the study, beat out all of the states with an impressive 68.8 percent.
Blue - Massachusetts 54.3% of the population
Red - North Dakota 50.8% of the population
Blue - Minnesota 49.8% of the population
Blue - New York 49.6% of the population 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Jersey 47.2% of the population
Blue - New Hampshire 46.0% of the population
Blue - Connecticut 45.9% of the population
Blue - Iowa 45.5% of the population
Blue - Maryland 45.5% of the population
Blue- llinois 45.3% of the population
Blue - Virginia 44.6% of the population
Blue - Vermont 44.5% of the population
Red - Nebraska 44.2% of the population
Blue - Pennsylvania 43.9% of the population"
So out of the fifteen states with the highest percentages of college graduates, twelve voted for Obama. And as for the nonsense some have proposed about liberalism being "cyclical", republicans have gotten the majority of the white vote in every presidential race since 1964.
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#378 Nov 20, 2012
"In 2012, the share of the Latino vote rose to a record high 10%, a number that’s doubled in the past 16 years. President Obama won about 8.4 million Latino votes, using a rough calculation based on exit-poll data. Romney captured no more than 3.44 million votes. In Iowa and New Hampshire, states without big minority populations, Obama won by gaining the support of nearly six in 10 women. Obama won 71% of the Asian-American vote. From the exit polls, President Obama’s support from men slipped a few points from 49% four years ago, but women supported the president over Romney by 55% to 44%."
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#379 Nov 20, 2012
The Notorious Rico wrote:
Republicans need to reinvent themselves. They cannot be tea baggers and conservatives at the same time.
They're two different ideologies that just fck the party up.
One should go 3rd party.
You are exactly right.

Conservatives are what Republicans USED TO BE.

Tea partiers are what the Koch Brothers created, financed and manipulated in order to get what the ultra-rich want done, at the expense of ALL OTHER AMERICANS.

Republicans used to be the party of the educated, informed, and the successful.

Republicans are now the party of the top one percent of wealth owners and the nincompoops they manipulate into doing their bidding.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#381 Nov 20, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
<quoted text> As a Union President who supported gun control, Reagan would be called a Communist who hates the Constitution today.
The newbie Republicans who rave on about Reagan have no clue what he actually did.

"Tear Down This Myth: The Right-Wing Distortion of the Reagan Legacy " by Will Bunch
----------

Neither Reagan nor Lincoln would be in favor with today's Tea Partiers. Reagan and Lincoln would be branded as RINOS.

If Reagan were around today, Tea Partiers and other right-wing fanatics would be trying to run him out of office.

-Reagan signed an immigration bill that granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.

-In 1982, Reagan signed the largest tax increase in U.S. history, including a 5 cent/gallon tax of fuel.

-Reagan was the first president to HOST AN OPENLY GAY COUPLE overnight in the White House.

-In 1967, Governor Reagan signed into law a bill that LEGALIZED MILLIONS OF ABORTIONS.

Reagan signed into law the order that hospital emergency rooms must treat everybody, including illegal immigrants, who comes to them with an “emergency”

-In 1968, Reagan OPPOSED California's Prop 6 that would have BARRED GAY MEN AND WOMEN FROM WORKING IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

-Reagan put Sandra Day O'Connor on the Supreme Court despite doubts over her pro-life credentials and over the raging protests of the religious right, esp. Jerry Falwell.

-Reagan famously said that soldiers don't have to be straight to shoot straight.

- Reagan signed into law bill that forces hospitals to treat anybody who comes to them with an emergency.

Many Johnny-come-lately Republicans of today would not be at home at all in the Grand Old Party of Reagan or Lincoln. Nor would they have been wanted in that party.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#382 Nov 20, 2012
Researcher, you are so right that the tea party and many of the new republicans do not understand where former President Reagan(d) stood on a wide variety of issues.

Today republican/tea party is tearing it self apart. The sad thing is that should not be happening. What should have followed was that yes the tea party is an interesting collection of activists. But with no real plans. Just anger.

As the Tea parties around the country do not have a central or national head quarters. Many tea parties still are not part of the republican party.

The actual tea party member elected only represent their own brand of tea party. AS Sarah Palin the quitter from Alaska has pointed out in more than one speech there are no leaders.

Yet, the republican party invited the entire movement to join and helped several members of local tea party decided to join to win elections.

What would have been an interesting foot note in history concerning grass roots activists. Is now turning out to be a night mare for a party that is realizing that it has lost both its soul and message.

Mr. Romney ability to flip flop and have Etch a Sketch moments is really symptomatic of the ills the republican party is having currently.

The republican party in Tampa had the platform that was designed to make sure that any one with an ounce of sense would have large questions. That either were not going to be good or lacking.

Not that it really matter. 24hrs later Mitt Romney was already running away from the platform that he had accepted and embraced in Florida.

So as times and the political landscape change the answer is not stay the same, but adapt. The democratic party has been in existence for over 130 years because its ability to adapt.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#383 Nov 20, 2012
Kathwynn wrote:
Researcher, you are so right that the tea party and many of the new republicans do not understand where former President Reagan(d) stood on a wide variety of issues.
Today republican/tea party is tearing it self apart. The sad thing is that should not be happening. What should have followed was that yes the tea party is an interesting collection of activists. But with no real plans. Just anger.
As the Tea parties around the country do not have a central or national head quarters. Many tea parties still are not part of the republican party.
The actual tea party member elected only represent their own brand of tea party. AS Sarah Palin the quitter from Alaska has pointed out in more than one speech there are no leaders.
Yet, the republican party invited the entire movement to join and helped several members of local tea party decided to join to win elections.
What would have been an interesting foot note in history concerning grass roots activists. Is now turning out to be a night mare for a party that is realizing that it has lost both its soul and message.
Mr. Romney ability to flip flop and have Etch a Sketch moments is really symptomatic of the ills the republican party is having currently.
The republican party in Tampa had the platform that was designed to make sure that any one with an ounce of sense would have large questions. That either were not going to be good or lacking.
Not that it really matter. 24hrs later Mitt Romney was already running away from the platform that he had accepted and embraced in Florida.
So as times and the political landscape change the answer is not stay the same, but adapt. The democratic party has been in existence for over 130 years because its ability to adapt.
That's the best comment I've read in awhile. Thanks for it.
Frisbee

Renton, WA

#384 Nov 20, 2012
Researcher wrote:
Neither Reagan nor Lincoln would be in favor with today's Tea Partiers. Reagan and Lincoln would be branded as RINOS.
If Reagan were around today, Tea Partiers and other right-wing fanatics would be trying to run him out of office.
-Reagan signed an immigration bill that granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.
-In 1982, Reagan signed the largest tax increase in U.S. history, including a 5 cent/gallon tax of fuel.
-Reagan was the first president to HOST AN OPENLY GAY COUPLE overnight in the White House.
-In 1967, Governor Reagan signed into law a bill that LEGALIZED MILLIONS OF ABORTIONS.
Reagan signed into law the order that hospital emergency rooms must treat everybody, including illegal immigrants, who comes to them with an “emergency”
-In 1968, Reagan OPPOSED California's Prop 6 that would have BARRED GAY MEN AND WOMEN FROM WORKING IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
-Reagan put Sandra Day O'Connor on the Supreme Court despite doubts over her pro-life credentials and over the raging protests of the religious right, esp. Jerry Falwell.
-Reagan famously said that soldiers don't have to be straight to shoot straight.
- Reagan signed into law bill that forces hospitals to treat anybody who comes to them with an emergency.
Many Johnny-come-lately Republicans of today would not be at home at all in the Grand Old Party of Reagan or Lincoln. Nor would they have been wanted in that party.
Don't forget that he was the Father of Gun Control signing firearms ban in 1967. The President of the Union that represents all those godless, hollywood liberal actors? Ronald Reagan.
Ratliff

Orlando, FL

#385 Nov 20, 2012
The unemployment rate has been in more or less continuous decline since the end of 2009. http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/U...
celticwarriors

Bradenton, FL

#386 Nov 20, 2012
Keep on doing the same old same old repukes, then die out.
Ray

Lincoln City, OR

#387 Nov 20, 2012
It isn't mentioned much but Obama and the Democrats lost 7 million voters because of Obamacare and other stupid big government policies. The Republicans don't need to change, the Democrats do.

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