Analysis: Is government's role to fix...

Analysis: Is government's role to fix economy?

There are 134 comments on the Athens Banner-Herald story from Sep 12, 2011, titled Analysis: Is government's role to fix economy?. In it, Athens Banner-Herald reports that:

The economy needs to be fixed. On this, Democrats and Republicans agree. They part ways over how to do it and, specifically, what role the federal government should play.

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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#23 Sep 12, 2011
Ummmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummmmm....
There is a govenment program that pays you to go to Hat school....
to learn how to correctly wear a hat.
Last time I checked amerikka was still somewhat free so people can wear a hat anyway they chose. Or do you neocons want to take the right from us too?

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#24 Sep 12, 2011
Hot Karl wrote:
Yes, and they need to fix it after bush destroyed it.
Your an idiot if you believe Bush policies destroyed the markets. It goes way further back than that. Start looking at the off-shoring that began under Nixon/Ford.

Did Bush help it? Yes. Their policies did not work. SURPRISE! However, Bush was a wall street puppet. He did what the bankers wanted. Look at who was his Secretary of the Treasury. Hank Paulson. And where did Paulson come from? Goldman Sacks. You know, the same Wall street firm that pushing Credit Default Swaps and Mortgage Backed Securities that they themselves called "shit"? Yeah, same ppl.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#25 Sep 12, 2011
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
No it is not.
We are to have a free market. Companies can succeed or fail on their own merits. If they succeed, well, congrats. If they fail, then someone else will step up within the market and replace the guy that got too big and failed.
Government is only there to protect the people from these run away corporations and protect their rights outlined in the constitution. The market will fix itself.
Banks that get to big and fail, well.........So sorry for your luck.
The problem we have is that Wall Street has taken over Washington. The bankers profit by lobbying and using campaign contributions to "elected" officials. The representatives get bought.
We live in a fascist state. The merger of corporations and government.

That's the problem, they didn't protect the people, investors, money, pensions, mortgages etc. They were part of the problem, they ignored the rules or were paid to.

The revolving door of jobs between Wall Street and the SEC is a example, the same goes for our treasury department an Wall Street

The "free" market utopia is a nice dream but politicians won't allow it, the corporations won't allow it.

Free markets only apply to main street, not Wall Street.

So you don't think the government should fix something they broke?

Who will? The corporations? Good luck with that.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#26 Sep 12, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>That spin became ineffective two years ago.
No, it isn't like tax cuts "create" jobs B.S.

It's more like letting corporations make our laws and self regulate, look where were at now, spin.


Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#27 Sep 12, 2011
GoodNewz wrote:
<quoted text>
how are all of those $800 billion "shovel-ready" jobs working out?
About as good as the $700 Billion tarp fund and tax cuts "create" jobs plan worked.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#28 Sep 12, 2011
Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
The words of the uneducated who is envious of the educated.
The "experience" of a single person may be valuable to that person, but unless it has some universal lesson embedded in it, it is likely of value only to that person and his/her immediate contacts.
To judge the value of a group of Professors with no practictal experience thrust into the reality of the hear and now, need only look at Obama, his Cabinet and his 45 Czars and the success they have had over a three year period. They all get an F.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#30 Sep 12, 2011
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text> About as good as the $700 Billion tarp fund and tax cuts "create" jobs plan worked.
hmmmmmmmmmmm Now we know Obama not only spent half of tarp, voted for it and then blew through another 870 billion in stimulus rebuilding Union Retirement funds, but he didn't produce jobs either.
Researcher

Harker Heights, TX

#31 Sep 12, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text> They all get an F.
Jumbo is the one gets an "F," obviously.

How about the fact that Texas unemployment rate is WORSE THAN DEMOCRATIC STATES New York, Massachusetts, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Maryland, Maine, Minnesota, New Mexico, Hawaii, Vermont

Texas 8.4 UP - 0.2%

Arkansas 8.2 0.1%
Delaware 8.1 0.1%
New York 8.0 0.0%
Pennsylvania 7.8 0.2%
Alaska 7.7 0.2%
Montana 7.7 0.2%
Maine 7.7 0.1%
Louisiana 7.6 0.2%
Massachusetts 7.6 0.0%
Wisconsin 7.6 0.2%
Utah 7.5 0.1%
Maryland 7.2 0.2%
Minnesota 7.2 0.4%
New Mexico 6.7 0.1%
Kansas 6.5 0.1%
Hawaii 6.1 0.1%
Virginia 6.1 0.1%
Iowa 6.0 0.0%
Wyoming 5.8 0.1%
Vermont 5.7 0.2%
Oklahoma 5.5 0.1%
New Hampshire 5.2 0.3%
South Dakota 4.7 0.0%
Nebraska 4.1 0.1%
North Dakota 3.3 0.1%

References1.^ "Geographic Profile of Employment and Unemployment Home Page". BLS. http://www.bls.gov/gps/home.htm . Retrieved 2010-12-12.
2.^ "Unemployment rates - Unemployment rates by State".
gossamer

Roseville, MI

#32 Sep 12, 2011
Yes because the government broke the economy.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#33 Sep 12, 2011
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
So you don't think the government should fix something they broke?
Who will? The corporations? Good luck with that.
Government can't fix it. They're owned by the bankers.

There is only 1 way that government can fix the problem and ensure it does not happen again. But they won't.

And the first step is to take back the control of our issuance of money. Right now, the creation of our money supply is by the banks at interest. Until this is corrected first. It is all academic.

Now government (Congress in this matter) is the only one who has the power to create our money supply. Of course with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, they gave that authority to a private bank. Now, all of our money is created and backed in debt.

There is the root problem. The government no longer represents the people (exception for a very small few), they are controled by the banks.

The borrower becomes servant to the lender.

The quote from Mayer Ansler Rothchild still rings true even today, "Permit me to control a nations money and I care not who makes it laws."

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#34 Sep 12, 2011
Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
Jumbo is the one gets an "F," obviously.
How about the fact that Texas unemployment rate is WORSE THAN DEMOCRATIC STATES New York, Massachusetts, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Maryland, Maine, Minnesota, New Mexico, Hawaii, Vermont
Texas 8.4 UP - 0.2%
Arkansas 8.2 0.1%
Delaware 8.1 0.1%
New York 8.0 0.0%
Pennsylvania 7.8 0.2%
Alaska 7.7 0.2%
Montana 7.7 0.2%
Maine 7.7 0.1%
Louisiana 7.6 0.2%
Massachusetts 7.6 0.0%
Wisconsin 7.6 0.2%
Utah 7.5 0.1%
Maryland 7.2 0.2%
Minnesota 7.2 0.4%
New Mexico 6.7 0.1%
Kansas 6.5 0.1%
Hawaii 6.1 0.1%
Virginia 6.1 0.1%
Iowa 6.0 0.0%
Wyoming 5.8 0.1%
Vermont 5.7 0.2%
Oklahoma 5.5 0.1%
New Hampshire 5.2 0.3%
South Dakota 4.7 0.0%
Nebraska 4.1 0.1%
North Dakota 3.3 0.1%
References1.^ "Geographic Profile of Employment and Unemployment Home Page". BLS. http://www.bls.gov/gps/home.htm . Retrieved 2010-12-12.
2.^ "Unemployment rates - Unemployment rates by State".
Quoting todays unemployments rates gets you nothing. The numbers are wrong. Under Clinton they changed the way they count those that are truly unemployed. So using todays numbers is a farse.

When using today's unemployment numbers, there should be a note that states:

"Numbers are indicated by those American receiving unemployment benefits."

Here is the dirty little secret. They no longer count those individuals who have exhausted their unemployment benefits and have dropped from the system. Also, those taking part time work are no longer elible for unemployment benefits.
Reality Check

Sugar Land, TX

#35 Sep 12, 2011
You fools out there may as well get this through your heads....the #1 job of GOOBERMINT is to TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET and PUT IT INTO T-H-E-I-R POCKETS. They live and breathe daily to figure out new and innovative ways to TAKE YOUR MONEY THAT YOU WORKED FOR..........O-U-T of YOUR POCKET (without you realizing it....why? because you are STUPID) and INTO THEIR PERSONAL OFFSHORE BANK ACCOUNTS. Republicans are the BEST at this and the Democrats are right in behind them, throwing out a few crumbs so that the populus won't rise up and take up arms against them. The sooner you fools realize this....the better off you will be.

Wartime III

“Operation GTFO Advocate”

Since: Jul 11

Kenyan-Bound Commie Blubber

#36 Sep 12, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>To judge the value of a group of Professors with no practictal experience thrust into the reality of the hear and now, need only look at Obama, his Cabinet and his 45 Czars and the success they have had over a three year period. They all get an F.
The only "cabinet" the kenyan is capable of managing is his locker in the janitor's closet at a Chicago WalMart.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#37 Sep 12, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>hmmmmmmmmmmm Now we know Obama not only spent half of tarp, voted for it and then blew through another 870 billion in stimulus rebuilding Union Retirement funds, but he didn't produce jobs either.
Giving it to bank CEO''s for their bonuses didn't create jobs either.
Researcher

Harker Heights, TX

#38 Sep 12, 2011
Somebody want to bet me that "reality" and "wartime" don't call themselves "Christians"?

Where's the love, guys?

From the Holy Bible:

Ezekiel 18:7 He does not oppress anyone,… but gives his food to the hungry and provides clothing for the naked.

__________
Romans 12:13 Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.
__________
Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.

James 2:16 If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?

Isaiah 58:7 Is it not to share your food with the hungry and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter--when you see the naked, to clothe him, and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?

You shall love your neighbor as yourself.[Matthew 22:39
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#39 Sep 12, 2011
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
Government can't fix it. They're owned by the bankers.
There is only 1 way that government can fix the problem and ensure it does not happen again. But they won't.
And the first step is to take back the control of our issuance of money. Right now, the creation of our money supply is by the banks at interest. Until this is corrected first. It is all academic.
Now government (Congress in this matter) is the only one who has the power to create our money supply. Of course with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, they gave that authority to a private bank. Now, all of our money is created and backed in debt.
There is the root problem. The government no longer represents the people (exception for a very small few), they are controled by the banks.
The borrower becomes servant to the lender.
The quote from Mayer Ansler Rothchild still rings true even today, "Permit me to control a nations money and I care not who makes it laws."
I agree with your comment except:

"and the first step is to take back the control of our issuance of money. Right now, the creation of our money supply is by the banks at interest. Until this is corrected first. It is all academic". Who would be in charge of doing that?
cjrian

United States

#41 Sep 12, 2011
Researcher wrote:
Jumbo is the one gets an "F," obviously.
How about the fact that Texas unemployment rate is WORSE THAN DEMOCRATIC STATES New York, Massachusetts, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Maryland, Maine, Minnesota, New Mexico, Hawaii, Vermont
...
Maybe that's because the unemployed are LEAVING blue States that have no job growth for places like Texas that ARE creating jobs?

Desperate people leave hopelessness for hopefulness.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#42 Sep 12, 2011
just saying wrote:
<quoted text>
government is not a christian enity.......
your bible arguements are ill used.....and are not appropreate.
Not according to the Teaxass twins George and Rick.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#43 Sep 12, 2011
Simple, the average american spends about 8% of their income on entertainment and "fun" things. Why not keep that give the rest to the federal government and let the government provide our needs. We could still elect people to make the decisions. That way it is an equal playing field for everyone and not just the rich people. We would all have food, clothing, shelter, and the jobs would go toward making the country better. We would be able to stop all the bickering about who said what and who did what. Also we could all work to pay off our debts and invest in the future.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#44 Sep 12, 2011
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with your comment except:
"and the first step is to take back the control of our issuance of money. Right now, the creation of our money supply is by the banks at interest. Until this is corrected first. It is all academic". Who would be in charge of doing that?
As the constitution states. The Congress. Article 1 section 8 Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures.

This is done by the banks, not the Congress.

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