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Texas: State rejects Confederate license plates

There are 56 comments on the www.chron.com story from Nov 10, 2011, titled Texas: State rejects Confederate license plates. In it, www.chron.com reports that:

Just weeks after Gov. Rick Perry expressed opposition to putting an image of the Confederate battle flag on specialty Texas license plates, his appointees on the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles unanimously rejected the proposal Thursday.

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att

Franklin, TN

#23 Nov 11, 2011
drinK the hivE wrote:
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ATT Do U Work 4 AT&T Retention Dept?...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =t98IWdc-Zb0XX&feature=rel ated
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gossamer

Roseville, MI

#24 Nov 12, 2011
APV wrote:
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Do you have a link to support because the article does not make it look good for him?
No bubble pop, I'm voting Democratic.
;o)
Who cares. You are all wrong. The KKK wasn't the most popular in the deep south. Do some research.
Anne

Washington, DC

#25 Nov 12, 2011
Robbie wrote:
<quoted text>What's with "Our Confederate Flag"?? Never been my flag and never will be. In case nobody informed you the Confederate States of America tried to destroy this country and as far as I'm concerned they should put that flag on a roll so we can use it to wipe our collective azzes with it. The only place it has in our history is that it stand for the thousands killed while trying to overtake our country.......
The only appropriate place for the Confederate flag is in a museum of American history, as a symbol of reaction that needed to be fought against and still does.

Since: Sep 07

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#26 Nov 12, 2011
Robbie wrote:
<quoted text>What's with "Our Confederate Flag"?? Never been my flag and never will be. In case nobody informed you the Confederate States of America tried to destroy this country and as far as I'm concerned they should put that flag on a roll so we can use it to wipe our collective azzes with it. The only place it has in our history is that it stand for the thousands killed while trying to overtake our country.......
Where did you learn history? In a government school?

APV

“You were saying about bp aging”

Since: Apr 08

still busy trolling??

#27 Nov 12, 2011
gossamer wrote:
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Who cares. You are all wrong. The KKK wasn't the most popular in the deep south. Do some research.
Never said they were most popular in the deep south, however, they certainly couldn't march through the streets in the north since that was mostly abolitionist areas.

Feel free to provide any links to support your claim if you feel so strongly, otherwise.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#28 Nov 12, 2011
oh _ ReaIIy ___ wrote:
For example, the Confederate battle flag has no more to do with the Ku Klux Klan than the Christian cross which the Klan carries and burns or the flag of the United States that the Klan says the Pledge of Allegiance to, yet the news media and Hollywood constantly try to connect our Confederate flag to the Klan in their propaganda. However, the news media never ask preachers if they are Klan members, because they wear a cross around their necks or link the American Legion to the Klan because they carry the U.S. flag. It is time to put an end to this anti-Confederate bigotry. It is past time that the truth was told. Hitler's tactic of "tell a big enough lie often enough and people will believe it" has been utilized to the fullest extent, to smear the Confederate States of America and her symbols such as the battle flag.
-I would credit my source by linking it, but, I've been told nobody clicks them anyway, so why bother?
You are right.

The "confederate flag" is the banner of traitors and turncoats; while the KKK is the gang of ignorant cowards.

There is much crossover, but they are two different things.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#29 Nov 13, 2011
The Conferate flag is hardly a symbol of unity. It is a symbol of division. Unity gives strength. Division undermines strength.

Since: Sep 07

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#30 Nov 13, 2011
APV wrote:
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Never said they were most popular in the deep south, however, they certainly couldn't march through the streets in the north since that was mostly abolitionist areas.
Feel free to provide any links to support your claim if you feel so strongly, otherwise.
Why is it in everybodies mind there is only North or South? I guess because people only think in black or white.

The “secret” society had 3 million members during its heyday in the early 1920s; roughly half its members lived in metropolitan areas, and although it enjoyed considerable support in the South, the Klan was strongest in the Midwest and Southwest.

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6689

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#31 Nov 13, 2011
Anne wrote:
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The only appropriate place for the Confederate flag is in a museum of American history, as a symbol of reaction that needed to be fought against and still does.
And the flag pole up your. Well you know.
Strom Thurmond

Greensboro, NC

#33 Nov 13, 2011
Texans wanting a Confederate license plate. Gadam if that ain't like a rape victim wearing a pic of the penis that raped her,around her neck. Don't them silly bastards know that we got all the shit kicked out of us in that war? We let them rich plantation owners talk us in to fighting for them,so they could keep their negra slaves.
Anne

Washington, DC

#34 Nov 13, 2011
iamsmarterthanyou wrote:
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And the flag pole up your. Well you know.
Your silly, juvenile response is typical of someone who does not have any sane, rational argument. As I've said before, the Confederate flag belongs in a museum as a reminder of one of the less proud episodes in American history. This country is becoming increasingly diverse and we are living in the 21st century. The Confederate flag represents a past that a relative few folks long for. While those who fought on the Confederate side fought as valiantly as those on the Union side, there is no disputing the fact that they were fighting for an ignoble cause regardless of whether or not they were slaveholders. The appropriate emotion as far as I'm concerned is regret that so many lost their lives fighting on the wrong and losing side of the issues.

Since: Sep 07

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#35 Nov 13, 2011
Anne wrote:
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Your silly, juvenile response is typical of someone who does not have any sane, rational argument. As I've said before, the Confederate flag belongs in a museum as a reminder of one of the less proud episodes in American history. This country is becoming increasingly diverse and we are living in the 21st century. The Confederate flag represents a past that a relative few folks long for. While those who fought on the Confederate side fought as valiantly as those on the Union side, there is no disputing the fact that they were fighting for an ignoble cause regardless of whether or not they were slaveholders. The appropriate emotion as far as I'm concerned is regret that so many lost their lives fighting on the wrong and losing side of the issues.
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

On one side you are saying the flag belongs in a museum.

On the other side you are saying we are becoming increasingly diverse.

So people who honor the confederate flag should hide it away in a museum because others might get offended.

Hide it away in a museum? For all to see. A Museum? Really?
Anne

Washington, DC

#36 Nov 13, 2011
iamsmarterthanyou wrote:
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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
On one side you are saying the flag belongs in a museum.
On the other side you are saying we are becoming increasingly diverse.
So people who honor the confederate flag should hide it away in a museum because others might get offended.
Hide it away in a museum? For all to see. A Museum? Really?
Yes,the only place it belongs IS an a museum of American history, because it serves no purpose other than as a reminder of the deep divisions that caused the Civil War, and now as a symbol for many of white supremacy. The country is becoming more and more diverse, with many non-whites who cannot relate to the Confederate flag and what it has come to symbolize. For that matter, there are many whites who don't relate to it either. Some folks think it shouldn't continue to exist at all, but I believe it should serve as a symbol of where at least part of this country once was. It is part of a past that this country never needs to return to ever again, but it should be shown as part of a cautionary narrative.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#37 Nov 13, 2011
Anne wrote:
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Yes,the only place it belongs IS an a museum of American history, because it serves no purpose other than as a reminder of the deep divisions that caused the Civil War, and now as a symbol for many of white supremacy. The country is becoming more and more diverse, with many non-whites who cannot relate to the Confederate flag and what it has come to symbolize. For that matter, there are many whites who don't relate to it either. Some folks think it shouldn't continue to exist at all, but I believe it should serve as a symbol of where at least part of this country once was. It is part of a past that this country never needs to return to ever again, but it should be shown as part of a cautionary narrative.
You must be one of those idiots that believe the war was fought over slavery.
gossamer

Roseville, MI

#38 Nov 13, 2011
The Confederacy and its history are a very important part of American history.

Americans honor Black History Month.

They can honor the history of the Confederacy where thousands of gallant Americans fought to preserve their land from Northern domination and carpetbaggers.

Take the Civil War Quiz!

Who said the following—Union General Ulysses S. Grant, or Confederate General Robert E. Lee?

If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side.
gossamer

Roseville, MI

#39 Nov 13, 2011
1. Who said the following—Abraham Lincoln, or Confederate President Jefferson Davis?

I will say, then, that I am not now, nor never have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social or political equality of the white and black races. I am not now, nor never have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor of intermarriage with white people; and I will say, in addition to this, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which, I believe, will forever forbid the two races living together in terms of social and political equality. Inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white man.

http://www.daveblackonline.com/take_the_civil...
Chicago Guy

Evanston, IL

#40 Nov 13, 2011
iamsmarterthanyou wrote:
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You must be one of those idiots that believe the war was fought over slavery.
By "idiot", then, do you mean professors of American History?

We've all heard the specious claim about "States Rights" being the cause... but the ONLY right the southern states wanted was to keep slaves.

In fact, slavery is mentioned as a primary motivation for secession in more than half of the southern states' secession declarations.
Chicago Guy

Evanston, IL

#41 Nov 13, 2011
gossamer wrote:
The Confederacy and its history are a very important part of American history.
Americans honor Black History Month.
They can honor the history of the Confederacy where thousands of gallant Americans fought to preserve their land from Northern domination and carpetbaggers.
Take the Civil War Quiz!
Who said the following—Union General Ulysses S. Grant, or Confederate General Robert E. Lee?
If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side.
Sorry. But that's a bullshit argument.

Many Germans still honor the sacrifices their family members made during WWII. But they'd never be stupid enough to expect the state to issue commemorative license plates with swastikas on them.
Chicago Guy

Evanston, IL

#42 Nov 13, 2011
oh _ ReaIIy ___ wrote:
For example, the Confederate battle flag has no more to do with the Ku Klux Klan than the Christian cross which the Klan carries and burns or the flag of the United States that the Klan says the Pledge of Allegiance to, yet the news media and Hollywood constantly try to connect our Confederate flag to the Klan in their propaganda. However, the news media never ask preachers if they are Klan members, because they wear a cross around their necks or link the American Legion to the Klan because they carry the U.S. flag. It is time to put an end to this anti-Confederate bigotry. It is past time that the truth was told. Hitler's tactic of "tell a big enough lie often enough and people will believe it" has been utilized to the fullest extent, to smear the Confederate States of America and her symbols such as the battle flag.
-I would credit my source by linking it, but, I've been told nobody clicks them anyway, so why bother?
The Christian cross represents Christianity, and was merely co-opted by the Klan.

The confederate flag, on the other hand, represents ONLY the treasonous, racist past of the the southern states. It has no other connotation.

And why anyone who is not a modern segregationist, or at the very least a masochist, would embrace it is beyond me.

APV

“You were saying about bp aging”

Since: Apr 08

still busy trolling??

#43 Nov 13, 2011
iamsmarterthanyou wrote:
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Why is it in everybodies mind there is only North or South? I guess because people only think in black or white.
The “secret” society had 3 million members during its heyday in the early 1920s; roughly half its members lived in metropolitan areas, and although it enjoyed considerable support in the South, the Klan was strongest in the Midwest and Southwest.
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6689
I don't think anyone, especially me, is claiming that the Klan only exists in the South. Their infiltration into the police and judiciary systems is known, despite their best attempts to hide their affiliation (hence the need for them to wears hoods to hide their identity).

My point, is that I could care less about an organization that uses terror as a technique to express themselves. Hooded cowards never get respect from me (regardless of their race)...IMO.

I'm glad their need for attention/acknowledgement got voted down.

LOL @ the swat sticker comment. Excellent point!

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