2012 courting fuels tension between G...

2012 courting fuels tension between GOP factions

There are 36 comments on the Kansas City Star story from May 21, 2011, titled 2012 courting fuels tension between GOP factions. In it, Kansas City Star reports that:

Some leading Republicans are trying to entice a more established candidate to jump into the presidential race, a courtship that's aggravating tensions between tea partyers and the GOP's traditional business wing, a deep-pocketed source of financial support in the campaign.Influential GOP donors have sought to coax Indiana Gov.

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TEA Bagger

United States

#24 May 22, 2011
We're going to put in true TEA Baggers like Palin in Bachmann you commie socialist.

Not some kenyan stooge who makes italian food. We're AMERICA! Land of burgers and fries, steaks and potatos---good wholesome american food---not pizza! Where is Cain's birth certificate! The commmie can't even produce it when asked. What is he hiding?
The laughing liberal wrote:
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Agree!
Go Herman Cain!
TEA Bagger

United States

#25 May 22, 2011
Agreed! America is coming back! Go Palin! Go Bachmann!
the Messiah wrote:
The Tea Party is rocking the vote! They have changed the direction of this goberment and know it will take a few more elections to kill the weeds and demorodents.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Buford, GA

#26 May 22, 2011
TEA Bagger wrote:
We're going to put in true TEA Baggers like Palin in Bachmann you commie socialist.
Not some kenyan stooge who makes italian food. We're AMERICA! Land of burgers and fries, steaks and potatos---good wholesome american food---not pizza! Where is Cain's birth certificate! The commmie can't even produce it when asked. What is he hiding?
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Impeach the MAGGOT!




Impeach the MAGGOT!


Impeach the MAGGOT!
TEA Bagger

United States

#27 May 22, 2011
Why are you commie socialists so fckng stupid!!

Debt is through the roof and you want to spend spend spend on impeachment proceeding. We need to get jobs back focus on the economy cut spending and get America back on track and you want waste and spend.
The laughing liberal wrote:
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Impeach the MAGGOT!
Impeach the MAGGOT!
Impeach the MAGGOT!
Chicago Guy

Evanston, IL

#28 May 22, 2011
jim wrote:
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Actually when the POTUS p!sses off the small portion of his own party who still believes in the limits of the executive branch, I can safely assume his self righteousness will get him into trouble when neither the house or senate are on his side.
First off, every House seat is up in 2012. Based on their current track record, and the fact that the GOP has done nothing-nada-zip to create jobs, their "#1 priority", but instead have wasted time, money and effort with partisan doucebaggery like Repealing Obamacare, they will find a very hard time maintaining their majority. Especially as the GOPer/Tea Bagger Civil War escalates further, and Obama's team starts relentlessly hammering the details of the Ryan Budget-- one of the most radical and offensive pieces of legislation ever passed by the Congress.

The number of Democratic seats available in the Senate would seem to present a great opportunity for Republicans... but thus far they seem intent on shooting themselves in the ass, there, too.

I think Obama will win, and the current majorities in each chamber will be narrowly maintained.

But November 2012 is still a long way away.
Buster Hymen

Richmond, IN

#29 May 22, 2011
If the gop can come up with a candidate that is not a religious nut or a right wing lunatic they may have a chance in 2012.
serfs up

Plano, TX

#31 May 22, 2011
Chicago Guy wrote:
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First off, every House seat is up in 2012. Based on their current track record, and the fact that the GOP has done nothing-nada-zip to create jobs, their "#1 priority", but instead have wasted time, money and effort with partisan doucebaggery like Repealing Obamacare, they will find a very hard time maintaining their majority. Especially as the GOPer/Tea Bagger Civil War escalates further, and Obama's team starts relentlessly hammering the details of the Ryan Budget-- one of the most radical and offensive pieces of legislation ever passed by the Congress.
The number of Democratic seats available in the Senate would seem to present a great opportunity for Republicans... but thus far they seem intent on shooting themselves in the ass, there, too.
I think Obama will win, and the current majorities in each chamber will be narrowly maintained.
But November 2012 is still a long way away.
What does it matter for the Repub side if we get the same type in office Chicago? I rather see a real third party then keep playing these games where it is the same thing. Unfortunately our system is unkind to anything more then the two established parties. One thing tea party people can do is stop old guard Repubs from getting elected by not voting for them and letting the Democrat win. There are people that want the wars to end and want our freedom back. And the old guard repubs are like many of the progressives in their actions and answers. Which is basically, "This ain't happening".
jim

Clinton, IL

#32 May 22, 2011
Chicago Guy wrote:
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First off, every House seat is up in 2012. Based on their current track record, and the fact that the GOP has done nothing-nada-zip to create jobs, their "#1 priority", but instead have wasted time, money and effort with partisan doucebaggery like Repealing Obamacare, they will find a very hard time maintaining their majority. Especially as the GOPer/Tea Bagger Civil War escalates further, and Obama's team starts relentlessly hammering the details of the Ryan Budget-- one of the most radical and offensive pieces of legislation ever passed by the Congress.
The number of Democratic seats available in the Senate would seem to present a great opportunity for Republicans... but thus far they seem intent on shooting themselves in the ass, there, too.
I think Obama will win, and the current majorities in each chamber will be narrowly maintained.
But November 2012 is still a long way away.
Agreed, a long way away. I predict the Democrats will lose the Senate, you don't. We are actually pretty close in our outlook.

One Senator gone I know of... sorry Clair.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#33 May 23, 2011
From now until the end of the primaries it is my opinion that not only will the fight be for which candidate will run against Obama but what directions will the Republican Party go in. If the GOP moderates win the battle then Obama will win reelection easily as that candidate will be Obama-lite. If the Conservative base of the Republican Party prevails then the election is a 50-50, it will depend solely on how strong that candidate himself or herself to be fair, defines goals and becomes the leader and not a candidate.

The Tea Party will play a huge role in not just the POTUS elections but also in the houses, state and local elections and the Democrats know this. However, it does not appear that the GOP knows this and that could be a very good omen. Candidates who run for elections as a moderate rarely fair well, aka John McCain ran as a Moderate and lost to a hard left wing. AS for the “quote n quote” Influential donors, well maybe it is time to make them choose a side also and stop playing both sides of the field.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#35 May 23, 2011
Chicago Guy wrote:
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First off, every House seat is up in 2012. Based on their current track record, and the fact that the GOP has done nothing-nada-zip to create jobs, their "#1 priority", but instead have wasted time, money and effort with partisan doucebaggery like Repealing Obamacare, they will find a very hard time maintaining their majority. Especially as the GOPer/Tea Bagger Civil War escalates further, and Obama's team starts relentlessly hammering the details of the Ryan Budget-- one of the most radical and offensive pieces of legislation ever passed by the Congress.
The number of Democratic seats available in the Senate would seem to present a great opportunity for Republicans... but thus far they seem intent on shooting themselves in the ass, there, too.
I think Obama will win, and the current majorities in each chamber will be narrowly maintained.
But November 2012 is still a long way away.
I see things a little differently with all due respect. Those who helped vote in the Conservative Republicans understand that Government does not create jobs, on gets in or out of the way of private sector job creation. Repealing Obamacare is a win and if they can at least de-fund it for now and run on the platform that more votes are needed to repeal it then, odds are very good that a larger majority can be won.

As for the Senate, again I see things a little different there also, some say the Tea Party cost the Republicans the Senate this past election, I say so what! If having a majority made up of several “might as well be Democrats” then what s the point of having a majority, there is not one!

As for the Presidential election, it is going to be entirely about the economy and the deficit barring the U.S being invaded or something major unforeseen.

As for the primaries and the Republican prospects if the GOP, Washington D.C. insider Elites prevail and run another Obama-lite candidate like McCain the we will see another 2-term President. If the Conservative base (Tea Party) of the Republican Party prevails then the election is a 50-50, it will depend solely on how strong that candidate himself or herself, to be fair, defines goals and becomes the leader and not a candidate.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#36 May 23, 2011
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> What does it matter for the Repub side if we get the same type in office Chicago? I rather see a real third party then keep playing these games where it is the same thing. Unfortunately our system is unkind to anything more then the two established parties. One thing tea party people can do is stop old guard Repubs from getting elected by not voting for them and letting the Democrat win. There are people that want the wars to end and want our freedom back. And the old guard repubs are like many of the progressives in their actions and answers. Which is basically, "This ain't happening".
In the big picture we only need two parties, however for the most part we do not even have two right now. The Moderate GOP is nothing more than Democrat-lite and take a away the lite and you have a democrat. We need a party of Big Government, We need a socialist state party, and we have that. Unfortunately, what we do not have is a small government party, not “less government” but a true small party, more freedom too the people party. Hopefully the Tea Party well be virtuous in the civil war with the GOP and take over the Republican Party once and for all.
rider

Marquette, MI

#38 May 26, 2011
http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex ... This story was the second biggest scandal of the 1980's which was completely obliterated by the Bush White House - A complete coordinated blackout by the ruling elite in cooperation with the American television networksThat is why www.voxfux.com exists. Recently, DeCamp won a $1 million civil judgment against former big-name Republican Party figure Larry King (an Omaha credit union founder) on behalf of a young man, Paul Bonacci, who charged that King had molested him and brought him into the pedophile ring.
When your client, Paul Bonacci, filed a law suit against Larry King of the Franklin Credit Union in Omaha, you also named the Catholic Arch diocese of Omaha as a co-defendant. Why?
This sounds just like the current controversy in Boston, except this happened long before the Boston scandal.
Ratzinger is now in the limelight over this issue, but he couldn’t get anyone to do anything 12 or 13 years ago when I was writing about this and filing my lawsuit.
I went on to win the rest of the lawsuit against Larry King, but I was always bitter because I knew that I was right. This problem of priests abusing their position and abusing young children was a serious problem and not being properly dealt with by the church.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20G ...
Bless the Beasts and the Children
WASHINGTON—March 13, 2005—TomFlocco.com—Photographe r Russell E. "Rusty" Nelson was recently arrested two days after journalist Hunter Thompson reportedly committed suicide four weeks ago on February 10, according to two phone interviews with attorney John DeCamp last week.
Nelson was allegedly employed by a former Republican Party activist to take pictures of current or retired U.S. House-Senate members and other prominent government officials engaging in sexual criminality by receiving or committing sodomy and other sex acts on children during the Reagan-Bush 41 administrations.
http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/PhotographerTied ....
http://www.newsfollowup.com/children.htm http://www.newsfollowup.com/barney_frank.htm Tom Coburn and The Franklin Cover Up [+ favourites][- hide]
I got this email message yesterday from Tom Coburn, you know, that Senator from Oklahoma who backs up everything for the president and is very good at cross word puzzles. He's a conservative, Conservatives normally are good at cross word puzzles, and he's a Republican, and most Republicans back the president on everything.
Anyways - If you read my little blurb at the top of my okcitykid bravenet blog about the Franklin Cover Up, and do an Internet search on the Franklin Cover Up, you might feel like me, or you might hate every Republican that was ever born, or, you might be sorry you ever was a Republican. I voted Republican a few times, I even voted for Reagan once, I too am tainted by sin, may God have mercy on my soul.
Have you ever wondered why all republican politicians vote the same way, voting the Republican way rather than according to their conscious. Maybe they really are human but something else happens. All Republican politicians are invited to parties, and at these parties they have sex and all kinds of other things with kids and they tell these Republicans, "Look, you'll vote like we tell you too or we'll tell everybody that you have been at this party." type Franklin Cover Up - you won't like what you find.
http://helpeachother.us/sex_and_politics.html
hal

Maringouin, LA

#39 May 26, 2011
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
The right has so many bad choices to choose from and they still aren’t satisfied, LOL.
Bill Maher came up with the perfect candidate for the tea-baggers…
“Face-Ripper Monkey 2012”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-narrows...
OMG, that was too funny… because it is so true.
you are a marine IMPOSTER!!!!
Nation of Imbeciles

San Antonio, TX

#41 Jun 22, 2011
America will vote for Jeb Bush in 2016 because they won't have a choice. Both parties control the outcome of each election. Effectively, they trade the White House off every 8 years back and forth as they have for the past 30 years and it has worked well for both sides as, coincidentally, the nation's finances have been drained almost completely during this same period of time.

Today, many predict that Obama will NOT get a second term. To be up front, Obama is a loser. But BUSH is also a loser. I have never for voted for a Bush and never will. After Obama was elected in 2008, I predicted he would get a second term even though I did not vote for him.

In each election, each party automatically has 30% to 35% of the votes. So in a close election, the Republicans will have 30% and let's say the Democrats have 30%. To keep the political zombies, like most of you in this forum, tuned in and excited, there are show and endless polls and more commercials.

The media even pitches in with mind numbing stories about the candidates, etc. In the end though, it all comes down to the 40% of the electorate that is missing out of the equation above. Who in the hell are the missing 40% that the media likes to call independents? Those who hold out for who will offer them the most in tax cuts, welfare, entitlements, etc. The INDEPENDENTS DECIDE EACH AND EVERY ELECTION IN AMERICA. Look back and see that those who won offered the most goodies to the independent voters.

The future is set:

2012: Obama will get re-elected because his opponent will be a sacrifice rube that will play to lose. Who, oh who will it be?

2016: As in every previous lame duck term for over 30 years, America will become thoroughly disgusted with the White House and seek refuge with the other party. Jeb Bush will emerge as the ONLY option. No other REP candidate can match the power and depth of the BUSH empire nor will they want to. Many will become cabinet secretaries or good things will happen to them for rolling over. The REPUBLICAN party is owned by the BUSHes.
regular reader

Bradenton, FL

#42 Jun 22, 2011
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
The right has so many bad choices to choose from and they still aren’t satisfied, LOL.
Bill Maher came up with the perfect candidate for the tea-baggers…
“Face-Ripper Monkey 2012”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-narrows...
OMG, that was too funny… because it is so true.
While the Democrats can't find even one more person in all of the democratic nation to run as an alternative to obama. Democrats have no leadership to draw from.

Democrats that have seen the light about obama will be forced to either vote for a Republican or not vote at all.

This is a very sad state for the Democratic party. Only one Democratic person as candidate out of the entire nation.

“The enemy is in our camp.”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#43 Jun 22, 2011
Unfortunately there is only 1 person who can beat Obama but he won't run and that is Senator John Thune from South Dakota. He already said he wouldn't run but I do wish he would change his mind...he's the guy who took out Dashell and the only Republican the White House fears.

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