Republicans should stand for traditions

May 15, 2011 Full story: The Albany Herald 21

Republicans are unhappy with their field of presidential candidates and yearn for someone who will come along to save them.

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Black is Back

Minneapolis, MN

#1 May 16, 2011
Maybe its just me, but doesn't the Republican Party already stand for the Fourth of July, American Pie, and Christmas??? Since when did the party stop standing for tradition? Isn't that the only thing they've been saying the past 4 years?
Black is Back

Minneapolis, MN

#2 May 16, 2011
I like EJ Dionne, and I listen to him regularly. But, with all due respect, the problem with the Republican Party is that things HAVE TO GO THEIR WAY. There is no room for compromise, and, there's no room for adapting to the world's changes. Moreover, the Party has abandoned the history of the United States in favor of supporting whatever facts, or lies in the absence of them, are useful to getting what the Party wants.

1) Have to have their own way. Examples: Christian Right has to have a candidate that is against abortion and gay marriage. No exceptions. The libertarians have to have a candidates that wants to get rid of the federal government altogther. No exceptions. And those calling themselves the Tea Party, has to have a federal government that won't tax you (even though Americans tried that before during the Articles of Confederation, and it didn't work). No exceptions. Then there are those Republicans calling for an end to welfare, immigration, and affirmative action - no exceptions.

2) No room for compromise or adaptation. Review the list above for examples of no room for compromise. For examples of no room for adaptation witness the forgoing budget deficit in which it has already been proven that tax receipts have to go up along with budget cuts. That is our changing reality. Most healthy countries adapt - not the Republican Party. Nope. They keep going on and on about what things USED TO BE LIKE, and how we have to get back to the way things were once done. Today, people tweet messages. Back when things were supposedly getting done, half the population didn't even have a phone, much less the ability to tweet somebody.

3) The United States was started because all colonial efforts to address their concerns with King George of England, failed. They had ZERO representation in Parliament; they tried peaceful demonstrations and unruly ones, to no avail! They were placed under protective custody for almost nothing as it turns out, and could not get a fair trial even if it looked like they were completely innocent. The, colonists were forced to financially support a war, "French and Indian War, and England's other foreign wars" they didn't even have the power to declare much less decline. Yet, all the Republicans can tell you is that the colonists revolted against taxes and wanted limited government. That's not really true. Most of them wanted to stay with England, they eventually came to a place where they couldn't any more. And what they feared wasn't large representative government - they feared one solitary government leader who had the absolute power to tell everybody to go to hell. And they feared this, not only in government, but in religion as well. But, if somebody speaks the truth about the founders, the Republican Party casts them as a socialist, or a revionist, or as a liberal, or as some other dimwitted being. They're not really interested in the truth or the Fathers.
looier

Minneapolis, MN

#3 May 16, 2011
Yeah GOP, tradition of "hate and greed"

Just look at the history books and you will see that.

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#4 May 16, 2011
Black is Back wrote:
I like EJ Dionne, and I listen to him regularly. But, with all due respect, the problem with the Republican Party is that things HAVE TO GO THEIR WAY. There is no room for compromise, and, there's no room for adapting to the world's changes. Moreover, the Party has abandoned the history of the United States in favor of supporting whatever facts, or lies in the absence of them, are useful to getting what the Party wants.
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Right on! As a Liberal, I am not too broken-hearted about the demise of the Republican Party. However, the shape-shifting hypocritical being that has taken its place is FAR worse. The Party USED to have statesmen, who -- when pushed -- would do what was right for the Country as a whole.

As you noted, both Reagan and Bush 1 raised taxes when they saw that it was truly necessary. The latest generation of hacks are willing to destroy the foundations of our Country in servitude to the top 1% of the wealthy. They can't seem to remember that most of the wealth in this Country was created back when tax rates were at 90%, 70%, and 39%-- now they bray that such rates would UTTERLY DESTROY the Country!

It used to be that the Democrats were the "party of the rabble," while Republicans cast themselves as the adults in the room. Now, the reverse is true. That candidates such as Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell, and Sharron Angle were considered serious mainstream contenders for the offices of Senator and Vice President is damning proof of what I say.

Next there are the "Seven Dwarfs" vying to run against President Obama -- NONE of whom have the proverbial snowball's chance in Hell in 2012.

Yah, it is a bad time to be a Republican (he chortled).
imaginaryfriend

Westland, MI

#5 May 16, 2011
The traditions of the current GOP are all based on Stalin, Pinochet, and a return to the age of the robber barons. Neo-feudalism for the masses, extreme wealth and royalty for the oligarchs. Ask Senators Colburn and Ensign about "Family" values on C Street.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#6 May 16, 2011
^^^^^^^^^^

What a crock of distorted B.S.

The taxes collected since WWII have all been in the " Ballpark" of about 18-19% of GDP and the spending has normally been about 1-2% higher.Those rates have been consistant no matter which party was in the WH.

When the tax rates were 70% loopholes were on every corner and only the stupid rich got burned.
So taxes were high and loopholes abounded.But taxes collected stayed around 17-19% of GDP.

The Tea Party is much more concerned about spending that it is taxes.
The Tea Party would have no serious problems if taxes stayed in the 17-19% of GDP .

The real problem is with 9% unemployment LEFTY is spending 23-4% of the GDP while collecting 15% and refusing to lower that in the foreseeable future except for some mumbo-jumbo talk of 12 years down the road.

What I want LEFTY to state is what should be the tax rate vs. the spending rate of GDP in 2015 ?

Not somebody mumbling about 2023.
WAKE UP

Saint Louis, MO

#7 May 16, 2011
Not a dimes difference between the democrats and republicans...they have both destroyed America while getting paid to do it!

America needs statesmen NOT traitor politicians.

Stock up on food, water, lead and silver/gold,,,the SHTF sooner than you think.....
Reagan

Minneapolis, MN

#8 May 16, 2011
My favorite Republican tradition is rampant deficit spending.'cept now the Democrats think they can do it, too. Back off, lefties! That's Reagan's game.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#9 May 16, 2011
WAKE UP wrote:
Not a dimes difference between the democrats and republicans...they have both destroyed America while getting paid to do it!
America needs statesmen NOT traitor politicians.
Stock up on food, water, lead and silver/gold,,,the SHTF sooner than you think.....
Why would gold be worth anything if the SHTF?
imaginaryfriend

Westland, MI

#10 May 16, 2011
Build backyard green houses, gardens, and raise chickens. And guns to get the rich.
WAKE UP

Saint Louis, MO

#11 May 16, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Why would gold be worth anything if the SHTF?
Start here.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#12 May 16, 2011
WAKE UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Start here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WRvjufH29vEXX
Can't use your own words? I'm not gonna watch some whack-job video on Utube. If you can't explain it, you don't understand it yourself.
WAKE UP

Saint Louis, MO

#13 May 16, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Can't use your own words? I'm not gonna watch some whack-job video on Utube. If you can't explain it, you don't understand it yourself.
Keep your eyes wide-shut then, but don't ever say no one ever told you because you chose to ignore it. You have no one to blame but yourself.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#14 May 16, 2011
OK, there bud. You keep your gold and if the armageddon that you seem to be hoping for comes, see who wants to trade it for food, clothes, fuel, tools, spare parts, etc. what would you do with that gold?

(I was pretty sure you wouldn't be able to use your own words to describe it...)
Duh Winning

Saint Paul, MN

#15 May 16, 2011
Conservatives have always been against progress. They were against the freeing of the slaves, the right for women to vote, etc.

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#16 May 17, 2011
Duh Winning wrote:
Conservatives have always been against progress. They were against the freeing of the slaves, the right for women to vote, etc.
No Kidding! To be "conservative" is to work to "conserve" the status quo -- therefore, they are ALWAYS against any progressive changes (like those you list).

Now they appear to want to "conserve" the Gilded Age of robber barons, no health/safety/environmental regulations, unrestricted banking and trading -- and herds of docile poor people ready to give their lives increasing their profits. They can't wait to roll back the progress of the past century!

FOR EVERY VISION, THERE IS AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE RE-VISION.
WAKE UP

United States

#17 May 17, 2011
For those who want to learn, read.

http://dont-tread-on.me/the-silver-bullet-and...
WAKE UP

United States

#18 May 17, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
OK, there bud. You keep your gold and if the armageddon that you seem to be hoping for comes, see who wants to trade it for food, clothes, fuel, tools, spare parts, etc. what would you do with that gold?
(I was pretty sure you wouldn't be able to use your own words to describe it...)
OK, there bud.<using your own words.

Stock up on food, water, lead and silver/gold,,,the SHTF sooner than you think.....

Read from left to right, in order.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#19 May 17, 2011
Duh Winning wrote:
Conservatives have always been against progress. They were against the freeing of the slaves, the right for women to vote, etc.
Another revisionist in motion.

In the 1850-60 time frame the word conservative has a hard time fitting todays language.

The most ardent pro-slavery Northern supporters were the Democrats who were organizing immigrant labor and didn't want freedmen Blacks to compete for immigrant job markets.The Democrats also preached " Cradle to grave " seciurity for Blacks in those decades and claimed the " Plantation system " was the best vehicle for it...today they have replaced the plantation system with the " Inner city Ghetto system " but still claim the " Cradle to grave " security system as they did in the 1850-60 era.

The first state to allow women the vote was the Progressive State of Wyoming which has been a GOP stronghold since formed . It has voted GOP 20 times out of 28 since 1892.

You LEFTIES trying to REVISE history are really something else.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#20 May 17, 2011
WAKE UP wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, there bud.<using your own words.
Stock up on food, water, lead and silver/gold,,,the SHTF sooner than you think.....
Read from left to right, in order.
And again, left to right, what would the gold and silver be used for?

I s'pose there will be folks like you dumb enough to trade useful things for shiny objects...

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