Wyoming gov.: Don't examine global ef...

Wyoming gov.: Don't examine global effects of coal

There are 13 comments on the KIMA story from Apr 28, 2013, titled Wyoming gov.: Don't examine global effects of coal. In it, KIMA reports that:

Wyoming Gov. Matt Mead is asking the White House to disregard pressure from the governors of Washington and Oregon and refuse to evaluate the effects of greenhouse gases that would be emitted by exporting U.S. coal to Asia from ports in the Northwest.

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SpaceBlues

United States

#1 Apr 28, 2013
It's Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided With the New Politics of Extremism

Acrimony and hyperpartisanship have seeped into every part of the political process. Congress is deadlocked and its approval ratings are at record lows. America’s two main political parties have given up their traditions of compromise, endangering our very system of constitutional democracy. And one of these parties has taken on the role of insurgent outlier; the Republicans have become ideologically extreme, scornful of compromise, and ardently opposed to the established social and economic policy regime.

In It’s Even Worse Than It Looks, congressional scholars Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein identify two overriding problems that have led Congress—and the United States—to the brink of institutional collapse. The first is the serious mismatch between our political parties, which have become as vehemently adversarial as parliamentary parties, and a governing system that, unlike a parliamentary democracy, makes it extremely difficult for majorities to act. Second, while both parties participate in tribal warfare, both sides are not equally culpable. The political system faces what the authors call “asymmetric polarization,” with the Republican Party implacably refusing to allow anything that might help the Democrats politically, no matter the cost.

With dysfunction rooted in long-term political trends, a coarsened political culture and a new partisan media, the authors conclude that there is no “silver bullet” reform that can solve everything. But they offer a panoply of useful ideas and reforms, endorsing some solutions, like greater public participation and institutional restructuring of the House and Senate, while debunking others, like independent or third-party candidates. Above all, they call on the media as well as the public at large to focus on the true causes of dysfunction rather than just throwing the bums out every election cycle. Until voters learn to act strategically to reward problem solving and punish obstruction, American democracy will remain in serious danger.[amazon.com]

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#2 Apr 28, 2013
The people don't want a climate tax.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#3 Jun 1, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
The people don't want a climate tax.
And so Lyin' Brian pretends to be smarter than a million PHD's and tells the dolts that there's no need for one.

In other words, he lies, uses the fallacy of Argument from Consequences, and dolts believe him out of confirmation bias.

Lyin' Brian thinks this is good argumentation.

It is.

If you're a dolt.

But denier scum's target audience IS dolts.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#4 Jun 3, 2013
I use the argument, there are no published peer reviewed experimental tests that show mitigating or changing climate is possible, let alone feasible. Wait for science to catch up with the hype. Don't get impatient.
Kyle

Ligonier, IN

#5 Jun 3, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
I use the argument, there are no published peer reviewed experimental tests that show mitigating or changing climate is possible, let alone feasible. Wait for science to catch up with the hype. Don't get impatient.
And I've destroyed that dumbass argument many times as have many others.

In fact, at this very moment, on the "undeniable" thread, your dumbass 5th grade conception of science and your INSANE logical impossibility have been destroyed yet again. I suggest that you make an actual, non-sophistic, no-retarded, non-pathological liar response to it.

That was rhetorical; we know you can't. You know you can't. Time for a new sock puppet yet?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#6 Jun 3, 2013
It's not up to me to prove climate change mitigation; I'm not advocating it or man made climate change alarmism. If you're for those things, it's up to you to make your case.

Please cite any peer reviewed experiment of climate change mitigation or man made climate change; then I'll change my position. Until then, man made global warming alarmism is pseudoscience and climate change mitigation is a hoax.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#7 Jun 4, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
It's not up to me to prove climate change mitigation; I'm not advocating it or man made climate change alarmism. If you're for those things, it's up to you to make your case.
Please cite any peer reviewed experiment of climate change mitigation or man made climate change; then I'll change my position. Until then, man made global warming alarmism is pseudoscience and climate change mitigation is a hoax.
yep, still all he's got.

Concession accepted.

Won't your paymasters be upset at how thoroughly you're discrediting your cause?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#8 Jun 5, 2013
Do you mean the IRS? I'm just trying to present the scientific method to climate alarmism. Pseudoscience doesn't cut it, carbon dioxide isn't toxic or a pollutant at atmospheric levels, or even levels several times higher than atmospheric. CO2 is essential for life as we know it. Don't hate.
Kyle

Ligonier, IN

#9 Jun 5, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Do you mean the IRS? I'm just trying to present the scientific method to climate alarmism. Pseudoscience doesn't cut it, carbon dioxide isn't toxic or a pollutant at atmospheric levels, or even levels several times higher than atmospheric. CO2 is essential for life as we know it. Don't hate.
This a-hole deserves no responses. Don't bother. He's a pathological liar and a troll that repeats proven lies endlessly, never acknowledges refutations, and refuses to support his claims or retract them.
SpaceBlues

United States

#10 Jun 5, 2013
We have documented active sequestration of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) in chrysotile mine tailings at Clinton Creek, Yukon and Cassiar, British Columbia. Hydrated magnesium carbonate minerals develop in mine tailings as a natural consequence of the weathering process within the residues. Magnesium, leached from minerals, reacts with dissolved CO2 in rainwater, precipitating carbonates at the surface of tailings upon evaporation of pore fluids. Increased reaction rates are observed in the tailings environment due to fine grainsize resulting from mineral processing. Mine tailings may therefore represent the optimal environment in which to pursue mineral sequestration. X-ray powder-diffraction studies demonstrate that CO2 is crystallographically bound within the hydrated magnesium carbonate minerals nesquehonite, dypingite, hydromagnesite, and lansfordite. Quantitative phase analysis with X-ray powder-diffraction is used to determine the modal abundance of hydrated magnesium carbonates in mine tailings. An atmospheric source of CO2 is confirmed with stable and radiogenic carbon isotope techniques. Serpentine and olivine-rich tailings are produced by many types of mining, including nickel, diamond, platinum, and chrysotile. The global scale of these mining activities has a sequestration capacity on the order of 100 million tonnes of carbon per year. Widespread implementation of mineral sequestration in mine tailings has the potential to render large mining operations greenhouse gas-neutral and significantly reduce CO2 emissions on a global scale.[S. A. Wilson et al]

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#11 Jun 6, 2013
Kyle wrote:
This a-hole deserves no responses. Don't bother. He's a pathological liar and a troll that repeats proven lies endlessly, never acknowledges refutations, and refuses to support his claims or retract them.
I don't go from thread to thread posting the same thing over and over like Kyle's post above. This is where we differ.

If you don't like spam, insist on experiments verifying climate change mitigation.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#12 Jun 6, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I don't go from thread to thread posting the same thing over and over like Kyle's post above. This is where we differ.
THE FUQUE HE DOESN'T! It's all he does.
Brian_G wrote:
If you don't like spam, insist on experiments verifying climate change mitigation.
That was spam right there. It's why he's an a-hole deserving no responses. He's a pathological liar and a troll that repeats proven lies endlessly, never acknowledges refutations, and refuses to support his claims or retract them.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#13 Jun 6, 2013
Hey Brain Gone, 40k posts ??? Yeah, you spam & really poorly, too.

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