Hagel blasts states on same-sex benef...

Hagel blasts states on same-sex benefits policy

There are 59 comments on the Northern Michigan News story from Oct 31, 2013, titled Hagel blasts states on same-sex benefits policy. In it, Northern Michigan News reports that:

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Thursday sharply criticized U.S. states that are defying the Pentagon by refusing to allow National Guard facilities to issue ID cards that enable same-sex spouses of military members to claim benefits.

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“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#46 Nov 1, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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People in the National Guard (what used to be called the state militias) are not in the U.S. military though.
And I'm a firm believer in keeping the U.S. military services completely separate and apart from the state militias (National Guard).
The United States oF America is a federation of separate states, not one large country that simply has administrative divisions called "states". The states made the federal government, not the other way around.
Then may we assume you want to end this list of Federal benefits available to National Guard members? You know, since they are just a part of state government.

http://jobs.alaska.gov/veterans/natlgrd.pdf

This is a listing on the Alaska website, but they are Federal benefits.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#47 Nov 1, 2013
FA-FOXY----Don't even bother to reply to my previous post. I had read only up to your original post when I posted it, and after reading the rest of the thread, found out others had made the point. So don't put in the effort. I'm deleting the thread from the reminder list I get.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#48 Nov 1, 2013
Gilroy wrote:
Filthy queers don't deserve any benefits.
Stupid, ignorant trolls like you don't deserve any benefits. I won't even mention what I think you DO deserve.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#49 Nov 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
Chuck Hagel will soon be sucking off Satan in the foul stench of hell.
Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death... "
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Of course you are probably too stupid to be aware that any law in Leviticus is overturned by the "New Covenant" so is relevant to one of you Xtians only in a historical sense. As for your New Testament quotes, you are free to believe what you wish but remember these are all from the Epsistles and not the Gospels. Your precious Jesus didn't say any of them.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#50 Nov 1, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Hope you have some kind of "get out of hell free card" Bob.
(smirk)
Since he is quoting Scripture he is unlikely to be a Catholic - otherwise perhaps he could get a few masses said for his soul. But that only helps if he repents his sin of hypocrisy and winds up in Purgatory, right?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#54 Nov 1, 2013
DNF wrote:
These States IMO are in violation of federal law.
To deny benefits to any military family based on anti gay sentiment is unchristian IMO.
According to updated news reports, Sec Hagel ordered the National Guards to comply with DOD policy.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#55 Nov 1, 2013
In the 1960s Civil Rights Movement; the National Guard enforced civil rights for racial minorities
.
So NOW the time has arrived for the National Guard to enforce its OWN civil rights and impose Martial Law on Rogue State Capitals
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#56 Nov 1, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
People in the National Guard (what used to be called the state militias) are not in the U.S. military though.
And I'm a firm believer in keeping the U.S. military services completely separate and apart from the state militias (National Guard).
The United States oF America is a federation of separate states, not one large country that simply has administrative divisions called "states". The states made the federal government, not the other way around.
When a state or a church signs their traditional duties over to the federal government to save state tax money or religious resources; they surrender control of those traditional duties to the feds
.
So now we have TWO institutions financially controlled by the feds
.
National Guard
Marriage Equality
.
.....and it is beginning to look like Medicaid will soon join them because some of the states are using federal money to run substandard Medicaid programs
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#57 Nov 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
There is no pride in being a perverted homosexual.
Only sin, shame, diseases and death. There is no such thing as gay pride, only total gay shame.
Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death... "
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
It goes against my religion to follow your religion; Bobbykins
.
So get lost
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#58 Nov 1, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
People in the National Guard (what used to be called the state militias) are not in the U.S. military though.
Really? Why do they call themselves the "United States Army National Guard" then?

"The Guard always responds with speed, strength and efficiency helping to defend American freedom and ideals. This is what makes the National Guard a unique and essential element of the U.S. military."

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#59 Nov 1, 2013
Gilroy wrote:
Filthy queers don't deserve any benefits.
It's always good to hear for the brain dead segment of our society.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#60 Nov 1, 2013
DNF wrote:
These States IMO are in violation of federal law.
To deny benefits to any military family based on anti gay sentiment is unchristian IMO.
Call out the national guard! Oh, wait....

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#61 Nov 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
Anything gay is an Evil abomination. Anyone who supports this evil activity or even shows the slightest sympathy towards same sex activity will probably be condemned to hell.
Its pure evil.
Its an EVIL abomination.
Shut up and get back home!

Your dad,
Satan

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#62 Nov 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
The gays are the arch enemies of GOD. The gays are Satans servants. They are a filthy , evil abomination.
As opposed to a good abomination?
Back to the belfry. The bats miss you.

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#63 Nov 1, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
And btw, one of the main purposes of the existence of each state's militia, is to serve as an armed bulwark AGAINST the federal government and it's armed forces.
Horsepoop! The National Guard is a reserve component of the armed forces.

The Revolutionary War is over, Foxy.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#64 Nov 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
There is no pride in being a perverted homosexual.
Only sin, shame, diseases and death. There is no such thing as gay pride, only total gay shame.
Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death... "
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV)- Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
I Timothy 1:8-11 (NASB)- "But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted."
Bob, try to understand. I don't doubt your sincerity, but The Bible is not everyone's source of truth or wisdom.
Tom CLark

Mitchell, IN

#65 Nov 2, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
People in the National Guard (what used to be called the state militias) are not in the U.S. military though.
And I'm a firm believer in keeping the U.S. military services completely separate and apart from the state militias (National Guard).
The United States oF America is a federation of separate states, not one large country that simply has administrative divisions called "states". The states made the federal government, not the other way around.
So the national guard should not be deployed in foreign military actions then, right?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#67 Nov 3, 2013
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Why do they call themselves the "United States Army National Guard" then?
"The Guard always responds with speed, strength and efficiency helping to defend American freedom and ideals. This is what makes the National Guard a unique and essential element of the U.S. military."
thank you

Since: Mar 09

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#68 Nov 3, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
It goes against my religion to follow your religion; Bobbykins
.
So get lost
<flying tackle huggles>

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