For U.S. unions, holiday begins somber election countdown

Sep 2, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

After suffering a string of defeats in 2012, U.S. union leaders have little to celebrate, or to look forward to, as they mark the Labor Day holiday on Monday.

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1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend: Even the ultra-conservative Mises Institute notes that the relatively labor-free 1870, the average workweek for most Americans was 61 hours — almost double what most Americans work now. Yet in the late nineteenth century and the twentieth century, labor unions engaged in massive strikes in order to demand shorter workweeks so that Americans could be home with their loved ones instead of constantly toiling for their employers with no leisure time. By 1937, these labor actions created enough political momentum to pass the Fair Labor Standards Act, which helped create a federal framework for a shorter workweek that included room for leisure time.
2. Unions Gave Us Fair Wages And Relative Income Equality: As ThinkProgress reported earlier in the week, the relative decline of unions over the past 35 years has mirrored a decline in the middle class’s share of national income. It is also true that at the time when most Americans belonged to a union — a period of time between the 1940&#8242;s and 1950&#8242;s — income inequality in the U.S. was at its lowest point in the history of the country.
3. Unions Helped End Child Labor:“Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined” in U.S. history, with organization’s like the “National Consumers’ League” and the National Child Labor Committee” working together in the early 20th century to ban child labor. The very first American Federation of Labor (AFL) national convention passed “a resolution calling on states to ban children under 14 from all gainful employment” in 1881, and soon after states across the country adopted similar recommendations, leading up to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act which regulated child labor on the federal level for the first time.
4. Unions Won Widespread Employer-Based Health Coverage:“The rise of unions in the 1930&#8242;s and 1940&#8242;s led to the first great expansion of health care” for all Americans, as labor unions banded workers together to negotiate for health coverage plans from employers. In 1942,“the US set up a National War Labor Board. It had the power to set a cap on all wage increases. But it let employers circumvent the cap by offering “fringe benefits”– notably, health insurance.” By 1950,“half of all companies with fewer than 250 workers and two-thirds of all companies with more than 250 workers offered health insurance of one kind or another.”
5. Unions Spearheaded The Fight For The Family And Medical Leave Act: Labor unions like the AFL-CIO federation led the fight for this 1993 law, which “requires state agencies and private employers with more than 50 employees to provide up to 12 weeks of job-protected unpaid leave annually for workers to care for a newborn, newly adopted child, seriously ill family member or for the worker’s own illness.”
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All anti-American, anti-union teaboogers are free to work Monday.
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America doesn't need a 'cool' President, America needs a CAPABLE President.

And that man is Mitt Romney - quiet dignity, quiet resolve and a very capable leader for our nation.
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Gravediggers wrote:
America doesn't need a 'cool' President, America needs a CAPABLE President.
And that man is Mitt Romney - quiet dignity, quiet resolve and a very capable leader for our nation.
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twostroketerror wrote:
1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend: Even the ultra-conservative..........
Yes, they did, they did great good, in the early 1900's, they were needed THEN, they did their job THEN and all they worked for is now the law of the land. All they do now, is harm business, raise the cost of goods sold so high that American cannot compete globally. They have gotten very greedy, they want more workers unionized because each worker is garnished a set amount of money each month that goes into the coffers of the Union Bosses who use it to purchase Democrat politicians. Any group that 99% supports only one thing, the Democrat Party, has morphed into just another Super Pac, no matter how you look at it, the Unions of America have caused great financial damage. Look at the school system under the Teachers Union, one of the most powerful in CA, the one in CA that REFUSES TO ABIDE BY A COURT ORDER to abide by the Parent Trigger that was voted in by the citizens of CA. That doesn't help the kids, it DOES help the teachers keep their jobs, no matter how incompetent, no matter if they have been accused of sexual battery on a student, the union doesn't care, they only care about the dues collected, that are in turn used to purchase Democrat politicians, to purchase the Democrat Party and that money is used to promote only unions agenda. They and the Democrat politicians they control all lament the Citizens United ruling, have you asked yourself why? It's because now, with that ruling, any business or organization has the EXACT SAME POWER TO RAISE AND SPEND MONEY ON A CANDIDATE just like the UNIONS always had. They spend 99% of their income on Democrats, and these same
Democrats turn around and do "Collective Bargaining" with the unions for higher pensions, higher salaries and higher benefits, knowing full well that the TAXPAYER is going to be the one to foot the bill for the DEMOCRATS LARGESS TOWARD THE UNIONS! Someone, anyone, please tell me that that makes sense. The politicians supported with union money, "bargaining" with the same unions supporting them for additional taxpayer money to be spent for the unions (the ones that are supporting these people). It makes no sense. These "negotiators" have a vested interest in keeping the good will of the unions, keeping the unions investing 99% of their dues money in the Democrat campaigns. It's ludicrous to think that they can in any way be objective and bargain in good faith, keeping the rights of the TAX PAYER in mind. So, they did their job, about a hundred years ago, they are not needed now to protect the worker, those reforms are LAWS, they must be followed. They are an old fashioned idea long since proved to be unnecessary. After all what have they done lately, other than almost single handedly ruin the American Auto Industry, totally ruin the American Coal industry and tried their best to ruin the American Boeing aircraft industry.

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Gravediggers wrote:
America doesn't need a 'cool' President, America needs a CAPABLE President.
And that man is Mitt Romney - quiet dignity, quiet resolve and a very capable leader for our nation.
AMEN!

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Correction: The Unions have harmed the coal industry, but they totally ruined the American STEEL industry, pricing American steel totally out of the global market with their demands for higher and higher free benefits, free pensions and salaries higher than college trained white collar workers. Steel is now mainly produced anywhere other than the US.
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Unions have destroyed manufacturing in this country and have now turned to destroying teaching and government.

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Yes, they did, they did great good, in the early 1900's, they were needed THEN, they did their job THEN and all they worked for is now the law of the land. All they do now, is harm business, raise the cost of goods sold so high that American cannot compete globally. They have gotten very greedy, they want more workers unionized because each worker is garnished a set amount of money each month that goes into the coffers of the Union Bosses who use it to purchase Democrat politicians. Any group that 99% supports only one thing, the Democrat Party, has morphed into just another Super Pac, no matter how you look at it, the Unions of America have caused great financial damage. Look at the school system under the Teachers Union, one of the most powerful in CA, the one in CA that REFUSES TO ABIDE BY A COURT ORDER to abide by the Parent Trigger that was voted in by the citizens of CA. That doesn't help the kids, it DOES help the teachers keep their jobs, no matter how incompetent, no matter if they have been accused of sexual battery on a student, the union doesn't care, they only care about the dues collected, that are in turn used to purchase Democrat politicians, to purchase the Democrat Party and that money is used to promote only unions agenda. They and the Democrat politicians they control all lament the Citizens United ruling, have you asked yourself why? It's because now, with that ruling, any business or organization has the EXACT SAME POWER TO RAISE AND SPEND MONEY ON A CANDIDATE just like the UNIONS always had. They spend 99% of their income on Democrats, and these same
Democrats turn around and do "Collective Bargaining" with the unions for higher pensions, higher salaries and higher benefits, knowing full well that the TAXPAYER is going to be the one to foot the bill for the DEMOCRATS LARGESS TOWARD THE UNIONS! Someone, anyone, please tell me that that makes sense. The politicians supported with union money, "bargaining" with the same unions supporting them for additional taxpayer money to be spent for the unions (the ones that are supporting these people). It makes no sense. These "negotiators" have a vested interest in keeping the good will of the unions, keeping the unions investing 99% of their dues money in the Democrat campaigns. It's ludicrous to think that they can in any way be objective and bargain in good faith, keeping the rights of the TAX PAYER in mind. So, they did their job, about a hundred years ago, they are not needed now to protect the worker, those reforms are LAWS, they must be followed. They are an old fashioned idea long since proved to be unnecessary. After all what have they done lately, other than almost single handedly ruin the American Auto Industry, totally ruin the American Coal industry and tried their best to ruin the American Boeing aircraft industry.
Yep, they have few "problems" to solve now. They need to pad their own salaries and power. They force or imprint fear and untruths to gain and maintain this power.

If they are so great now, why do they feel the need to force workers to "join & pay dues"? Why do they attempt total control? Why do the "big bosses" trade $ and favors to keep and gain additional control?

Honest and valuable persons who work for the good of others' plights are above such threats and insecurities. See them for what they are now. They have outlived their usefulness. They serve themselves and the Dems, not the people -- not the workers.

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The pro union stalkers have been busy, too busy to write anything, but not too busy to sneak on, slither down the posts and give all the reasonable posts nasty icons. I think WE'VE made our point pretty well then. If they actually had an argument or something to disprove what we said, they'd write it down, but as usual, not having an argument to advance THEIR CAUSE, they resort to figurative name calling. Proves OUR point. LOL - sneak back on again and be sure to press all the negative icons you can, we understand that you have nothing else that you can do.

Gravediggers, TedsLiver and Citizen0718, I heartily agree with your statements. Well done.

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The Unions are in DECLINE and have essentially GOTTEN WHAT THEY DESERVE for Screwing America. They are BAIL OUT QUEENS and Force Companies like Obama's GE to Move Manufacturing Overseas to CHINA!
That's how far they've gone over the cliff.

If unions support and a Marxist Socialist POS like Obama, they deserve to pass into extinction. They need CHANGE. Are they smart and honest enough to do it? Who knows.



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What are all you anti-union cons doing at home enjoying our holiday. gfy.

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Ballybunion wrote:
The pro union stalkers have been busy, too busy to write anything, but not too busy to sneak on, slither down the posts and give all the reasonable posts nasty icons. I think WE'VE made our point pretty well then. If they actually had an argument or something to disprove what we said, they'd write it down, but as usual, not having an argument to advance THEIR CAUSE, they resort to figurative name calling. Proves OUR point. LOL - sneak back on again and be sure to press all the negative icons you can, we understand that you have nothing else that you can do.
Gravediggers, TedsLiver and Citizen0718, I heartily agree with your statements. Well done.
The pro-union people arent too busy. We've been enjoying our working mans holiday! Cooking out Union meat packing steaks, going to the shooting range with union made ammo & weapons, driving go-karts on union made tires, drinking union made beer and loving the Union of our 50 States. Unions and Progressives are the reasons you can post freely on this site without fear of govt reprisal, the reason you aren't at your job today, and the reason you can enjoy your civil union in Delaware.
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Public Unions are 25th in quality the world yet the most expensive to taxpayers by far.

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Unions have destroyed manufacturing in this country and have now turned to destroying teaching and government.
in all fairness, the unions had a lot of help from the epa in destroying manufacturing here.

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Unions and Progressives are the reasons you can post freely on this site without fear of govt reprisal,
THAT is the dumbest thing i've read this year...and i've read larry wolf's posts!
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1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend: Even the ultra-conservative Mises Institute notes that the relatively labor-free 1870, the average workweek for most Americans was 61 hours — almost double what most Americans work now. Yet in the late nineteenth century and the twentieth century, labor unions engaged in massive strikes in order to demand shorter workweeks so that Americans could be home with their loved ones instead of constantly toiling for their employers with no leisure time. By 1937, these labor actions created enough political momentum to pass the Fair Labor Standards Act, which helped create a federal framework for a shorter workweek that included room for leisure time.
2. Unions Gave Us Fair Wages And Relative Income Equality: As ThinkProgress reported earlier in the week, the relative decline of unions over the past 35 years has mirrored a decline in the middle class’s share of national income. It is also true that at the time when most Americans belonged to a union — a period of time between the 1940&#8242;s and 1950&#8242;s — income inequality in the U.S. was at its lowest point in the history of the country.
3. Unions Helped End Child Labor:“Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined” in U.S. history, with organization’s like the “National Consumers’ League” and the National Child Labor Committee” working together in the early 20th century to ban child labor. The very first American Federation of Labor (AFL) national convention passed “a resolution calling on states to ban children under 14 from all gainful employment” in 1881, and soon after states across the country adopted similar recommendations, leading up to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act which regulated child labor on the federal level for the first time.
4. Unions Won Widespread Employer-Based Health Coverage:“The rise of unions in the 1930&#8242;s and 1940&#8242;s led to the first great expansion of health care” for all Americans, as labor unions banded workers together to negotiate for health coverage plans from employers. In 1942,“the US set up a National War Labor Board. It had the power to set a cap on all wage increases. But it let employers circumvent the cap by offering “fringe benefits”– notably, health insurance.” By 1950,“half of all companies with fewer than 250 workers and two-thirds of all companies with more than 250 workers offered health insurance of one kind or another.”
5. Unions Spearheaded The Fight For The Family And Medical Leave Act: Labor unions like the AFL-CIO federation led the fight for this 1993 law, which “requires state agencies and private employers with more than 50 employees to provide up to 12 weeks of job-protected unpaid leave annually for workers to care for a newborn, newly adopted child, seriously ill family member or for the worker’s own illness.”
Now all of you PAID UNION SHILLS on here need to be working at "union speed". Don't forget to just coast and stretch the job along.
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Gravediggers wrote:
America doesn't need a 'cool' President, America needs a CAPABLE President.
And that man is Mitt Romney - quiet dignity, quiet resolve and a very capable leader for our nation.
Romney just doesn't fit in with the Public Employee Unions. Their never ending demands for MORE and MORE and MORE and MORE of their neighbors hard earned money put those Unions firmly on Team Obama.

The American Labor movement is very different. They depend on America's success which guarantees them well paying jobs. It makes it harder to support Obama when your future depends on America's success.

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THAT is the dumbest thing i've read this year...and i've read larry wolf's posts!
Well, it is painfully obvious you don't read your own.
Enjoy your day off!
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What are all you anti-union cons doing at home enjoying our holiday. gfy.
. Paying taxes for your welfare you liberal turd.

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