Ohio Judge Grants Gay Couple Divorce

Ohio Judge Grants Gay Couple Divorce

There are 55 comments on the EDGE story from Mar 26, 2012, titled Ohio Judge Grants Gay Couple Divorce. In it, EDGE reports that:

A gay couple that tied the knot in New York last year received a divorce by a private judge in Columbus, Ohio, last week the Columbus Dispatch reported.

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frank

Katy, TX

#2 Mar 27, 2012
Marriage between two men has to be like marrying your cousin. Not legal everywhere but once you get married in a state that allows cousin marriage, you are married everywhere.
Bob

United States

#3 Mar 27, 2012
frank wrote:
Marriage between two men has to be like marrying your cousin. Not legal everywhere but once you get married in a state that allows cousin marriage, you are married everywhere.
Not quite an accurate analogy. If I (a man) marry a man in, say, New York, but I live in Michigan, I am not married "legally" in Michigan. This is the case with many other states who have marriage inequality statues and amendments. On the other hand, marrying a cousin (opposite sex, of course) is much easier. Depending on the degree of separation (first cousin, second, third, etc), it is quite legal to marry said cousin. Isn't it a requirement in some southern states to marry your cousin?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 Mar 27, 2012
frank wrote:
Marriage between two men has to be like marrying your cousin. Not legal everywhere but once you get married in a state that allows cousin marriage, you are married everywhere.
Actually that's not true. In states like Kentucky, it doesn't matter where you got married, a first cousin marriage is automatically voided.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#5 Mar 27, 2012
Bob wrote:
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Not quite an accurate analogy. If I (a man) marry a man in, say, New York, but I live in Michigan, I am not married "legally" in Michigan. This is the case with many other states who have marriage inequality statues and amendments. On the other hand, marrying a cousin (opposite sex, of course) is much easier. Depending on the degree of separation (first cousin, second, third, etc), it is quite legal to marry said cousin. Isn't it a requirement in some southern states to marry your cousin?
What's really weird is if I wanted to marry a woman in Michigan, I'd first have to get divorced from my husband, even though Michigan doesn't recognize our marriage for any other purpose.

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#6 Mar 27, 2012
frank wrote:
Marriage between two men has to be like marrying your cousin. Not legal everywhere but once you get married in a state that allows cousin marriage, you are married everywhere.
I agree, and have said this fr a LONG time.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#7 Mar 27, 2012
In my opinion, marriage NEEDS to be taken more seriously by ANY two adults who enter into it.......and divorce in my opinion is one of the BIGGEST threats to the institution of Marriage!!!

This couple has been married LESS than a year........and should have examined their relationship before entering into a marriage!!!

Strictly just my opinion......if divorce was NOT so easy to come by.......and entering into a marriage was NOT so easy.......MAYBE folks would NOT just take it for granted!!!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Mar 27, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
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I agree, and have said this fr a LONG time.
And as usual you've been wrong for a long time.

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#9 Mar 27, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And as usual you've been wrong for a long time.
No. As always, I have been FAIR. And BALANCED.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#10 Mar 27, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
In my opinion, marriage NEEDS to be taken more seriously by ANY two adults who enter into it.......and divorce in my opinion is one of the BIGGEST threats to the institution of Marriage!!!
This couple has been married LESS than a year........and should have examined their relationship before entering into a marriage!!!
Strictly just my opinion......if divorce was NOT so easy to come by.......and entering into a marriage was NOT so easy.......MAYBE folks would NOT just take it for granted!!!
I understand what you're saying, but you're falling into the same trap the anti-gays use when they claim WHO gets married somehow has an effect on the "institution of marriage".

Marriage is what the individual makes of it- PERIOD. The value of my marriage is in no way affect by who else gets married, or who gets divorced, or who cheats on their spouse, or who beats their kids, etc.

The only thing that is changing about the "institution" is the societal expectation of till death do us part. That notion developed from a society which no longer exists, where a woman needed a man to provide for her and the children she was expected to bear. And a man needed a wife to do the cooking & cleaning & laundry & to raise the kids. Now that there is effective birth control and women are able to work and men have figured out there is take out food & laundry service & maids, people no longer need to get married or stay married.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#11 Mar 27, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
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No. As always, I have been FAIR. And BALANCED.
And yet you're still wrong about states being required to recgonize all marriages. Maybe they SHOULD be, but they currently are not.

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#12 Mar 27, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And yet you're still wrong about states being required to recgonize all marriages. Maybe they SHOULD be, but they currently are not.
As I have said countless times, the full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution requires all states to recognize all legal acts of every other state. There is no "gay marriage exception" in the U.S. Constitution.

As usual, you lose.

:)

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#13 Mar 27, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I understand what you're saying, but you're falling into the same trap the anti-gays use when they claim WHO gets married somehow has an effect on the "institution of marriage".
Marriage is what the individual makes of it- PERIOD. The value of my marriage is in no way affect by who else gets married, or who gets divorced, or who cheats on their spouse, or who beats their kids, etc.
The only thing that is changing about the "institution" is the societal expectation of till death do us part. That notion developed from a society which no longer exists, where a woman needed a man to provide for her and the children she was expected to bear. And a man needed a wife to do the cooking & cleaning & laundry & to raise the kids. Now that there is effective birth control and women are able to work and men have figured out there is take out food & laundry service & maids, people no longer need to get married or stay married.
See, that's where you'd be wrong......I'm NOT falling into ANY trap......it's STRICTLY my opinion on how I feel about marriage and divorce.

You're right, my marriage has NO affect on your marriage or any opposite-sex couple's marriage......didn't before I got married and certainly doesn't now.......but how we as society view marriage and divorce certainly does play into our own choices......and that's all I was trying to say!!

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#14 Mar 27, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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What's really weird is if I wanted to marry a woman in Michigan, I'd first have to get divorced from my husband, even though Michigan doesn't recognize our marriage for any other purpose.
Are you sure you'd have to divorce you husband first?? My understanding of one of the inconvenient truths about the hate-mongers and their war on marriage is that you CAN, in fact, enter into a legal same-sex marriage in one state, then go to another state that doesn't recognize same-sex marriage and legally marry someone of the opposite sex and PRESTO!! Legalized polygamy!!

Of course, it's not the same as actual legalized polygamy, but you'd think that such a HUGE loop-hole would be reason enough for the hate-mongers to demand federal recognition of same-sex marriages. Isn't polygamy their next hugest horror after same-sex marriage?? And aren't their own efforts making legalized polygamy at least partly possible??

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#15 Mar 27, 2012
eJohn wrote:
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Are you sure you'd have to divorce you husband first?? My understanding of one of the inconvenient truths about the hate-mongers and their war on marriage is that you CAN, in fact, enter into a legal same-sex marriage in one state, then go to another state that doesn't recognize same-sex marriage and legally marry someone of the opposite sex and PRESTO!! Legalized polygamy!!
Of course, it's not the same as actual legalized polygamy, but you'd think that such a HUGE loop-hole would be reason enough for the hate-mongers to demand federal recognition of same-sex marriages. Isn't polygamy their next hugest horror after same-sex marriage?? And aren't their own efforts making legalized polygamy at least partly possible??
That's good ! I never thought of that !

And EXACTLY WHY the full faith and credit clasue of teh U.S. Constitution MUST apply to ALL marriages.

btw, "Biblical marriage" IS polygamy.

“Brutally honest. ”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#16 Mar 27, 2012
As an Ohioan, this pisses me off. The state will not recognize the marriage but will grant a divorce? Chicken or egg. Come on.
Ex Senator Saintpornum

Wilmington, DE

#17 Mar 27, 2012
whitefalcon1678 wrote:
As an Ohioan, this pisses me off. The state will not recognize the marriage but will grant a divorce? Chicken or egg. Come on.
The story indicates they got a private judge, you know, the kind you hire, as in mediation cases or libertarian theory. That could suggest some sort of "compromise."

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18 Mar 27, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
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As I have said countless times, the full faith and credit clause of the U.S. Constitution requires all states to recognize all legal acts of every other state. There is no "gay marriage exception" in the U.S. Constitution.
As usual, you lose.
:)
If that were true, then all states would currently recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states- they don't. It would mean all states have to recognize first cousin marriages performed in other states- they don't.

Whether they SHOULD or not is irrelevant; all that matters is they DON'T. So until the SCOTUS forces them- which is unlikely to happen any time soon- that means once again I'm right and once again you're wrong.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#19 Mar 27, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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See, that's where you'd be wrong......I'm NOT falling into ANY trap......it's STRICTLY my opinion on how I feel about marriage and divorce.
You're right, my marriage has NO affect on your marriage or any opposite-sex couple's marriage......didn't before I got married and certainly doesn't now.......but how we as society view marriage and divorce certainly does play into our own choices......and that's all I was trying to say!!
I think how you were raised has a lot more to do with it than society as a whole. Children of divorced parents are much more likely to get divorced themselves, just as children of alcoholics or abusive parents are much more likely to emulate that behavior.

I do agree that changes in society- mostly increased rights for women- have made it much more likely that unhappy couples decide to get divorced instead of staying together. Not sure if that's a really a good thing or not.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#20 Mar 27, 2012
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you sure you'd have to divorce you husband first?? My understanding of one of the inconvenient truths about the hate-mongers and their war on marriage is that you CAN, in fact, enter into a legal same-sex marriage in one state, then go to another state that doesn't recognize same-sex marriage and legally marry someone of the opposite sex and PRESTO!! Legalized polygamy!!
Of course, it's not the same as actual legalized polygamy, but you'd think that such a HUGE loop-hole would be reason enough for the hate-mongers to demand federal recognition of same-sex marriages. Isn't polygamy their next hugest horror after same-sex marriage?? And aren't their own efforts making legalized polygamy at least partly possible??
I asked my county clerk (who also happens to be my neighbor), and she said I'd have to get divorced first. Otherwise I could be charged with bigamy in Massachusetts, or any other state where my marriage to my husband is recognized.
Ex Senator Saintpornum

Wilmington, DE

#21 Mar 27, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If that were true....
That racist pedo is never making a point worthy of contention.

Yet you keep feeding it.

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