Seneca Gaming Dispute Goes From Simme...

Seneca Gaming Dispute Goes From Simmer To Boil

There are 67 comments on the WGRZ-TV Buffalo story from Sep 13, 2012, titled Seneca Gaming Dispute Goes From Simmer To Boil. In it, WGRZ-TV Buffalo reports that:

The recent suggestion by Niagara Falls Mayor Paul Dyster that the city -due to a dispute over gaming revenues-- may eventually no longer provide fire protection to the Seneca Niagara Casino, has prompted a fiery response from the President of the Seneca Nation.

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Just Sayin

Buffalo, NY

#76 Oct 15, 2012
heh heh wrote:
The citizens of nys would have to be plum crazy to vote to legalize gambling. Albany would love it. Pay raises and fatter pensions for everyone with added perks for all. More money to pay off those sexual abuse "allegations". And if you think it'll do any good for wny your fooling yourself. They dont give a shit about over here. More money to mismanage is all it'd be. After a few years the state casinos would be losing money just like otb does. I am rather curious to know how they intend to divy up the revenue. Haven't heard nary a word regarding that issue. Haha. I can hear it now. The majority of it will be for education. Just like the lottery money. What a joke.
Be better for us to get a LITTLE something than Alot of Nothing Like it is NOW .

Buffalo, NY

#78 Oct 15, 2012
Brown Byron wrote:
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That is a fair resolution for all involved.
You're overlooking one point, albeit a major one: they signed a contract with specific terms. NYS has decided that it doesn't want to honor the terms of the contract. Besides the basic lack of respect, and the abject display of untrustworthiness, you can't just make up terms, such as you propose, as you go along. "Fair" is doing what you say you will.

The Senecas signed the exclusivity contract because they wanted a monopoly. Complain about that from a moral standpoint as you will, but any business would love to have that guarantee. I'm sure the Senecas care far more for the exclusivity than they do about the money generated from the encroaching slot machines. So, no, this isn't fair. Just because it's the state that's breaking a contract doesn't mean we should cut them any slack; they need to be held accountable, if for no other reason than the fact that other entities will see how our state government honors its word and decide not to negotiate with us. Those bums in Albany are making all of us look bad!
dur da dur

Irving, NY

#79 Oct 17, 2012
ok question. how did these three cities function before the casinos? did they do so on a budget? the casino compact money that yes is suppose to go to the three cities as host cities would be wonderful in order to pay for extras that the cities want or even need. but its not up to the SNI to pay the three host cities. even the compact states that the STATE is to pay the HOST cities. so is the host cites. ie buffalo, nf and salamanca talking to ny state or just upset with the SNI?
dur da dur hmpf

United States

#80 Oct 17, 2012
There wasn't the level of cost involved before the casinos. You can't be dumb enough to not understand this. And as far as "fairness", are u freaking kidding me?? The indians pay NO TAXES. How much more "fairness" do you need?

Pelham, NH

#81 Oct 17, 2012
Explain exactly what this level of cost is?
dur da dur hmpf

United States

#82 Oct 17, 2012
wow wrote:
You don't get it either, well maybe in part, but the whole picture is really simple. More people, more wear to the roads. More people, more crime. More people, more emergencies. You get it... All of those things are because of the casino, NOONE IS PAYING! I like Dyster's idea!
This pretty much sums it up for you.

Salamanca, NY

#84 Oct 17, 2012
dur da dur hmpf wrote:
<quoted text> This pretty much sums it up for you.
Ohhh. I see. There were never any emergencies in the falls before the casino. There's not extra revenue being made by the police pulling over casino customers for speeding and DUI and other infractions. All the crack heads and junkies in the city that steal and harm others came with the casino. People that have to go in ambulances don't receive large bills for the ride and treatment cause they are getting free rides to the hospital. The local customers that go to the casino don't pay any of their own taxes that are in turn used on the roads they travel on. Casino customers don't go to any other businesses that are in the area either. I get it now.

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