McVea Supports Renaming the Bridge

There are 172 comments on the www.2theadvocate.com story from Mar 20, 2011, titled McVea Supports Renaming the Bridge. In it, www.2theadvocate.com reports that:

State Rep. Tom McVea, R-St. Francisville, said he would offer legislation to rename the new John James Audubon Bridge between Point Coupee and West Feliciana parishes after two native sons with distinguished military careers.

The name change would recognize U.S. Marine Corps commandants — John A. LeJeune, of Pointe Coupee Parish, and Robert H. Barrow, of West Feliciana Parish.

“Where else in the United States do you think there are two famous generals in adjoining parishes connected by a bridge?” McVea said.

A Zachary Taylor Parkway Commission official suggests naming the approaches after the former Marine Corps leaders and leaving what will be the longest cable-stayed bridge in North America named after the famed naturalist, who painted part of his historic “Birds of America” series at nearby Oakley Plantation in the 1820s.

“Those two guys are great people and deserve to be honored. But we want the tourism aspect” associated with Audubon’s name, said Curtis Jelks, who chairs the commission.

The regular legislative session opens April 25.

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“Time flies like an arrow...”

Since: Mar 07

"fruit flies like a banana"

#1 Mar 20, 2011
Thank you, Tom McVea.
Barrow High School

Baton Rouge, LA

#2 Mar 20, 2011
Why don't we petition the School Board to rename our high school General Barrow High. I think that would create more name recognition and be said more often thatn LeJeune-Barrow Bridge. General Barrow High School has a nice ring to it don't you think??
Wonder why

Saint Francisville, LA

#3 Mar 20, 2011
Barrow High School wrote:
Why don't we petition the School Board to rename our high school General Barrow High. I think that would create more name recognition and be said more often thatn LeJeune-Barrow Bridge. General Barrow High School has a nice ring to it don't you think??
New name should be "Lloyd Lindsey High" or at least "Lloyd Lindsey Technology Lab". Lloyd's brand will be on this school and school system for ever. I didn't always agree with him, and he was some times arrogant, but he knew how to get stuff done! My vote is for Lloyd. The Generals deserve the bridge, Lloyd earned the school.
Go Tom

Paulina, LA

#4 Mar 20, 2011
This is good news and makes more sense. Audubon is celebrated enough in this area!
These two great men of national stature grew up on either side of the river. Now these two lands will be joined by this bridge. This gives people even MORE reason to come to this area. The smart folks in tourism know this and support the renaming of the bridge.
The Zachary Taylor Parkway commission is sticking with the name because it was "their" pick many years ago, and the influence of a few key people who feel strongly about it on that commission. Not because it is the best choice.
A straw poll sampling legislators from the capitol region indicates the name change will very likely happen. The rest of the state will go along with whatever the capitol delegation decides it seems.
Congratulations, LeJeune-Barrow Bridge. The grand opening will occur possibly in late June or sometime in July and that is the name that will be in all the national news.
No Name Bridge

Baton Rouge, LA

#6 Mar 21, 2011
Don't do it Tom. You know that the people of this area want the bridge to keep its name - Audubon. Don't mess up the grand opening of this beautiful tourist asset. Please don't let your political aspirations mess this up. Rename something else after your close family friend Mr. Barrow. We don't want another No Name Bridge in this area.

ie..Horace Wilkinson Bridge
Many local people refer to this bridge as the ‘New Bridge’, to distinguish the structure from the older US-190 bridge located 4 miles to the north. The bridge was officially named by the Louisiana state legislature in Act 206 in 1968. The act states,“These gentlemen served diligently, contributing greatly to the betterment of the state” when speaking of the three generations of Wilkinsons who served a total of 54 years in that body. There is some dispute if the state of Louisiana legislature had the authority to give an official name to a federally funded bridge. As a result, the official bridge name is not posted on Interstate I-10. The official name ‘Horace Wilkinson Bridge’ is not widely known. In fact, representatives have unwittingly introduced bills to the legislature on several occasions proposing to give the bridge an official name not realizing that the bridge had already been named.
No Name Bridge

Baton Rouge, LA

#7 Mar 21, 2011
Tom. Here's another fine example of political misnaming. Do not do this to our parish. It may be difficult to stand up for what is right when there is so much political pressure, but please don't mess this up..

The Hale Boggs Memorial Bridge, also known as the Luling Bridge, was the first major cable stayed bridge to be built in the United States. The bridge is somewhat unusual for a cable stayed structure in that is has very few stay cables. In addition, the deck is built like a box girder, which is a much more robust structure than typically seen on suspended bridges.
No Name Bridge

Baton Rouge, LA

#8 Mar 21, 2011
Tom. Don't do it. The "Sunshine Bridge" is a bridge that people in this area even know. Please note Gov. Davis didn't think it would be wise to name the bridge after him.
Our bridge already has an easily recognized name. The Audubon.. Don't go changing it now. Please.

Sunshine Bridge
It was proposed that this bridge be named after Louisiana Governor James Davis. Davis, however, requested that the bridge be named the Sunshine Bridge rather than carry his name. In addition to being elected Governor in 1944 and 1960, Davis was also in the music industry. The bridge name was taken from his hit song ‘You Are My Sunshine’.
No Name Bridge

Baton Rouge, LA

#9 Mar 21, 2011
Go Tom wrote:
This is good news and makes more sense. Audubon is celebrated enough in this area!
These two great men of national stature grew up on either side of the river. Now these two lands will be joined by this bridge. This gives people even MORE reason to come to this area. The smart folks in tourism know this and support the renaming of the bridge.
The Zachary Taylor Parkway commission is sticking with the name because it was "their" pick many years ago, and the influence of a few key people who feel strongly about it on that commission. Not because it is the best choice.
A straw poll sampling legislators from the capitol region indicates the name change will very likely happen. The rest of the state will go along with whatever the capitol delegation decides it seems.
Congratulations, LeJeune-Barrow Bridge. The grand opening will occur possibly in late June or sometime in July and that is the name that will be in all the national news.
The smart folkes in tourism support and continue to support the name Audubon not LeJeune Barrow. Just as the smart group at the Zachary-Taylor Parkway council who promoted the building of this bridge. We can achieve international recognition through the Audubon Society.
http://www.audubon.org/

“Time flies like an arrow...”

Since: Mar 07

"fruit flies like a banana"

#10 Mar 21, 2011
No Name Bridge wrote:
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The smart folkes in tourism support and continue to support the name Audubon not LeJeune Barrow. Just as the smart group at the Zachary-Taylor Parkway council who promoted the building of this bridge. We can achieve international recognition through the Audubon Society.
http://www.audubon.org/
Please advise how the Audubon Society supports the naming of the bridge. I searched their website and could find NO mention of the bridge.

Also please expound on how international recognition can be achieved with one name rather than the other and what that recognition translates to in tangible terms.

I'm not proposing that LeJeune Barrow has any tangible benefits; however, if neither name does, why would we name a bridge after the Haitian-born illegitimate son of a French aristocrat rather than two locally-born, honorable men who served our country well?

“Danses avec des cocodrie”

Since: Jul 07

Saint Francisville, LA

#11 Mar 21, 2011
pragmatist wrote:
Thank you, Tom McVea.
I agree.
Self

Wilson, LA

#12 Mar 21, 2011
The bridge is so far along and although I agree with Tom, maybe we should have thought to change the name before now. How about naming the long roads on either side of the bridge General Robert Barrow Parkway on W.F. side and General John LeJeune parkway on P. C. side ? These roads could be beautifully landscaped and a memorial place on each side by the river to honor these fine men. Just a thought.
Wonder why

Saint Francisville, LA

#13 Mar 21, 2011
I can't believe, I am saying this, but I agree with Prag and Zoot! I guess if you communicate long enough there has to be some common ground. I also understand there exist some historical data that Audubon, did more than paint birds. He taught young ladies of the area more than how to put paint on canvas. It also provides the probable reason why his stay in Saint Francisville, was as they say SHORT.

Just think if Topix, would have been around in 1820, He could have been the subject of a TOPIX FORUM.(LOL)
Wonder Why

Saint Francisville, LA

#14 Mar 21, 2011
Self wrote:
The bridge is so far along and although I agree with Tom, maybe we should have thought to change the name before now. How about naming the long roads on either side of the bridge General Robert Barrow Parkway on W.F. side and General John LeJeune parkway on P. C. side ? These roads could be beautifully landscaped and a memorial place on each side by the river to honor these fine men. Just a thought.
Gen. Barrow was with us until a short while ago, and I think the idea of naming something for him while he was alive was restricted by either a Federal or State law. The naming of roads or any sub-set of anything after the Generals, would be a slap in the face to the supporters. These guys are first string, not honorable mention All Americans, also it was floated, by the Commission and immediately rejected by the supporters.
I am already, thinking of the next step to support Tourism. How about a LeJune - Barrow Marine Corp Museum as you come off of the new LeJune Barrow Bridge? I think the number of retired, active duty and military historians would want to visit. Where can I send my donation to the Louisiana Marine Corp LeJune Barrow Museum Fund?

I think you will find current tourism efforts by the EXPERTS is focused on the Civil War era, and only this era.
No Name Bridge

Baton Rouge, LA

#16 Mar 21, 2011
pragmatist wrote:
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Please advise how the Audubon Society supports the naming of the bridge. I searched their website and could find NO mention of the bridge.
Also please expound on how international recognition can be achieved with one name rather than the other and what that recognition translates to in tangible terms.
I'm not proposing that LeJeune Barrow has any tangible benefits; however, if neither name does, why would we name a bridge after the Haitian-born illegitimate son of a French aristocrat rather than two locally-born, honorable men who served our country well?
You are right Pragmatist. It was silly for me to write international recognition by calling it Audubon Bridge. I do however, feel strongly that the name LeJeune Barrow will be lost on this bridge. We have spent so much time on associating our parishes with Audubon. The name "Audubon" brings to mind nature and conservation. We are trying to develop our area as a naturalist area. Clean air, birds, Bambi, Thumper, tralalalala... We could tie in the Tunica Wildlife and waterfalls, Ziplines through the naturalist areas, Bicycle trails, Cat Island wildlife refuge so easily with Audubon. Destination weddings, Retirement villages.etc, clean air, safe living for our children.
War Generals is a whole other scenario. It changes things from "nature and singing birds" to "fighting and machine guns". To say we don't love General Barrow if we do not want to change the name of Audubon bridge to LeJeune Barrow Bridge is just not playing fair. Marines are fierce fighters... the fight is on and unfortunately for the good of these parishes, naturalist and tree hugers can't compete with wariors.
Please Uncle Tom... We can only plead with you, Don't change the name now...
Sick of Stupid

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#17 Mar 21, 2011
A new study shows that namin g civil engineering projects such as bridges and buildings typically costs taxpayers $1.2 million per name. I don't wnat my grandkids to have to pay for naming this bridge.
It should not be named or honor anyone it is far too costly
No Name Bridge

Baton Rouge, LA

#18 Mar 21, 2011
Sick of Stupid wrote:
A new study shows that namin g civil engineering projects such as bridges and buildings typically costs taxpayers $1.2 million per name. I don't wnat my grandkids to have to pay for naming this bridge.
It should not be named or honor anyone it is far too costly
This one has already been named. It is called the Audubon Bridge.
There is a group that is trying to force the name change
Wonder Why

Metairie, LA

#19 Mar 21, 2011
No Name Bridge wrote:
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This one has already been named. It is called the Audubon Bridge.
There is a group that is trying to force the name change
You are absolutely right! That group is called Americans! Unlike the small group called the Zachary Taylor Parkway Commission, I think the Americans outnumber the Commissioners and the Audubon supporters. If, I also remember correctly, Americans believe in Democracy, and majority rule. There are so few times when that really happens in todays world, that the renaming would also be a victory for the way things should work. Games set Match!
Sick of Stupid

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#20 Mar 21, 2011
To force this name change of an already named structure, public moneys my grandchildren are giong to have to pay back are being spent.

I understand the importance though.

Audubon has been honored enough for his "accomplishments" in natural sciences. He would most likely use his animal research to support the ludacris theory of global warming.
I don't believe he ever served in an American military branch either.

Only real Americans who are proud to burn oil at any cost should have a bridge named after them.

I'll explain the importance of this to my grandchildren and try to get them into the workforce as early as possible so they can pay taxes that will fund this expensive but truly important quest.
American Zachary Taylor

Baton Rouge, LA

#21 Mar 21, 2011
Wonder Why wrote:
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You are absolutely right! That group is called Americans! Unlike the small group called the Zachary Taylor Parkway Commission, I think the Americans outnumber the Commissioners and the Audubon supporters. If, I also remember correctly, Americans believe in Democracy, and majority rule. There are so few times when that really happens in todays world, that the renaming would also be a victory for the way things should work. Games set Match!
Sorry, Wonder Why. I didn't mean to bring the fight and anger out in you. If you want to get into a majority rule/deomcracy on the naming of this bridge, perhaps you should consider voting on naming it the Ronald Reagan Bridge. General Barrow served under him. Ronald Reagan was the leader of this wonderful free nation we call America. I believe there would be a tremendous number of great soliders's names that we could consider renaming the bridge after. The Audubon name was chosen over 10 years ago because of the association with wildlife and nature conservation. The bridge and parkway are intended to help support beautification of our bridges and roadways. I don't think the people who want this named after General LeJeune are any more American than the people who want to keep the chosen name of Audubon. Political name bashing is unnecessary. You are no more American than the large groups who feel the name should be left alone. It is very wrong of you to suggest that the citizens who give their time working on the Zachary Taylor Parkway are unAmerican. I don't think the members of the Audubon Society are unAmerican or any less American than you. Many, many of these people are soldiers and POWs. I wonder if this is a point of view taken by Mr. Tom McVea. The Marines are very successful, boisterous group at pushing their will on others, but I don't think General Barrow would support any demoralizing of citizens of West Feliciana for continuing to support what he referred to as Audubon's Happyland. This has been turned in to some type of political issue and most people are afraid to say anything out of fear of being called unAmerican. What a shame.
Wonder Why

Metairie, LA

#22 Mar 21, 2011
American ZT, I am not angry and don't want a fight! It is twenty years of being in the military, blunt, Politically Incorrect and To the Point! 90% of ex and retired Military folks operate this way everyday, and in everything they do. "Getter Done Son" is our mode of operation.
I respect everything you said and your right to say it, now "Getter Done Son"!!!

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