Virginia May Require Ultrasound Before Abortion

Feb 18, 2012 Full story: KSFO AM 560 39

Virginia is set to add itself to a list of seven states that require woman to get an ultrasound before receiving an abortion.

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Mountain

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#1 Feb 18, 2012
More than just an ultrasound, a "vaginal ultrasound".

These legislators are just sick, perverted f@cks.

Now just to be fair and balanced, we now need to consider passing a law that says these same geezers need a needle shoved up their d!cks before they get their next viagra prescription refilled.

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#2 Feb 18, 2012
Trans-vaginal ultrasounds are only performed during very early pregnancies.Non-vaginal ultrasounds are performed for later pregnancies to view the fetal development.Personally,I find nothing objectionable.

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imaginaryfriend

Garden City, MI

#3 Feb 20, 2012
This is a torture device as republicans are restarting the Inquisition. Women have lost their personhood. Next they'll begin the witch hunts. Seriously, they are stark raving mad. I was very proud to see the silent demonstration of women on national news. Stand tall against the little boys (R) in your state capitol.

Since: Nov 11

Gastonia, NC

#4 Feb 20, 2012
Pro-"life" is just fancy talk for pro-fascism. Government mandatory trans-vaginal ultrasounds is more proof that "lifers" want to erode as much liberty as possible to protect their precious fetuses.

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#5 Feb 21, 2012
People in Virginia are getting a real eye opener as to what this radical Republican Party is doing all over the country. It's one thing to be against abortion but quite another to even want to take away birth control that prevents the very thing they are fighting against.

This has become a war on women, womens health, womens rights. Funny how none of these Republicans legislators are complaining about insurance and Medicare paying for Viagra or the cute little "pump" for the fella's that our insurance pays for.

Get rid of these clowns and you'll get rid of the problems they have created.
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Clarks Summit, PA

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Hidden in Plain Sight

Barnesville, OH

#7 Feb 26, 2012
Babylon_Drifter wrote:
Pro-"life" is just fancy talk for pro-fascism. Government mandatory trans-vaginal ultrasounds is more proof that "lifers" want to erode as much liberty as possible to protect their precious fetuses.
"Babalon" here refers to the religion of human sacrifice practiced in ancient Babylon. It is no secret that the Pro-Life movement is religiously motivated, the fact is the pro-abortion leadership is motivated by religion also. The difference is that the religious practices of the pro-abortion fanatics are so sick and perverse that they practice it in secrecy.
Not Invasive

Palmyra, VA

#8 Feb 29, 2012
Mountain wrote:
More than just an ultrasound, a "vaginal ultrasound".
These legislators are just sick, perverted f@cks.
Now just to be fair and balanced, we now need to consider passing a law that says these same geezers need a needle shoved up their d!cks before they get their next viagra prescription refilled.
It's not invasive. EVERY pregnant woman has one if it is too early to see the baby through a belly ultrasound. If you are havingan abortion and seeing your baby is going to make you feel guilty then don't have an abortion.
pbfa

United States

#9 Feb 29, 2012
During a transvaginal ultrasound, an inflexible plastic probe is forced into the vagina. It is painful & in the case of the majority of women getting abortions, medically unnecessary. It (& the jelly on the belly) also don't stop abortions:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/06/study-u...
This is a form of state-mandated rape, expressing the contempt these male legislators feel for women. Women make these difficult decisions a full moral agents, aware of exactly what they're doing & why they've made their decisions. This effort is just another way to demean, minimize and coerce women.
Not Invasive

Palmyra, VA

#10 Feb 29, 2012
pbfa wrote:
During a transvaginal ultrasound, an inflexible plastic probe is forced into the vagina. It is painful & in the case of the majority of women getting abortions, medically unnecessary. It (& the jelly on the belly) also don't stop abortions:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/06/study-u...
This is a form of state-mandated rape, expressing the contempt these male legislators feel for women. Women make these difficult decisions a full moral agents, aware of exactly what they're doing & why they've made their decisions. This effort is just another way to demean, minimize and coerce women.
As I said before. I have had two children and when they needed to see my children around 4 - 6 weeks pregnant, they used this transvaginal ultrasound. It's not invasive and it hurt as much as a pap smear.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#11 Feb 29, 2012
Not Invasive wrote:
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As I said before. I have had two children and when they needed to see my children around 4 - 6 weeks pregnant, they used this transvaginal ultrasound. It's not invasive and it hurt as much as a pap smear.
There is no reason for a woman who chooses abortion to have this procedure. This is simply an invasive intrusion mandated by government.

In your case you were choosing to go forward with your pregnancy, so you consented.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#12 Feb 29, 2012
Not Invasive wrote:
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It's not invasive. EVERY pregnant woman has one if it is too early to see the baby through a belly ultrasound. If you are havingan abortion and seeing your baby is going to make you feel guilty then don't have an abortion.
if you choose to have an abortion there is no need for this procedure.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#13 Feb 29, 2012
Hidden in Plain Sight wrote:
<quoted text>"It is no secret that the Pro-Life movement is religiously motivated, the fact is the pro-abortion leadership is motivated by religion also. The difference is that the religious practices of the pro-abortion fanatics are so sick and perverse that they practice it in secrecy.
You are right it is no secret that the anti choice movement is religiously motivated and you are right they practice their misogyny right out in the open.

“Beauty on four legs”

Since: Sep 06

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#14 Feb 29, 2012
Not Invasive wrote:
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As I said before. I have had two children and when they needed to see my children around 4 - 6 weeks pregnant, they used this transvaginal ultrasound. It's not invasive and it hurt as much as a pap smear.
So you don't think shoving a plastic rod into your vagina (especially if you don't want it there) is invasive? Alrighty then.
I would hate to hear your perspective on rape.

“Beauty on four legs”

Since: Sep 06

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#15 Feb 29, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
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You are right it is no secret that the anti choice movement is religiously motivated and you are right they practice their misogyny right out in the open.
Well, sunshine is the best disinfectant.
Not Invasive

Palmyra, VA

#16 Feb 29, 2012
pbfa wrote:
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So you don't think shoving a plastic rod into your vagina (especially if you don't want it there) is invasive? Alrighty then.
I would hate to hear your perspective on rape.
The reason they are doing it is to date the pregnancy so it is needed. Rape is totally different. You're insane if you actually think anyone would think there's a justification for rape ever. If I have strep throat, I know I have it and I'd prefer that the doctor just give me the medicine BUT s/he has to do the disgusting throat culture which hurts much worse than a transvaginal ultrasound. I don't want it but I need it to continue with my medical procedure. Same with this. You want an abortion, let the doctor check everything out so that at least you come out alive.

Since: Nov 11

Gastonia, NC

#17 Mar 2, 2012
Not Invasive wrote:
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The reason they are doing it is to date the pregnancy so it is needed. Rape is totally different. You're insane if you actually think anyone would think there's a justification for rape ever. If I have strep throat, I know I have it and I'd prefer that the doctor just give me the medicine BUT s/he has to do the disgusting throat culture which hurts much worse than a transvaginal ultrasound. I don't want it but I need it to continue with my medical procedure. Same with this. You want an abortion, let the doctor check everything out so that at least you come out alive.
But there is no legislative force that coercions doctors to check the back of your throat and why would there need to be? If a transvaginal ultrasound is necessary then there is no need for a government mandate to force this upon medical institutions. The supposed merits of said procedure would be enough for doctors to use it regularly without coercion.

The very fact that solely activists, and not doctors, are forcing this mandate reveals there are more sinister motives involved here.

Since: Nov 11

Gastonia, NC

#18 Mar 2, 2012
Hidden in Plain Sight wrote:
<quoted text>"Babalon" here refers to the religion of human sacrifice practiced in ancient Babylon. It is no secret that the Pro-Life movement is religiously motivated, the fact is the pro-abortion leadership is motivated by religion also. The difference is that the religious practices of the pro-abortion fanatics are so sick and perverse that they practice it in secrecy.
And human sacrifice isn't practiced in the bible? Were you going somewhere with this?
Not Invasive

Palmyra, VA

#19 Mar 2, 2012
Babylon_Drifter wrote:
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But there is no legislative force that coercions doctors to check the back of your throat and why would there need to be? If a transvaginal ultrasound is necessary then there is no need for a government mandate to force this upon medical institutions. The supposed merits of said procedure would be enough for doctors to use it regularly without coercion.
The very fact that solely activists, and not doctors, are forcing this mandate reveals there are more sinister motives involved here.
they do use it regularly… they have to make a law because people are using abortion as birth control and not a risky medical procedure that should be thought out andnot acted upon on impulse.
pbfa

United States

#20 Mar 3, 2012
Not Invasive wrote:
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they do use it regularly… they have to make a law because people are using abortion as birth control and not a risky medical procedure that should be thought out andnot acted upon on impulse.
Do you really think women chose surgery over BC? I've never seen any actual evidence that women use abortion in place of BC.(Anecdotes about some girl you heard your brother's girlfriend's sister talking about in HS are not evidence).
Abortion is much less risky than pregnancy & giving birth. Do the research.
Why don't you understand that women do think about it before they make the appointments, show up, and climb on that table? Women, despite your opinion, are moral agents, capable of making their own decisions about their own lives.
If a doctor (you, know, a trained health professional) sees a medical need for an US, then it will be provided. No government coercion is needed. It is only when it is unnecessary for any medical reason that the state thinks it needs to put roadblocks in the way of women exercising their rights. Shoving an invasive plastic device into the vagina without a medical need & without her permission is just another way to make the process even more difficult for women. Gov TS will never recover from being exposed as the misogynist that he is.

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