Dumler Resigns from Albemarle Board of Supervisors

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After months of calls for resignation and a trial to determine whether or not he has neglected his duties, an embattled Albemarle County Supervisor has resigned from his position on the board.
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Get a Grip

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#128
Jun 7, 2013
 
Virginia Pollack wrote:
Oh Chris, I am so glad to see that you are on vacation and went home to see your mother. She will be your rock, as only a mother can be.
And she must be ever so proud.
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How could he resign? Who will we have to hate on in our self rightious indignation now? He could have at least stayed long enough for us to turn it into a campaign issue!
Cvillian

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If anyone thinks that Dumler's woes are over, you'd be wrong. Local women are outraged that our President has called for sex abusers in the military to be tried, imprisoned, or at least drummed out of the service. Well, here's Captain Dumler serving in the U S Army Reserves who is a convicted sex offender serving jail time and who is still a Captain in the Army! Veterans and active duty military are angry because his behavior and continued service in the Army Reserves casts a bad light on their group, and by association, their service. They are calling for his "separation" from the Army (aka less than honorable discharge). If Dumler is smart, he will resign, or find himself dishonorably discharged.

Women, Chris! You can't live with them, and you can't sexually batter them.
Bollocks

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#131
Jun 7, 2013
 
Cvillian wrote:
If anyone thinks that Dumler's woes are over, you'd be wrong. Local women are outraged that our President has called for sex abusers in the military to be tried, imprisoned, or at least drummed out of the service. Well, here's Captain Dumler serving in the U S Army Reserves who is a convicted sex offender serving jail time and who is still a Captain in the Army! Veterans and active duty military are angry because his behavior and continued service in the Army Reserves casts a bad light on their group, and by association, their service. They are calling for his "separation" from the Army (aka less than honorable discharge). If Dumler is smart, he will resign, or find himself dishonorably discharged.
Women, Chris! You can't live with them, and you can't sexually batter them.
Figured you wouldn't stop at the political level. Would you like him executed too or is that just your bloodthirsty appetite welling up again?
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#132
Jun 7, 2013
 
Concerned Mom wrote:
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No. Their points are stupid.
And without discussing why of course, you don't help yours gain any ground either. Good luck with that position.
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Hey Bollocks! It was [never] political! This is about women and their rights to safety. Given our President's recent statement about sex abusers in the military and how they have to be prosecuted and imprisoned or at least discharged, I do not think my attitude about this is out of the mainstream. Watch and learn.

I will be working to establish the Dumler Law, that is, the amendments to the current statute that would add sex crimes to the list of reasons why a person can be removed from public office. Did you know that an elected official can molest (fondle) a 14-year old, be convicted, and not be removed from office, nor face recall?

Bloodthirsty appetite my foot. Reasonable all the way. Sex offenders do no belong in the military (said President Obama), and they don't belong in public office either (says almost everyone I have listened to).
Bollocks

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#134
Jun 10, 2013
 
I care about safety and justice as much as the next person, but I don't dare throw my representatives under the wheels of the bus when some claim is made out of the blue. Nobody should operate that way. I could only imagine the helplessness you'd feel if you were in the same boat as a politician in the midst of an accusation like this. If somebody makes a claim against you, there is no defense or hiding from it. Frustration, confusion and helplessness springs to mind. You don't have money to support your legal coverage, your supporters who follow you ditch you at the first sign of challenge. It makes sense as to why- we all like the clean, scandal-free politicians, but they all have personal lives too and jobs on the side. He's out of the office now and the JAG has little involvement in the community. So what's the big deal with repeatedly harassing them?
I understand and respect your zero tolerance for sex abuse and other crimes of a similar degree, but I don't believe the allegations actually happened in this particular case, at least to the degree they were alleged to. I don't know how I could, honestly, nor any other person draw a conclusion from what was a he said/she said telltale. The details of the case were contorted and twisted through the media and public opinion and snowballed to pick up even the most politically aloof citizens in the community who couldn't have given a damn less of their county representatives. It's a no brainer that every one of them don't find sex abuse a laughing matter, and sadly, that may just be the avenue that unites them all. There was frankly such a ridiculous amount of vocal opposition and "I knew its" the day the arrest hit the news that it made me sick to my stomach that the community really forgets the process of a legal system. Once your arrest hits the news, you're done in the eyes of the ignorant. As the opposition increased to dramatic heights through the months my frustration turned to suspicion. Suspicion that there may be an ulterior motive to getting Dumler out of his board seat.
I think Dumler was legally embattled to a point where he could no longer afford physically or mentally to keep up with the fight and had to give in to something, and not necessarily due to an admission of guilt. Our legal system has given a great deal of authority to those who have the money, power and time to abuse it so they can mold their community to their standards and weed out those who they don't agree with. You just need the right leverage to pull the strings and get everybody on board. You may not have personally had political drivings in this case, but the depth of politically charged furor over this case and even the months preceding the arrest were far too suspicious to suspect any other motive for the majority of the vocal opposition. I find this to be one of the most abominable and disgusting political takedowns of my lifetime. And if it was ever revealed to be a bogus stint, I hope that the perpetrators would come forward and make it right, not just to Dumler, whose life is probably ruined, but to the community they shortchanged as well.
I sincerely wish you good luck with your law, I hope it goes forward and I don't mind stricter penalties for those who are convicted of sex crimes, but you're going to find that it's not such a fine line between what passes and doesn't pass the parameters of what you consider acceptable, as well as the society around you- you may just find that it creates more hassle and confusion than our current laws on the matter do. And when you get frustrated with the next person who is accused of a middle ground between doing nothing and the allegations of this case, I expect that find people just as fussy about it next time. And that's why I value democracy second to a rigid law system- I don't like to let the loudest individual get their way, because being loud isn't always being right. We need to have a rigid structure in order to properly maintain society.
Where is your Lantern

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Jun 11, 2013
 
Bollocks wrote:
[SNIP]...but the depth of politically charged furor over this case and even the months preceding the arrest were far too suspicious to suspect any other motive for the majority of the vocal opposition.[SNIP]
Care to enlighten us on the "politically charged furor" that occurred during the months preceding Mr. Dumler's arrest? Was this yet another vast right-wing plot perpetrated by the Tea Party that forced Mr. Dumler to commit sexual battery? Or was this simply a set-up (see Marion Barry for details)? Thinking this was some sort of conspiracy is a new low, even for you, the esteemed Mr. Bollocks.

You do make a valid point, though, in calling this a "political takedown." In this case, the political process worked, a sorry excuse for a politician was encouraged to resign, and the people emerged victorious. I think your only real complaint here is that a liberal politician was taken-down. Would you feel the same if a conservative was the target? How do you reconcile this with the attacks on Virginia's conservative AG and Gov? Hypocrisy?
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#136
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Care to enlighten us on the "politically charged furor" that occurred during the months preceding Mr. Dumler's arrest? Was this yet another vast right-wing plot perpetrated by the Tea Party that forced Mr. Dumler to commit sexual battery? Or was this simply a set-up (see Marion Barry for details)? Thinking this was some sort of conspiracy is a new low, even for you, the esteemed Mr. Bollocks.
You do make a valid point, though, in calling this a "political takedown." In this case, the political process worked, a sorry excuse for a politician was encouraged to resign, and the people emerged victorious. I think your only real complaint here is that a liberal politician was taken-down. Would you feel the same if a conservative was the target? How do you reconcile this with the attacks on Virginia's conservative AG and Gov? Hypocrisy?
That actually isn't the "political process". People wanted to shortcut the political process in this particular case. The political process involves voting for or against a candidate when it comes to them serving again, not berating and harassing every avenue of their life until they throw in the towel. That's not a political process, thats an *ssh*le process. No hypocrisy done on my part. I'm actually a libertarian, but I do prefer to wait until a bad elect has served their term and then I simply don't vote for them again. I've got my fair share of bad apples I've kept my eye on, but I recognize and respect that the popular vote elected them into office, and I think they should remain until their term is up. Seems pretty simple, but even then there are people who believe certain individuals can't serve another day without "destroying their community" and then find sleazy, unconventional ways to force them out prematurely. Happens more often than you'd think.

Not sure what makes you think of the guy as a "sorry excuse for a politician". While I don't side with his party, I was pleasantly surprised with his communal involvement and dedication to his job, he clearly outshone his fellow board members in the level of work and communication he established with his community, something he demonstrated in full color during his civil trial. For a $15k a year part time job, I honestly expected much less, but he gave 110% to the job. Of course, the public doesn't look at those figures. That's all technical stuff and kind of boring for the simple-minded. Most people just look at the polarized news and cast their decisions from there.

There's a lot more to politics there than meets the eye, with newly elected Dumler being a swing vote between conservatives & liberals, usually voting in the direction of liberals. He didn't win the election by a landslide, there was already just shy of 50% of people who voted against him or for the other candidate, so just calculate it out. It makes sense that he would be a prime candidate for a scandal, a young, new face to the county is the perfect place to upset the board seat and bring a bit more power back to the other side.

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