Va governor signs pre-abortion ultrasound bill

Mar 10, 2012 Full story: The Las Vegas Sun 28

Abdominal ultrasounds for women seeking abortions in Virginia will become mandatory under a bill signed into law Wednesday by the state's Republican governor, who had faced a national uproar when earlier versions of the measure had sought to make the exams medically invasive.

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Jorja

Nellysford, VA

#22 Mar 17, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
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I disagree. For women to be FORCED to undergo an ultrasound before having an abortion, as well as the other points Jenny mentioned, IS a type of Sharia law, to me anyway.
And the repukelian "right" is making more laws that RESTRICT women's reproductive rights, which to me fits the same description.
The only reason that the original "transvaginal probe" which Gov. McDonnell proposed wasn't passed is because there was so much public outrage over it that he was forced to back down. This one isn't much better, and it's still an invasion of a woman's right to abort an unwanted pregnancy.
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell signed an unnecessary bill into law yesterday that will require women to receive an ultrasound before having an abortion. The legislature passed an amended version that did not require invasive transvaginal ultrasounds, but it still seems the new law runs counter to guidelines from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG). As Forbes’ Rick Ungar points out,“According to the ACOG, ultrasonography in pregnancy should be performed only when there is a valid medical indication.” But the Virginia law says an ultrasound is necessary to determine the fetus’ gestational age — not a listed reason from ACOG. Instead of leaving it up to a doctor, the state of Virginia’s new law now dictates what is a required procedure.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/09/44...

Virginia's Pre-Abortion Ultrasound Law Medically Unsound-Violates Guidelines of American College Of Obstetricians And Gynecologists
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/03...
Jorja

Nellysford, VA

#23 Mar 18, 2012
"politicians deploy faith as a cudgel, a reason to separate people, a means of imposing a morality on nonbelievers, an excuse for persecution."
http://hamptonroads.com/2012/02/when-ruled-re...

I think if a person of faith cannot keep his/her beliefs out of public policy-they need to find a new job. He/she is ONLY representing a few and not ALL.
JTM

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Mar 22, 2012
jenny623 wrote:
Viagara is covered, even Hannity defended the right for it to be covered, but blasted birth control. I find this to be an attack on women and I take this serious because of the hypocrisy. You may not like my comments, but I disagree with yours. Maybe you're not a female and no one is forcing anything on you. But we scream about too much goverment, then conservatives want to force women to have procedures they may not want or can afford. When the same treatment is given to men, then you can talk.
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I am a man and I am talking. Since when can a man not speak on women's issues? I had a mother. I have a wife. I have many colleagues who are women. I never stated that I was in favor of this law or argued in favor of it.

OK, I accept your point on Viagra even though it is a trivial one. If you can point me to the government information that states that Viagra is covered and when, then I'll let that one go. I've been all over the Medicare websites and don't see it.

Don't try to equate me with Hannity or any other shock jock who is not engaging in political discourse, but is instead trying to get ratings. As I said before, you don't have any grasp of Sharia law and what it truly does to women. I know refugees from these systems of law and their lives are nothing like ours. You ignore all the other points I made, so I'll go back to my original thesis.

Your hyperbole ignores and trivializes those women who live under Sharia. You think that because someone disagrees with your misinformed rants that they are the enemy.

Finally, are you serious about abortion as an alternative to the financial cost of a child? If so, then you do have something in common with those who advocate Sharia law and would destroy a life that does not fit with their plans. Look at all the women under Sharia who have been burned, stoned, drowned, or beheaded because they did not fit in with the social plans of the males. I know that sounds harsh, but you opened the door by making the comparison.

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#25 Mar 23, 2012
Like I said, you know nothing about having a procedure forced on your body. Women don't force laws on men, men force laws on women. That has to stop. No one is probing your body, but when the women in your life have to face more government control over their bodies, let's see how that affects you.
JTM wrote:
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I am a man and I am talking. Since when can a man not speak on women's issues? I had a mother. I have a wife. I have many colleagues who are women. I never stated that I was in favor of this law or argued in favor of it.
OK, I accept your point on Viagra even though it is a trivial one. If you can point me to the government information that states that Viagra is covered and when, then I'll let that one go. I've been all over the Medicare websites and don't see it.
Don't try to equate me with Hannity or any other shock jock who is not engaging in political discourse, but is instead trying to get ratings. As I said before, you don't have any grasp of Sharia law and what it truly does to women. I know refugees from these systems of law and their lives are nothing like ours. You ignore all the other points I made, so I'll go back to my original thesis.
Your hyperbole ignores and trivializes those women who live under Sharia. You think that because someone disagrees with your misinformed rants that they are the enemy.
Finally, are you serious about abortion as an alternative to the financial cost of a child? If so, then you do have something in common with those who advocate Sharia law and would destroy a life that does not fit with their plans. Look at all the women under Sharia who have been burned, stoned, drowned, or beheaded because they did not fit in with the social plans of the males. I know that sounds harsh, but you opened the door by making the comparison.
Jorja

Eagle Rock, VA

#26 Mar 23, 2012
JTM wrote:
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I am a man and I am talking. Since when can a man not speak on women's issues? I had a mother. I have a wife. I have many colleagues who are women. I never stated that I was in favor of this law or argued in favor of it.
OK, I accept your point on Viagra even though it is a trivial one. If you can point me to the government information that states that Viagra is covered and when, then I'll let that one go. I've been all over the Medicare websites and don't see it.
Don't try to equate me with Hannity or any other shock jock who is not engaging in political discourse, but is instead trying to get ratings. As I said before, you don't have any grasp of Sharia law and what it truly does to women. I know refugees from these systems of law and their lives are nothing like ours. You ignore all the other points I made, so I'll go back to my original thesis.
Your hyperbole ignores and trivializes those women who live under Sharia. You think that because someone disagrees with your misinformed rants that they are the enemy.
Finally, are you serious about abortion as an alternative to the financial cost of a child? If so, then you do have something in common with those who advocate Sharia law and would destroy a life that does not fit with their plans. Look at all the women under Sharia who have been burned, stoned, drowned, or beheaded because they did not fit in with the social plans of the males. I know that sounds harsh, but you opened the door by making the comparison.
"OK, I accept your point on Viagra even though it is a trivial one. If you can point me to the government information that states that Viagra is covered and when, then I'll let that one go. I've been all over the Medicare websites and don't see it."
Not sure about Medicare but it is covered by Medicaid-Viagra is a Medicaid approved drug and the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA) of 1990 requires states to cover all such medications. I am sure some 3rd party payers cover ED drugs or at least reimburse.

"Your hyperbole ignores and trivializes those women who live under Sharia. You think that because someone disagrees with your misinformed rants that they are the enemy"

I really don't think she "trivialized" those women..what I thought she meant (and she will correct me if I am mistaken) is that when you govern the people with religious beliefs you are dangerous and you are oppressive.(as in Sharia) Look what has happened to the gay community all in the name of religion-they are beaten up on a daily basis-have few or no rights and why ? Because the Bible says it's ok for them to do this? Religion and politics do not and should not mix...ever!
Jorja

Eagle Rock, VA

#27 Mar 23, 2012
JTM wrote:
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I am a man and I am talking. Since when can a man not speak on women's issues? I had a mother. I have a wife. I have many colleagues who are women. I never stated that I was in favor of this law or argued in favor of it.
OK, I accept your point on Viagra even though it is a trivial one. If you can point me to the government information that states that Viagra is covered and when, then I'll let that one go. I've been all over the Medicare websites and don't see it.
Don't try to equate me with Hannity or any other shock jock who is not engaging in political discourse, but is instead trying to get ratings. As I said before, you don't have any grasp of Sharia law and what it truly does to women. I know refugees from these systems of law and their lives are nothing like ours. You ignore all the other points I made, so I'll go back to my original thesis.
Your hyperbole ignores and trivializes those women who live under Sharia. You think that because someone disagrees with your misinformed rants that they are the enemy.
Finally, are you serious about abortion as an alternative to the financial cost of a child? If so, then you do have something in common with those who advocate Sharia law and would destroy a life that does not fit with their plans. Look at all the women under Sharia who have been burned, stoned, drowned, or beheaded because they did not fit in with the social plans of the males. I know that sounds harsh, but you opened the door by making the comparison.
I found this regarding Medicare:
Under the Medicare Part D program requirements, which all Part D private insurers are required to be equal or greater than, Viagra, or drugs for erectile dysfunction are not covered.

However, some Part D standalone plans or Medicare Advantage Plans with Prescription Drug Coverage (MA-PD's) provide value added benefits which include Viagra.
So regardng Medicare the answer is yes & no.
imaginaryfriend

Garden City, MI

#28 Mar 23, 2012
These RepuglyCON govs should all be required to test their probes on their own daughters, wives, and mothers first.
Jorja

Eagle Rock, VA

#29 Mar 25, 2012
Where the hell were these people when our gov was ramming the ultrasound down our throats!!! Once again the tea party radicals are serving only a few and not all.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/james-madison-is-t...
Gohmert reminded the crowd of Obama’s 2008 campaign threat to “fundamentally change” America and urged everyone to work for the “freedom we once had.”
He said the “real tyranny of Obamacare” was “crammed down our throats” by a minority in government, who forced it on the majority of Americans.“That is a tyranny of the minority, and it has to stop!”
Gohmert said his “prescription” to cure Obamacare is to exercise your right “to vote these people out of office” and elect real conservatives who will protect our rights.
THERE ARE MANY REPUBLICANS THAT NEED TO HEED THOSE WORDS.
Cuccinelli added that Obama and his administration are the “biggest set of law breakers” in American history.
Does this guy even know the law...in my mind, I do wonder. Seems he's on a mission to keep his face in the media, a political ladder..he cares for noone other than himself-his own sense of right & wrong and anyone who agrees with him...the rest of us are nothing to him.

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