Lawsuit Challenging Virginia's Gay Ma...

Lawsuit Challenging Virginia's Gay Marriage Ban Heads To Court

There are 10 comments on the CBS Local story from Oct 29, 2013, titled Lawsuit Challenging Virginia's Gay Marriage Ban Heads To Court. In it, CBS Local reports that:

Lawyers for the two Shenandoah Valley couples who filed the lawsuit are asking a federal judge to certify the case as a class action representing all same-sex couples in the state.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Oct 29, 2013
Judges have been very reticent to declare same-sex couples a class, but maybe this time will be different. No harm in trying.
Pierre

France

#2 Oct 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Judges have been very reticent to declare same-sex couples a class, but maybe this time will be different. No harm in trying.
I declare them a class. Low.

Since: Mar 09

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#3 Oct 29, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Judges have been very reticent to declare same-sex couples a class, but maybe this time will be different. No harm in trying.
Of course they haven't. That would lead almost immediately to Suspect Classification. Then we'd have the whole ballgame.

They stalled on it because we WERE learning the legal and political ropes, and they were hoping that by the time any of our significant cases reached the highest Court they could point to that acquired acumen and support ... and discount the rest.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 Oct 29, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Of course they haven't. That would lead almost immediately to Suspect Classification. Then we'd have the whole ballgame.
They stalled on it because we WERE learning the legal and political ropes, and they were hoping that by the time any of our significant cases reached the highest Court they could point to that acquired acumen and support ... and discount the rest.
In the end it won't really make any difference if we have suspect classification or not.

At this point it's only a matter of when, not if the remaining bans are overturned by the SCOTUS.

Since: Mar 09

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#5 Oct 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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In the end it won't really make any difference if we have suspect classification or not.
At this point it's only a matter of when, not if the remaining bans are overturned by the SCOTUS.
So it would seem, but remember that I'm a stormcrow.

We have yet to see the backlash.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Oct 30, 2013
snyper wrote:
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So it would seem, but remember that I'm a stormcrow.
We have yet to see the backlash.
Obviously you missed the '04 & '06 elections.

That WAS the backlash.

It's over.

Since: Mar 09

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#7 Oct 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Obviously you missed the '04 & '06 elections.
That WAS the backlash.
It's over.
Wanna lay a friendly bet?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Oct 30, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Wanna lay a friendly bet?
Sure.

You'll have to clarify what your definition of a backlash would be.

My definition would be if any states which currently allow same-sex couples to marry go back to banning them. Or if the anti-gays get Congress to pass the FMA. Or if all those Congressmen who support marriage equality lose their reelection because of that position.

'04 & '06 were definitely backlash elections, especially at the state level.

Since: Mar 09

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#9 Oct 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Sure.
You'll have to clarify what your definition of a backlash would be.
My definition would be if any states which currently allow same-sex couples to marry go back to banning them. Or if the anti-gays get Congress to pass the FMA. Or if all those Congressmen who support marriage equality lose their reelection because of that position.
'04 & '06 were definitely backlash elections, especially at the state level.
All but the first. It will be a Federal takeover fight with the religious right as shock troop puppets. 2014 will be a HoR groundholding fight and some gains in Senate. The big pushes will be the off-year locals and '14 States where the young do not tend to come out to vote.

'16 is going to be the ugliest ever seen.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#10 Oct 30, 2013
snyper wrote:
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All but the first. It will be a Federal takeover fight with the religious right as shock troop puppets. 2014 will be a HoR groundholding fight and some gains in Senate. The big pushes will be the off-year locals and '14 States where the young do not tend to come out to vote.
'16 is going to be the ugliest ever seen.
I don't see it as a backlash unless we actually lose something as a result.

What do you think we're going to lose?

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