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House-Controlled Subcommittee Considers Gun Legislation

There are 84 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jan 15, 2013, titled House-Controlled Subcommittee Considers Gun Legislation. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Several pieces of gun legislation filed by lawmakers in the Virginia House of Delegates are dead on arrival.

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County Resident

Raleigh, NC

#41 Jan 18, 2013
citizen wrote:
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Were it not for gun nuts that knew how to use firearms you, Ice Dogg and others would now be speaking German, Japanese or Russian (had we lost the Cold War).
Hmm, maybe not a totally bad idea..........
You fool...you are talking about the military. Civilians did not win WWII, nor defend the United States from their homes with AK47s.
Hello math majors

Middle River, MD

#42 Jan 18, 2013
Actually, civilian held weaponry was enough for Admiral Yamoto to convince the Emporer to discontinue plans for an attack on our mainland. Something about "A gun behind every blade of grass."

Not much of a history student, are you?
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#43 Jan 18, 2013
Hello math majors wrote:
Actually, civilian held weaponry was enough for Admiral Yamoto to convince the Emporer to discontinue plans for an attack on our mainland. Something about "A gun behind every blade of grass."
Not much of a history student, are you?
Thank goodness we didn't learn from the 'gun nut history of the world'.

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
It has been declared this attribution is "unsubstantiated and almost certainly bogus, even though it has been repeated thousands of times in various Internet postings. There is no record of the commander in chief of Japanís wartime fleet ever saying it.", according to Brooks Jackson in "Misquoting Yamamoto" at Factcheck.org (11 May 2009)"

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isoroku_Yamamoto
frmr

Troy, VA

#44 Jan 18, 2013
iwargo wrote:
if you are kill by a gun you have the republicans to thank
and all those pesky, dumb Founding Fathers! What a stupid thing to say, Iwargo.
Colt 45

Warrenton, VA

#45 Jan 18, 2013
County Resident wrote:
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You fool...you are talking about the military. Civilians did not win WWII, nor defend the United States from their homes with AK47s.
Have you ever heard the saying "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool
than to open it and remove all doubt" well your statement above certainly proves this saying beyond a shadow of doubt.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#46 Jan 18, 2013
Colt 45 wrote:
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How can you say no one is outlawing gun ownership when that's exactly what some are trying to do,what do you call banning the AR -15 and similar types of guns,These are rifles just like any other rifle.No different than a Remington,Winchester,Browning, Savage,Mossberg
or any of the other manufactors.The people who committed these crimes could have done the same with any of the above rifles or pistols,which they had anyway.
???

I'll just say it again. Get a grip.

a) they are not rifles "just like any other rifle."

b) as far as I know you're not allowed to own RPG's and nuclear warheads.

Trying to do things like keep certain kinds of weapons out of easy consumer reach is a really large and far cry from banning guns and subverting the 2nd amendment.

And for what its worth, I neither support nor oppose bans on such things as the AR-15. I am neither into guns nor afraid of them. My point is that its simply NOT what people are making it out to be.
WVU

Purcellville, VA

#47 Jan 18, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
If you want to know what brought Hitler & Mussolini to the world - it was hysterical, paranoid, irrationality.
Since you apparently have failed to study history, allow me to help you understand what Hitler and Mussolina brought to the world. It was a bit more than " hysterical, paranoid, irrationality."
These two men caused the murder of over 5.2 million people. They were killed, abused, tortured and incinerated in a number unspeakable of ways.
Strangely all these persons were disarmed several years before their murders.
Colt 45

Burr Hill, VA

#48 Jan 18, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
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???
I'll just say it again. Get a grip.
a) they are not rifles "just like any other rifle."
b) as far as I know you're not allowed to own RPG's and nuclear warheads.
Trying to do things like keep certain kinds of weapons out of easy consumer reach is a really large and far cry from banning guns and subverting the 2nd amendment.
And for what its worth, I neither support nor oppose bans on such things as the AR-15. I am neither into guns nor afraid of them. My point is that its simply NOT what people are making it out to be.
A. Tell me why they are not rifles.
And for what its worth I do not own a AR-15,But to ban a firearm just because a couple of nut cases used this particular type of rifle does not make any sense to me,They could have used pistols just like the Va Tech shooter did,he killed more people than the Aurora or the Connecticut shooter.

Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#49 Jan 18, 2013
WVU wrote:
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Since you apparently have failed to study history, allow me to help you understand what Hitler and Mussolina brought to the world. It was a bit more than " hysterical, paranoid, irrationality."
These two men caused the murder of over 5.2 million people. They were killed, abused, tortured and incinerated in a number unspeakable of ways.
Strangely all these persons were disarmed several years before their murders.
Holy cow. You're going to "educate" me on history? You can't even understand what I wrote. I DID NOT write that these kinds of characters BROUGHT the hysterical, paranoid, irrationality. I said EXACTLY the reverse. It was the hysterical, paranoid, irrationality that ALLOWED the rise of the likes of Hitler & Mussolini.

These guys were leaders of mass movements -as in the mass of the populations of Germany & Italy lined right up behind them enthusiastically. These guys did not single handedly produce all of those terrors you mention. They rode waves of mass "hysterical, paranoid, irrationality" - its what gave them their power - its what we have growing in the US right now.

twit. Don't lecture me on it. You can't read, apparently, and I figure your own understanding of it is probably about as sophisticated as a 3rd grade textbook.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#50 Jan 18, 2013
Colt 45 wrote:
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A. Tell me why they are not rifles.
And for what its worth I do not own a AR-15,But to ban a firearm just because a couple of nut cases used this particular type of rifle does not make any sense to me,They could have used pistols just like the Va Tech shooter did,he killed more people than the Aurora or the Connecticut shooter.
You are correct. It's unfortunate we liberals make the mistake of using the term rifle when we mean a weapon that accepts limited bullets, but that is not the case, since some 'rifles' accept high capacity magazines and are capable of rapid fire (assault).
We should be concentrating on banning high capacity magazines that allow crazees to spray up to a hundred rounds per minute without reloading.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#51 Jan 18, 2013
Colt 45 wrote:
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A. Tell me why they are not rifles.
And for what its worth I do not own a AR-15,But to ban a firearm just because a couple of nut cases used this particular type of rifle does not make any sense to me,They could have used pistols just like the Va Tech shooter did,he killed more people than the Aurora or the Connecticut shooter.
I didn't say it wasn't a rifle. I said its not a "rifle just like any other rifle."

Plenty of stuff doesn't make sense in terms of what is done in our political system. People tend to blame it on politicians. I say just look around and see what your fellow citizens think and have to say about things. The outcome of political activity, to the extent that it looks pretty bad and irrational is, in one way or another, a reflection on all of us out here. That, I suppose, is one of the reasons that I am neither screaming for or against gun control. What I find coming from people on both ends is clearly silly.

On the other hand, I know a guy who is a long time family friend. He's basically a libertarian in most respects. He loves guns, and collects them. He actually got a dealer's license just to make it easier for him to be a collector. He's got an arsenal of wonderful, beautiful guns. He has to get regular "check-up" visits to his home by ATF agents. He is one of the biggest whiners about the government I know. Yet, while checking out his collection recently and chatting he said that while he'd never bring it up at the local gun club, he has no issue with existing gun laws in his state - stuff like background checks, certain kinds of assault-type restrictions, etc. That kind of person is a sane citizen.
Colt 45

Burr Hill, VA

#52 Jan 18, 2013
huck wrote:
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You are correct. It's unfortunate we liberals make the mistake of using the term rifle when we mean a weapon that accepts limited bullets, but that is not the case, since some 'rifles' accept high capacity magazines and are capable of rapid fire (assault).
We should be concentrating on banning high capacity magazines that allow crazees to spray up to a hundred rounds per minute without reloading.
What's unfortunate is that we have to put labels on ourselves when
first we are humans,whether here in the US or the other side of the world we all bleed red,But I'am getting off topic,The most reliable magazines are those that hold no more than 20 rounds of ammo,The 30 to 100 round mags are nothing but junk to begin with.
Colt 45

Burr Hill, VA

#53 Jan 18, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
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I didn't say it wasn't a rifle. I said its not a "rifle just like any other rifle."
Plenty of stuff doesn't make sense in terms of what is done in our political system. People tend to blame it on politicians. I say just look around and see what your fellow citizens think and have to say about things. The outcome of political activity, to the extent that it looks pretty bad and irrational is, in one way or another, a reflection on all of us out here. That, I suppose, is one of the reasons that I am neither screaming for or against gun control. What I find coming from people on both ends is clearly silly.
On the other hand, I know a guy who is a long time family friend. He's basically a libertarian in most respects. He loves guns, and collects them. He actually got a dealer's license just to make it easier for him to be a collector. He's got an arsenal of wonderful, beautiful guns. He has to get regular "check-up" visits to his home by ATF agents. He is one of the biggest whiners about the government I know. Yet, while checking out his collection recently and chatting he said that while he'd never bring it up at the local gun club, he has no issue with existing gun laws in his state - stuff like background checks, certain kinds of assault-type restrictions, etc. That kind of person is a sane citizen.
I have no problem with background checks either,while it makes buying or selling to a friend or private individual inconvenient if it will help I am all for it,But if your friend really feels this way than he should try and convince his gun buddies that are against background checks to change their mind.As far as the sane citizen, we never know who or when someone's mind will go off the deep end.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#54 Jan 18, 2013
Colt 45 wrote:
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What's unfortunate is that we have to put labels on ourselves when
first we are humans,whether here in the US or the other side of the world we all bleed red,But I'am getting off topic,The most reliable magazines are those that hold no more than 20 rounds of ammo,The 30 to 100 round mags are nothing but junk to begin with.
Well then, I guess 20 dependable kills is better than 100 possible ones.
Colt 45

Burr Hill, VA

#55 Jan 18, 2013
huck wrote:
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Well then, I guess 20 dependable kills is better than 100 possible ones.
No,the point is I can switch 5- 10 to 20 rd.mags in less than 15 seconds.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#56 Jan 18, 2013
Colt 45 wrote:
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No,the point is I can switch 5- 10 to 20 rd.mags in less than 15 seconds.
Those crazees will have to practice to keep up with your magazine skills.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#57 Jan 18, 2013
Hi cap mags or a red herring. The issue is guns. Back ground checks? please. Straw purchases happen all the time and will continue.
Whats real is what someone else posted and has been reported that a gun in some gun nuts home is 43 times more likely to be discharged at an innocent person. So live with that gun mob.
Colt 45

Burr Hill, VA

#58 Jan 18, 2013
huck wrote:
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Those crazees will have to practice to keep up with your magazine skills.
How so?anyone one can do the same thing with a few minutes practice.
sbc308

Charlottesville, VA

#59 Jan 19, 2013
iwargo wrote:
if you are kill by a gun you have the republicans to thank
And if you are killed by a knife, thud or bomb you have the Democrates to thank!!!!!!!
sbc308

Charlottesville, VA

#60 Jan 19, 2013
I would like to see a list of killings done by persons leagally caring a gun and had CCW. Do any of you gun control nuts know where I might find one?

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