Redford, Richardson fight against hor...

Redford, Richardson fight against horse slaughter

There are 17 comments on the Seattle Times story from Jul 22, 2013, titled Redford, Richardson fight against horse slaughter. In it, Seattle Times reports that:

Robert Redford and former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson on Monday joined the divisive debate against a return to domestic horse slaughter, announcing the formation of an animal protection foundation to fight the opening of plants in New Mexico and Iowa.

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Sheik Yerbouti

Doylestown, PA

#2 Jul 22, 2013
Eighthman wrote:
Moochelle is a horse.
A horse PIG to be more exact.
Like ManBearPig.
Only she's a WomanHorsePig.
And she talks to unicorns.
They graze with her on the South lawn.
They talk about fat free ice creme and cheese-steaks.
Then they go plant vegetables in the human manure compost that Bill Clinton had spread around the White House.
Remember THAT ONE.
Too Funny.
Too Stupid.
WomanHorsePigs aren't very smart I'm afraid.
A MENSA member you're not!!

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#3 Jul 22, 2013
Eighthman wrote:
Moochelle is a horse.
A horse PIG to be more exact.
Like ManBearPig.
Only she's a WomanHorsePig.
And she talks to unicorns.
They graze with her on the South lawn.
They talk about fat free ice creme and cheese-steaks.
Then they go plant vegetables in the human manure compost that Bill Clinton had spread around the White House.
Remember THAT ONE.
Too Funny.
Too Stupid.
WomanHorsePigs aren't very smart I'm afraid.
You should be afraid. You have to be with yourself 24 hours a day. A combustible combination.

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#4 Jul 22, 2013
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
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A MENSA member you're not!!
Try the Flat Earth Society.

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#6 Jul 22, 2013
Eighthman wrote:
<quoted text>Are you still peeing on the rug?
BAD BOY!!!!
Where's that newspaper?
.
Try Sarah Palin. She reads all the newspapers, you know.

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#10 Jul 23, 2013
Eighthman wrote:
Benghazi was Obama's and Hillary's private little snuff film. They are sick in the head.
Then you're not alone?

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you poop in clean water

#11 Jul 23, 2013
any thought on the article guys?

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#13 Jul 23, 2013
I'll take that as a no.
good day.

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#14 Jul 23, 2013
anneutral wrote:
I'll take that as a no.
good day.
Now hold on there, neutral! The fight against horse slaughter is a noble one.

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#16 Jul 24, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Now hold on there, neutral! The fight against horse slaughter is a noble one.
no actually, it's not.
.
(normally we agree on stuff Larry, but as a horse owner, I can see why slaughter is legitimate, and has become a real issue since the last one was closed in 2007)
susan carter

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Jul 26, 2013
anneutral wrote:
any thought on the article guys?
Nice that Richardson and Redford care enough about nM. Where was your dumb mayor while Valley meat had mountains of rotting cows piled nexxxt to silage pits? Remember Mad Cow Disease. pps... don't eat the jerky.

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#18 Jul 26, 2013
anneutral wrote:
<quoted text>
no actually, it's not.
.
(normally we agree on stuff Larry, but as a horse owner, I can see why slaughter is legitimate, and has become a real issue since the last one was closed in 2007)
Please provide your reasons to defend horse slaughter.

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#19 Jul 27, 2013
my reasons to defend ethical horse slaughter:
.
-horses that aren't slaughtered in the US are rounded up, packed like sardines into rail cars, and sent to either mexico or canada. in mexico they've been known to use nail guns to put down the horse. not really humane.
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-in 2007, when the last horse slaughter in the US was closed, horses were reclassified from livestock to "pet". which means that most farms classified as agricultural can no longer keep them without paying high fees for exemptions to the classifications.
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-many people that own horses, but can no longer claim them as livestock on their taxes, can no longer afford to feed them, and boarding facilities are full to capacity in many places, and buyers cannot be found. those owners then release these animals into the wild, where they starve because they've always been fed, they don't know how to truly forage.
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-horses that are ill/lame/old can no longer be sold to slaughter, which means they are either released into the wild to die "naturally", or locked into the last stall of the barn until they die.
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horse slaughter is a necessary as long as we keep horses for work or as pets.
releasing a domesticated animal into the wild to fend for itself is the cruelest way for that animal to die.
(it's all about the bigger picture)

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#20 Jul 27, 2013
anneutral wrote:
my reasons to defend ethical horse slaughter:
.
-horses that aren't slaughtered in the US are rounded up, packed like sardines into rail cars, and sent to either mexico or canada. in mexico they've been known to use nail guns to put down the horse. not really humane.
.
-in 2007, when the last horse slaughter in the US was closed, horses were reclassified from livestock to "pet". which means that most farms classified as agricultural can no longer keep them without paying high fees for exemptions to the classifications.
.
-many people that own horses, but can no longer claim them as livestock on their taxes, can no longer afford to feed them, and boarding facilities are full to capacity in many places, and buyers cannot be found. those owners then release these animals into the wild, where they starve because they've always been fed, they don't know how to truly forage.
.
-horses that are ill/lame/old can no longer be sold to slaughter, which means they are either released into the wild to die "naturally", or locked into the last stall of the barn until they die.
.
.
horse slaughter is a necessary as long as we keep horses for work or as pets.
releasing a domesticated animal into the wild to fend for itself is the cruelest way for that animal to die.
(it's all about the bigger picture)
Your reasons make sense. Thanks.
It still sucks though.

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#21 Jul 27, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Your reasons make sense. Thanks.
It still sucks though.
yeah it does.
<sigh>
susan carter

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Nov 22, 2013
No , it seems to make sense but does not. Horses in New Mexico are classified as Livestock. It has nothing to do with being a "pet." It has everything to do with the Quarter Horse Association. 70% of slaughtered horses are American Quarter Horse. Members are encouraged to breed more and more horses. Breeders hope to get big dollars and very few do. Horses are bought and sold and thrown away, in hopes of getting a flashy horse. Nearly 30% come off the Track. These are the ones who do not Place or are injured. Other slaughtered horses are Nurse Mare Foals and Premarin mares and foals. These are used to harvest their urine for the Estrogen. If a person cannot afford to have their horse euthanized at the end of it's life, they should not have horses. Slaughter is not Euthanasia. It is very cruel. Horses are not easily slaughtered. The main backers of slaughter are Breeders and Race Horse Owners. Look at Valley Meat, the only ones there to support them at the Hearing on Oct.22 were the Livestock Owner, who owns Rodeo Stock (County Commissioner) and the Race Track Vet.

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#23 Dec 9, 2013
susan carter wrote:
No , it seems to make sense but does not. Horses in New Mexico are classified as Livestock. It has nothing to do with being a "pet." It has everything to do with the Quarter Horse Association. 70% of slaughtered horses are American Quarter Horse. Members are encouraged to breed more and more horses. Breeders hope to get big dollars and very few do. Horses are bought and sold and thrown away, in hopes of getting a flashy horse. Nearly 30% come off the Track. These are the ones who do not Place or are injured. Other slaughtered horses are Nurse Mare Foals and Premarin mares and foals. These are used to harvest their urine for the Estrogen. If a person cannot afford to have their horse euthanized at the end of it's life, they should not have horses. Slaughter is not Euthanasia. It is very cruel. Horses are not easily slaughtered. The main backers of slaughter are Breeders and Race Horse Owners. Look at Valley Meat, the only ones there to support them at the Hearing on Oct.22 were the Livestock Owner, who owns Rodeo Stock (County Commissioner) and the Race Track Vet.
you've made the case for legal horse slaughter.
Archangel

Cameron, MO

#24 Dec 9, 2013
anneutral wrote:
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you've made the case for legal horse slaughter.
and you've just made the case for forced sterilization of human beings incapable of logical thinking ! Legalizing horse slaughter will increase overbreeding compounding the problem of unwanted horses, who are only unwanted by commercial overbreeders who then dump them at horse slaughter plants through kill buyers. People who would adopt such horses are outbid by kill buyers at auction. Get a clue, dude !

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