High costs cited against emission rules

High costs cited against emission rules

There are 115 comments on the KRQE Albuquerque story from Nov 8, 2011, titled High costs cited against emission rules. In it, KRQE Albuquerque reports that:

A top official with the New Mexico Environment Department on Tuesday pointed to concerns about higher utility costs as one reason the agency is no longer supporting state regulations aimed at curbing greenhouse gas emissions.

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Since: May 10

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#1 Nov 10, 2011
So-called "greenhouse gases" do not know local, state, or national boundaries. China alone produces 25% of the world's CO2 emissions, almost 7 times more than they did in 1980.

There is much controversy over whether greenhouse gases are even an issue, being that natural sources still far exceed man-made sources.

To saddle New Mexico, and New Mexicans, with overzealous and expensive regulation, which addresses questionable problems that New Mexico alone could not possibly solve, is ridiculous.

The New Mexico Environmental Department is correct in it's current stand on the issue.
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Huntsville, AL

#2 Nov 10, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
corruption from Susana's flunkies. There is no real controversy about global climate change.
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Albuquerque, NM

#3 Nov 10, 2011
Unelected regulators should not be allowed to impose cap and trade on our state. The legilature refuse to put into law this cap and trade. Richardson added at the last minute to the environmental regulations.

There is much controversy regarding global warming and what is causing it. Until science can demonstrate that man is causing global warming, we should not implement any cap and trade.

To date not one scientific study has shown man is causing global warming. If you think there is such a study, try to find it.

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#4 Nov 10, 2011
More wrote:
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corruption from Susana's flunkies. There is no real controversy about global climate change.
Of course there is, it's just that only thinking people see the issue objectively:

http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-myth...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-48161...

And why is it that modern leftists see ANY deviation from their "holier than thou" ideology as "corruption"?

As someone with a conservative/libertarian belief system, I don't see the leftist ideology as corrupt. I merely see it as ignorant, destructive, self-serving, selfish, and short-sighted.

Since: Sep 08

Huntsville, AL

#5 Nov 10, 2011
Simple pay off to the Koch Brothers and all rest of her oil industry funders.

The only scientific controversy is: Does one believe 97% of the scientists or the 3% industry whores.

A "conservative/libertarian belief system" dictates going back to the days when rivers caught fire and people die in the streets from pollutions like the Donora Death Fog.

Socialize the costs and privatize the profits.

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#6 Nov 10, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
Simple pay off to the Koch Brothers and all rest of her oil industry funders.
The only scientific controversy is: Does one believe 97% of the scientists or the 3% industry whores.
A "conservative/libertarian belief system" dictates going back to the days when rivers caught fire and people die in the streets from pollutions like the Donora Death Fog.
Socialize the costs and privatize the profits.
I've read the survey that the 97% figure comes from, and you know what? Based on my truthful answers to the questions on the survey, I'd be counted among the 97%.

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#7 Nov 10, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
Simple pay off to the Koch Brothers and all rest of her oil industry funders.
The only scientific controversy is: Does one believe 97% of the scientists or the 3% industry whores.
A "conservative/libertarian belief system" dictates going back to the days when rivers caught fire and people die in the streets from pollutions like the Donora Death Fog.
Socialize the costs and privatize the profits.
Everything about your post is bogus.

The 97-3 percent figure is a sham, based upon criteria set by members of the radical environmental movement.

Like most modern "holier than thou" liberal/leftists, you paint everyone who disagrees with your in derogatory light.

And a "conservative/libertarian " belief system dictates going back to following the precepts of the United States Constitution, a document you libs cannot stomach at face value, thus your endless nonsensical attempts at re-defining the document to suit your extreme and radical belief system.

It is those founding precepts, set forth by the founders, that created the greatest nation to ever exist on the face of the planet. Precepts that, when adhered to, unleashed the greatest economic growth, and explosion of prosperity, ever seen.

It is only as we've lost sight of the original intent of the Constitution, that the United States has lost it's way.
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#8 Nov 10, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Everything about your post is bogus.
The 97-3 percent figure is a sham, based upon criteria set by members of the radical environmental movement.
Like most modern "holier than thou" liberal/leftists, you paint everyone who disagrees with your in derogatory light.
And a "conservative/libertarian " belief system dictates going back to following the precepts of the United States Constitution, a document you libs cannot stomach at face value, thus your endless nonsensical attempts at re-defining the document to suit your extreme and radical belief system.
It is those founding precepts, set forth by the founders, that created the greatest nation to ever exist on the face of the planet. Precepts that, when adhered to, unleashed the greatest economic growth, and explosion of prosperity, ever seen.
It is only as we've lost sight of the original intent of the Constitution, that the United States has lost it's way.
BS - a corporate apologist toady hiding behind his interpretation the constituion when it is is convenient while supporting unconstituional actions against other people.

Since: Sep 08

Huntsville, AL

#9 Nov 10, 2011
"The 97-3 percent figure is a sham, based upon criteria set by members of the radical environmental movement."
Plus true scientests ---include a high profiled one who was funded by the Koch brothers.

"And a "conservative/libertarian " belief system dictates going back to following the precepts of the United States Constitution, a document you libs cannot stomach at face value, thus your endless nonsensical attempts at re-defining the document to suit your extreme and radical belief system."
And resulted in burning rivers and death by pollution suffocation.

"Precepts that, when adhered to, unleashed the greatest economic growth, and explosion of prosperity, ever seen"
And resulted in unprecedented genocide, raping, plundering, pollution, and economic inequity."

"Like most modern "holier than thou" liberal/leftists, you paint everyone who disagrees with your in derogatory light." No - Just those who who condone polluting the planet, reject science, racists, bigots, and goffuses who lie about liberals.

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#11 Nov 10, 2011
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So says one of the typical liberals, who seem to be frightened of everything.
Guns, oil, coal, nuclear,etc, the world seems to be full of "boogeymen" that are out to get us, therefore, big brother must ban and regulate in order to protect us.
Then they complain about companies sitting on their capital instead of investing in new projects, all the while trying to figure out why unemployment is so high. Unbelievable.
Yeah, it's been awhile since we've had the Black Death, Polio, Typhoid, etc.

Now they've got to make up stuff to be afraid of in order to keep people in line, thus their fear of industry and manufacturing.

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#12 Nov 10, 2011
More wrote:
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BS - a corporate apologist toady hiding behind his interpretation the constituion when it is is convenient while supporting unconstituional actions against other people.
I suggest you read the period writings of the founders, if you really want to learn anything.

If you just want to continue to spout your reformist, re-written history crap, then carry on!

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#13 Nov 10, 2011
PlacitasRoy wrote:
"The 97-3 percent figure is a sham, based upon criteria set by members of the radical environmental movement."
Plus true scientests ---include a high profiled one who was funded by the Koch brothers.
"And a "conservative/libertarian " belief system dictates going back to following the precepts of the United States Constitution, a document you libs cannot stomach at face value, thus your endless nonsensical attempts at re-defining the document to suit your extreme and radical belief system."
And resulted in burning rivers and death by pollution suffocation.
"Precepts that, when adhered to, unleashed the greatest economic growth, and explosion of prosperity, ever seen"
And resulted in unprecedented genocide, raping, plundering, pollution, and economic inequity."
"Like most modern "holier than thou" liberal/leftists, you paint everyone who disagrees with your in derogatory light." No - Just those who who condone polluting the planet, reject science, racists, bigots, and goffuses who lie about liberals.
Of course, in your modern liberal world, progress is bad. People are a cancer on the planet. Industry and business is evil. Etc. Etc. Etc.

We've had quite enough of your negativity.

The U.S. is the greatest nation to ever grace the face of planet earth. The United States has produced the highest standard of living ever. The greatest economic development ever. The most generous populace ever. Etc. Etc.

In short, everything that is good is embodied in the United States of America, and I resent you modern leftists trying to tear down our nation. You are the scourge that must be stopped. You are the cancer that is destroying the United States. And you must be stopped, if our nation is to survive.

That is just the way it is.
Uuuh

Huntsville, AL

#14 Nov 10, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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I resent you modern leftists trying to tear down our nation. You are the scourge that must be stopped. You are the cancer that is destroying the United States. And you must be stopped, if our nation is to survive.
That is just the way it is.
yeah - you are ffin insane.

That is just the way it is.

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#15 Nov 10, 2011
Uuuh wrote:
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yeah - you are ffin insane.
That is just the way it is.
Liberalism is the most rampant mental disorder in America today.

But if you want to consider me as the insane one, then I say: Go with it! It's far easier to simply label people and name call than it is to defend your argument. Especially as thin as your argument is.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#16 Nov 10, 2011
Excuse me but only a few posters makes some sense here. How come you don't talk about the Four Corners?

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#17 Nov 10, 2011
SpaceBlues wrote:
Excuse me but only a few posters makes some sense here. How come you don't talk about the Four Corners?
What did you want to know?
Uuuh

Huntsville, AL

#18 Nov 11, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Liberalism is the most rampant mental disorder in America today.
But if you want to consider me as the insane one, then I say: Go with it! It's far easier to simply label people and name call than it is to defend your argument. Especially as thin as your argument is.
Right - You post crap that your fellow citizens: are "tearing down the nation", a "scourge that must be stopped",a "cancer that is destroying the United States". "you must be stopped, if our nation is to survive"

And then you pretend you are the victim of name calling?

Those ARE ravings of a lunatic by any standard and dangerous in a world full of unstable armed nuts.

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#19 Nov 11, 2011
Uuuh wrote:
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Right - You post crap that your fellow citizens: are "tearing down the nation", a "scourge that must be stopped",a "cancer that is destroying the United States". "you must be stopped, if our nation is to survive"
And then you pretend you are the victim of name calling?
Those ARE ravings of a lunatic by any standard and dangerous in a world full of unstable armed nuts.
It's a shame you consider the first amendment and free thought to be so dangerous.

Modern liberalism is indeed a scourge, and a cancer. Those are simply facts. Modern liberalism, which bears no resemblance to the classical liberalism of the founders, is destroying our nation, and must indeed be stopped. If you feel that is akin to "name calling", then the problem is entirely yours.

I guess I could simply call you a jackass, and leave it at that. But that simplicity really doesn't mean anything. I'm not all that concerned about a lone malcontent repeatedly typing personally derogatory one-liners from a darkened basement in Santa Fe, or from her office cubicle while on the company dime.

It's the pervasive idea of entitlement, subjugation to government, loss of freedom, and the results of same that are of concern.

The issues are much bigger than either you or I, but if boiling it all down to name calling is your primary concern, then I say: "Whatever floats yer boat!"

Since: Apr 10

Milwaukee, WI USA

#20 Nov 11, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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It's a shame you consider the first amendment and free thought to be so dangerous.
Modern liberalism is indeed a scourge, and a cancer. Those are simply facts. Modern liberalism, which bears no resemblance to the classical liberalism of the founders, is destroying our nation, and must indeed be stopped. If you feel that is akin to "name calling", then the problem is entirely yours.
I guess I could simply call you a jackass, and leave it at that. But that simplicity really doesn't mean anything. I'm not all that concerned about a lone malcontent repeatedly typing personally derogatory one-liners from a darkened basement in Santa Fe, or from her office cubicle while on the company dime.
It's the pervasive idea of entitlement, subjugation to government, loss of freedom, and the results of same that are of concern.
The issues are much bigger than either you or I, but if boiling it all down to name calling is your primary concern, then I say: "Whatever floats yer boat!"
Liberalism is a classic siren song. Vote for me and I will take from the rich and give you. Doesn't work.
Quit

Huntsville, AL

#21 Nov 11, 2011
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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It's a shame you consider the first amendment and free thought to be so dangerous.

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lying.

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