EJ Noble Hospital in Gouverneur strug...

EJ Noble Hospital in Gouverneur struggles to reopen

There are 57 comments on the North County Public Radio story from Oct 3, 2012, titled EJ Noble Hospital in Gouverneur struggles to reopen. In it, North County Public Radio reports that:

EJ Noble hospital in Gouverneur is working correct problems in its laboratory, so the hospital can start admitting patients again.

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Postman

Fayetteville, NY

#1 Oct 4, 2012
What is the function of the Chief Executive Officer (Administrator), is it not his job to kept the Hospital in compliance with all state and federal regulations under his directions? Why was this not done? Everything I have read, clearly points to the CEO responibilies! It seems that The Hospital Board should have notice and took action some time ago on the financial situation, before waiting on year end fiqures. They must get monthly financial reports, like many Boards, all are just Rubber Stampers! Now is the time to do a reconstruction in the Administration for best of the community. This community has given EJN alot of support, now support the community!
localguy12

La Fayette, NY

#3 Oct 4, 2012
how this place stays open is beyond me, that place is a death trap and the CEO is totally blameless, he places the blame on others instead of looking in the mirror at himself, he needs to be fired.
Not at EJN

Fayetteville, NY

#4 Oct 4, 2012
cool story bro wrote:
You are wrong. The function of the modern CEO is to cut every department's budgets as much as possible, then take the leftovers as a "bonus" at the end of the year. And if the board plays along, they can have a cut too.
Hahahahahah. I laughed so hard at that ridiculous statement, I peed my pants!
That may be true on Wall Street (as in NYC) but NOT in Gouverneur!
There are never "leftovers" at EJN.
Don't you read the news? EJN LOST $690,000. Tell me where think there are leftovers??

There is no bonus at EJN and the board in entirely volunteer-no one on the board is paid anything.
Employee

Pascoag, RI

#5 Oct 5, 2012
Dont you retards ever stop. Most people in gouverneur want the hospital back up and running including myself..you sit behind your f$$$ing computers and run your mouths about each other and how much of a sh$$hole this town is..well I have news for you if the hospital does not reopen this town is done..if you think this town is bad now just wait till there is 240 people out of work...and canole admitted he made a mistake so why dont we all give him a chance to correct it
My2Cents

Ithaca, NY

#6 Oct 5, 2012
Employee wrote:
Dont you retards ever stop. Most people in gouverneur want the hospital back up and running including myself..you sit behind your f$$$ing computers and run your mouths about each other and how much of a sh$$hole this town is..well I have news for you if the hospital does not reopen this town is done..if you think this town is bad now just wait till there is 240 people out of work...and canole admitted he made a mistake so why dont we all give him a chance to correct it
I don't think anyone wants to see the hospital closed permanently and certainly nobody wants to see so many people lose their jobs. If you are an employee of the hospital, you know first hand that there are major issues. I personally believe that Canole is one of the biggest issues. He admitted making a mistake, he has made far too many mistakes and I don't see where he has ever really done anything to correct them. As far as I am concerned his incompetence is what caused that hospital to be shut down and until he is gone, the hospital will continue to face major issues.
patient and parent

Ithaca, NY

#7 Oct 5, 2012
localguy12 wrote:
how this place stays open is beyond me, that place is a death trap and the CEO is totally blameless, he places the blame on others instead of looking in the mirror at himself, he needs to be fired.
How ridiculous to say that EJN is a death trap. We are very fortunate to have EJN in our village/town. We have an emergency room that is just minutes away, and MANY people have been helped there, and lives have been saved. There are many great services at EJN that we should be very grateful to have. Hopefully they will reopen in the next couple of weeks. Because they will be carefully watched, they will be be better than ever. Do you ever hear of deaths and mistakes in other hospitals all over the country?? of course, there is no PERFECT hospital.
Postman

Fayetteville, NY

#8 Oct 6, 2012
EJN should have never closed it's doors, because of violations of State regulations (19 reported)! I ask who do you think is responsible?
thankful

Ithaca, NY

#9 Oct 6, 2012
A year ago I went to the E.R. at E.J. Noble Hospital, I was treated with dignity and admitted for emergency surgery for a very serious condition.
Within three hours of the time I arrived I was in the O.R. under going surgery. During my recovery I was taken care of by a wonderful staff of Nurses and medical staff. It is unfortunate the management has screwed up but, mistakes happen everywhere & it is time to move on and get this facility open again. I appreciate all the care given to me and will remember this forever.
used to be ejn worker

Long Eddy, NY

#10 Oct 6, 2012
kelly,canole and donna prashaw should all be fired,does not matter if kelly has 15 years there she should be punished for what she did,and canole getting all his stuff handed to him,his car his house and credit cards al belong to ejn and gets paid 2 salarys,i no cos i used to make out the payrolls there,but i dont want to see it closed either we need it
Pray

Ithaca, NY

#11 Oct 6, 2012
Lets just hope and pray it re opens and we have a hospital!
observer

Ithaca, NY

#12 Oct 6, 2012
used to be ejn worker wrote:
kelly,canole and donna prashaw should all be fired,does not matter if kelly has 15 years there she should be punished for what she did,and canole getting all his stuff handed to him,his car his house and credit cards al belong to ejn and gets paid 2 salarys,i no cos i used to make out the payrolls there,but i dont want to see it closed either we need it
Really!!...you use to work in payroll?....terrible English and spelling errors. salarys....salaries I no....I know cos...because dont...don't periods, capitals, wow...you did payroll? For some reason I don't believe you. Were you fired? At least you agree that EJN should not close.
BTW sometimes I make grammar and spelling errors, too.
Joanne Rigsby

Ithaca, NY

#13 Oct 6, 2012
observer wrote:
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Really!!...you use to work in payroll?....terrible English and spelling errors. salarys....salaries I no....I know cos...because dont...don't periods, capitals, wow...you did payroll? For some reason I don't believe you. Were you fired? At least you agree that EJN should not close.
BTW sometimes I make grammar and spelling errors, too.
Well DUH!! She said she worked in PAYROLL. In payroll you work in NUMBERS, not LETTERS.
Einstein

Fayetteville, NY

#14 Oct 6, 2012
used to be ejn worker wrote:
kelly,canole and donna prashaw should all be fired,does not matter if kelly has 15 years there she should be punished for what she did,and canole getting all his stuff handed to him,his car his house and credit cards al belong to ejn and gets paid 2 salarys,i no cos i used to make out the payrolls there,but i dont want to see it closed either we need it
Okay, Sweetheart. Do you know the meaning of the word "allocate"? Conole serves as hospital administrator AND nursing home administrator. Each position requires a specific and separate NYS license. Conole's salary (single) is allocated between the nursing home and the hospital, which are two separate corporations, which means two separate payroll accounts. I would think if you worked in a payroll department, you would know what "allocate" means. Guess you don't.

BTW-Which house did the hospital buy for him?
observer

Ithaca, NY

#15 Oct 6, 2012
Joanne Rigsby wrote:
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Well DUH!! She said she worked in PAYROLL. In payroll you work in NUMBERS, not LETTERS.
There is more to payroll than just numbers...it does take some smarts and probably good knowledge of the English language. OOps, I just asked my husband, and he agrees with you... you don't have to be smart to work in payroll.
Joanne Rigsby

Ithaca, NY

#16 Oct 6, 2012
observer wrote:
<quoted text>
There is more to payroll than just numbers...it does take some smarts and probably good knowledge of the English language. OOps, I just asked my husband, and he agrees with you... you don't have to be smart to work in payroll.
Well I don't know about you but I would hope that they have some smart people in payroll. I know I like getting paid right.
Wake up

United States

#17 Oct 7, 2012
This brings to light the general ignorance of the public and administration about the importance of the hospital laboratory. This proves the vital importance of having a good hospital laboratory and what happens when the lab is ignored. Salaries have not kept up with the demand and managers are going to travel tech agencies to fill the positions instead of raising the salaries to make te job desirable for people looking for a professional job. Until that issue is addressed these kinds of problems will continue.
Canole needs to go

Penn Yan, NY

#18 Oct 8, 2012
That being said, has anyone read the article in todays paper on the hush order from the DOH, and both Canole, and Monroe's responses, like I said, how many lies do these two have to be caught in before they are kicked out. Canole "misinterpreted" what was said..he seems to have an answer for everything. Twice now it has been switched to and from the lab tech helping with the plan, then not helping. The DOH is catching on to the fact that Monroe and canole are misleading all of us, that is why they are telling them to keep their mouths shut.
how many good physicians have we lost including Dr. Kumar..wonder what he knew, This hospital, and it's poor workers are going to suffer, while he still gets paid, still lies, and still steals from this town. Rather than rallying for the nurses to get back to work, this entire town needs to be out on the streets, in fornt of monroes, and Canoles, getting them out.
I am not the only one who is looking at the bigger picture, I feel very badly for the nurses in limbo right now, and the way they were treated. I also do not get why Canole is defending, and still has the employee working who make this awful mistake. I have been watching, and reading every day, and am I the only one who notices everytime Canole speaks he lies. He said "he was choosing between which hospital would run the lab" it's the state. I also know a woman who was fired when she questioned why he told his secretary to write checks to creditors, but not send them. But a lab tech kills someone, and is still working? Has anyone taken a good look at who is on the hospital board? Not RN's, or people who use the hospital. It's all about who you know, money, and who will keep their mouth shut. It is no different then the village board. This town needs new sidewalks, programs for high risk youth, counseling for kids who need help, but their parents don't care. As long as the money is going into the pockets of those who have more money than 90% of us who live here, for favors, this town is going to continue to die. I grew up here, I loved it, I left home, but came back. Worst mistake I ever made. When is this town going to finally going to fight to get our town back. If anyone reading this, do the research, I have, but 1 person is not enough. This needs to go outside of this district, with the state involved, hopefully, things will get fixed there, but come on, look at our kids, they have nothing, and are exposed to dope, child molesters, they have no childhood. What is being done to fix that?
Intersting

Ilion, NY

#19 Oct 8, 2012
Have some of you ever come to think that funding has been cut in various places as well. There could be many reasons why this hospital labatory had got shut down. If there aren't enough funds to buy the updated equipment that alone can cause a problem. I know that there has been cuts in many businesses. But not only just businessess causing them to shut down. Hospitals, schools every where are also suffering from the cut of funding. With all these cuts it is no wonder that schools and hospitals and business are being shut down. If money isn't there for supplies how are they to get them? Fundraising alone doesn't raise money for things that are needed. With this economy being a mess like it is, it is no wonder that businesses and things like schools and hospitals are havig issues just to stay open.
Ever wonder on that?
Caleb johanson

Ithaca, NY

#20 Oct 8, 2012
Money is exactly the problem, to many lowlifes using the hospital as a place to get free healthcare.
Way off

Fayetteville, NY

#21 Oct 8, 2012
Canole needs to go wrote:
That being said, has anyone read the article in todays paper on the hush order from the DOH, and both Canole, and Monroe's responses, like I said, how many lies do these two have to be caught in before they are kicked out. Canole "misinterpreted" what was said..he seems to have an answer for everything. Twice now it has been switched to and from the lab tech helping with the plan, then not helping. The DOH is catching on to the fact that Monroe and canole are misleading all of us, that is why they are telling them to keep their mouths shut.
how many good physicians have we lost including Dr. Kumar..wonder what he knew, This hospital, and it's poor workers are going to suffer, while he still gets paid, still lies, and still steals from this town. Rather than rallying for the nurses to get back to work, this entire town needs to be out on the streets, in fornt of monroes, and Canoles, getting them out.
I am not the only one who is looking at the bigger picture, I feel very badly for the nurses in limbo right now, and the way they were treated. I also do not get why Canole is defending, and still has the employee working who make this awful mistake. I have been watching, and reading every day, and am I the only one who notices everytime Canole speaks he lies. He said "he was choosing between which hospital would run the lab" it's the state. I also know a woman who was fired when she questioned why he told his secretary to write checks to creditors, but not send them. But a lab tech kills someone, and is still working? Has anyone taken a good look at who is on the hospital board? Not RN's, or people who use the hospital. It's all about who you know, money, and who will keep their mouth shut. It is no different then the village board. This town needs new sidewalks, programs for high risk youth, counseling for kids who need help, but their parents don't care. As long as the money is going into the pockets of those who have more money than 90% of us who live here, for favors, this town is going to continue to die. I grew up here, I loved it, I left home, but came back. Worst mistake I ever made. When is this town going to finally going to fight to get our town back. If anyone reading this, do the research, I have, but 1 person is not enough. This needs to go outside of this district, with the state involved, hopefully, things will get fixed there, but come on, look at our kids, they have nothing, and are exposed to dope, child molesters, they have no childhood. What is being done to fix that?
What a "Debbie Downer"! You are so wrong about this town. Yeah, the hospital has some major issues right now. But big wigs getting paid for favors??? Where do you dream up this crap? There have been many improvements since I moved here 40 years ago. And I love this town. My kids had a great childhood here, got a good education, and both have great jobs. Don't ever remember them being exposed to dope or molesters. Maybe you're hanging with the wrong crowd, honey. And there are wrong crowds in every town.
We have a great rec park across the river from Harry Mills Park, the Chamber of Commerce plans lots of activities, and the sidewalks aren't nearly as bad as they were years ago.
The worst thing I can say about this area (and this State) is the Entitlement attitude that is passed down through generations. And that will not change until the State and Federal governments stop giving my hard-earned tax dollars to anyone with a hand out. How, exactly, do you think we need to "fight to get our town back"? How do you think the "State" can fix what you don't like? Maybe it would be best for your kids AND this town if you moved away. But I don't think you'll be happier anywhere else.

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