Minnesota House taps state surplus fo...

Minnesota House taps state surplus for another $322 million in spending

There are 41 comments on the TwinCities story from Apr 4, 2014, titled Minnesota House taps state surplus for another $322 million in spending. In it, TwinCities reports that:

After more than nine hours of fiercely partisan debate Thursday night, the Minnesota House passed a bill spending money to boost wages for caregivers for the elderly and disabled, guarantee hot lunches for low-income students, fill potholes and expand broadband access in rural areas.

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Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#21 Apr 4, 2014
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> Oh here we go again,with a bagger general talking point blame game ,directed by his Lard Rush Limbaugh quote it's the childrennns fault,it 'sthe poor folks fault,cut the food stamps,cut student aid,social security,close public schools,teach a guy to fish so he can himself and his family etc,etc.
I said none of those things and I don't listen to Limbaugh or any other talk radio entertainers. Once again, you really need to work on your reading comprehension skills red.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#22 Apr 4, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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Agree! but one thing I disagree with you about jesse tax rebate,it did help out our state by giving back some tax revenue to the taxpaper's and increased the state GNP.
the analysis of its effects afterward showed its effects to be negligible.

and then it was just one or two years later we had a shortfall in budget revenue...hmmmm...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#23 Apr 4, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>regardless of how our budgetary woes have been created, when you rely on the fickle revenue source of income tax you need 10-15% reserve fund to weather the ups and downs of the economy.(when the economy is down so are earnings, thus so are income tax revenues from both individuals and businesses...)
not sure what school lunches for most of the year have to do with anything here...
I agree it's good for the state to have a rainy day fund. Not that it ever gets used for that. But we both know that governments tend to spend far too much money.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#24 Apr 4, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
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I agree it's good for the state to have a rainy day fund. Not that it ever gets used for that. But we both know that governments tend to spend far too much money.
you can't really think of it as a rainy day fund...that even needs to be a separate thing. when you base your revenue on income, it will fluxuate as the economy does and you need a buffer to make up the short years...

just sound financial planning...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#25 Apr 4, 2014
redeemer wrote:
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Agree! but one thing I disagree with you about jesse tax rebate,it did help out our state by giving back some tax revenue to the taxpaper's and increased the state GNP.
yes, it looked good on paper. not much actual benefit was noticed in the economy.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#26 Apr 5, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, it looked good on paper. not much actual benefit was noticed in the economy.

This was a lot like cash for clunkers. All it did was give a very small boost for a very short time. Except with C4C, it cause low end used car prices to spike, which only hurt those that need affordable transportation.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#27 Apr 5, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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This was a lot like cash for clunkers. All it did was give a very small boost for a very short time. Except with C4C, it cause low end used car prices to spike, which only hurt those that need affordable transportation.
And the C4C scrapped many good cars at what cost.

Figure the cost of those vehicles and add it to the cost of C4C.

And they were valuable.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#28 Apr 5, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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This was a lot like cash for clunkers. All it did was give a very small boost for a very short time. Except with C4C, it cause low end used car prices to spike, which only hurt those that need affordable transportation.
this was nothing at all like C4C. not even remotely related or even similar in any way...
but if you want to rant about it, start a thread about it..
Blue Tool

Minneapolis, MN

#29 Apr 5, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, it looked good on paper. not much actual benefit was noticed in the economy.
Right on.

The Government should ALWAYS overtax and spend it on worthy projects like the Senate office building.

Again it's to bad the State doesn't have a $10,000,000,000 surplus to spend effiectivly.

Can you imagine how robust the economy would be if Government spured the economy with $10 BILLION?

Maybe they will raise taxes MORE yet this year to allow more Government spending.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#30 Apr 5, 2014
Blue Tool wrote:
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Right on.
The Government should ALWAYS overtax and spend it on worthy projects like the Senate office building.
Again it's to bad the State doesn't have a $10,000,000,000 surplus to spend effiectivly.
Can you imagine how robust the economy would be if Government spured the economy with $10 BILLION?
Maybe they will raise taxes MORE yet this year to allow more Government spending.
they do need a new office building. i think it should look alot like the office building the majority of their employers work in.

we get our shit done on a modern workaday office, so can they.
Blue Tool

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Apr 5, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they do need a new office building. i think it should look alot like the office building the majority of their employers work in.
we get our shit done on a modern workaday office, so can they.
Agreed, and why does the Government cut corners. A Senate building is needed and they should build a NICE BUILDING. This structure will be used for 100 years or more. Why build a less than adaquate building like tey did with the Metrodome?

If needed spend $200,000,000 on a NICE structure with a reflecting pool etc.

Don't forget all the visitors to the Capital, Minnesota should not be a second class state like North Dakota.

Like I say, tax enough to collect $10,000,000,000 (10 BILLION) and invest in nice diggs for our elected officials and other projects certian to spur the economy.

Let's get Minnesota working, RAISE TAXES $10,000,000,000 (ten BILLION) and invest in the economy to get Minnesota growing like it can.

Anyone that says taxes shouldn't be incresed is ANTI USA!!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#32 Apr 6, 2014
Blue Tool wrote:
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Agreed, and why does the Government cut corners. A Senate building is needed and they should build a NICE BUILDING. This structure will be used for 100 years or more. Why build a less than adaquate building like tey did with the Metrodome?
If needed spend $200,000,000 on a NICE structure with a reflecting pool etc.
Don't forget all the visitors to the Capital, Minnesota should not be a second class state like North Dakota.
Like I say, tax enough to collect $10,000,000,000 (10 BILLION) and invest in nice diggs for our elected officials and other projects certian to spur the economy.
Let's get Minnesota working, RAISE TAXES $10,000,000,000 (ten BILLION) and invest in the economy to get Minnesota growing like it can.
Anyone that says taxes shouldn't be incresed is ANTI USA!!
ummm, the dome lasted far longer than the national average for sports stadiums..you should research before you spew and make an ass of yourself...(bigger ass)
Blue Tool

Minneapolis, MN

#33 Apr 6, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>ummm, the dome lasted far longer than the national average for sports stadiums..you should research before you spew and make an ass of yourself...(bigger ass)
Well fool, everyone knows the dome was a hunk of sheet even when it was under construction.

It could have lasted another 20 years with its new roof but from a functional perspective it was junk from day 1.

So for you to say it lasted a long time is asnine, it wasn't replaced because of it's functionalism but it design was junk and everyone knows that. I guess you didn't understand that.

It was a compromise design that everyone hated and now we get a new Vikings stadium that should have had another BILLION spent on it to make it a symbol of Minnesota design and creativity.

Furthermore IMHO the State should raise taxes and get enough money to build a replica of Waikiki beach indoors at the MOA. Can you imagine the draw a warm sandy beach in Minnesota would be. With wave generation you could even surf on the enclosed beach.

It might cost 30 BILLION but how much would be saved because Minnesotians would not have to travel to far away places to escape the cold?

That's the kind of project that would set Minnesota apart from the rest. Jack up taxes and get creative and provide for the taxpayers.of Minnesota and welfare recipients from whereever they come from.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#34 Apr 6, 2014
Blue Tool wrote:
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Well fool, everyone knows the dome was a hunk of sheet even when it was under construction.
It could have lasted another 20 years with its new roof but from a functional perspective it was junk from day 1.
So for you to say it lasted a long time is asnine, it wasn't replaced because of it's functionalism but it design was junk and everyone knows that. I guess you didn't understand that.
It was a compromise design that everyone hated and now we get a new Vikings stadium that should have had another BILLION spent on it to make it a symbol of Minnesota design and creativity.
Furthermore IMHO the State should raise taxes and get enough money to build a replica of Waikiki beach indoors at the MOA. Can you imagine the draw a warm sandy beach in Minnesota would be. With wave generation you could even surf on the enclosed beach.
It might cost 30 BILLION but how much would be saved because Minnesotians would not have to travel to far away places to escape the cold?
That's the kind of project that would set Minnesota apart from the rest. Jack up taxes and get creative and provide for the taxpayers.of Minnesota and welfare recipients from whereever they come from.
the Twinkies won two Series in it..

so you really are saying waste more tax money to build a luxury office building for just a few people to use...how stupid.

you have some great ideas...raise the capital and get to it. that is not the place of gov't.

you know, i'm working on building a great cabin ..Mn should spend a few millions on my cabin so we can all know we have the coolest, iconic northwoods cabin in the state! think how good you will feel about me having that beautiful cabin here in your state!
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Apr 6, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the Twinkies won two Series in it..
so you really are saying waste more tax money to build a luxury office building for just a few people to use...how stupid.
you have some great ideas...raise the capital and get to it. that is not the place of gov't.
you know, i'm working on building a great cabin ..Mn should spend a few millions on my cabin so we can all know we have the coolest, iconic northwoods cabin in the state! think how good you will feel about me having that beautiful cabin here in your state!
Now wait, Government does build all kinds of stuff.

Twins stadium, National sports center Blaine, Giants Ridge area, Vikings stadium, Science Museum, Legend and Quarry golf courses, Target Arena, Excel Center, Saints Ball park, State Parks, hundreds of Hockey arenas, aquatic swimming pools ponds, bike paths, dog parks, community centers, memorial parks, etc etc etc...

Sooo let's build a BEACH!! Something everyone would love!!

Think of the jobs created and what a magnet it would be and draw MILLIONS of visitors a year.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#36 Apr 6, 2014
Trigger wrote:
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Now wait, Government does build all kinds of stuff.
Twins stadium, National sports center Blaine, Giants Ridge area, Vikings stadium, Science Museum, Legend and Quarry golf courses, Target Arena, Excel Center, Saints Ball park, State Parks, hundreds of Hockey arenas, aquatic swimming pools ponds, bike paths, dog parks, community centers, memorial parks, etc etc etc...
Sooo let's build a BEACH!! Something everyone would love!!
Think of the jobs created and what a magnet it would be and draw MILLIONS of visitors a year.
shouldn't you be lying about your "wolf kills"?

what a tool!

like a little child that got spanked and is sore...

run along, punk...
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#37 Apr 6, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>shouldn't you be lying about your "wolf kills"?
what a tool!
like a little child that got spanked and is sore...
run along, punk...
shouldn't you be lying about your "wolf kills"?

what a tool!

like a little child that got spanked and is sore...
run along, punk.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#38 Apr 7, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>shouldn't you be lying about your "wolf kills"?
what a tool!
like a little child that got spanked and is sore...
run along, punk...
He11 we could even import some of Waikiki's homeless to make an indoor beach JUST LIKE Paridise.

I'm serious, a LARGE indoor beach at the MOA would draw MILLIONS, the college kids wouldn't have to fly for spring break. It's be wonderful.

The DFL would need to jack taxes up and get enough cash to build it and we'd have paridise in Minnesota..

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#39 Apr 7, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they do need a new office building. i think it should look alot like the office building the majority of their employers work in.
we get our shit done on a modern workaday office, so can they.
If they really need a new building,(and I doubt it) then fine. build it. But let's forgo the sculpture garden and zen pondering pool and any of the artsy refinements that government is know for adding to public structures. It can look aesthetically pleasing without spending additional dollars for artistic water fountains and marble staircases. Make it functional and who cares what tourists think of it.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#40 Apr 7, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
If they really need a new building,(and I doubt it) then fine. build it. But let's forgo the sculpture garden and zen pondering pool and any of the artsy refinements that government is know for adding to public structures. It can look aesthetically pleasing without spending additional dollars for artistic water fountains and marble staircases. Make it functional and who cares what tourists think of it.
agreed. the Capitol building being a landmark is one thing, but this is the office building for public servants. nothing more.

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