More immigrants fleeing to Florida

More immigrants fleeing to Florida

There are 153 comments on the Palm Beach Post story from Nov 5, 2011, titled More immigrants fleeing to Florida. In it, Palm Beach Post reports that:

Angel Enriquez escaped Alabama after a stringent immigration law took effect there Sept.

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Since: Jan 11

Milton, MA

#132 Nov 30, 2011
FedUpWithIllegals wrote:
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Oh, my apologies, Amanda. I thought you meant the American Indians when you said "there" [sic].
You meant we took land from Mexcio during the war. Got it.
Well, FYI, we "didn't take there [sic] land," Amanda. We BOUGHT it from Mexico, even if we didn't have to. By "even if we didn't have to," I'm referring to the adage "To the victor goes the spoils."
We won the war. According to the rules of war, the victor can claim any land he wants to, from the conquered. We could have easily said "We'll take all that land from you as reparations for the war." But no. We MAGNANIMOUSLY OFFERED TO PAY FOR THAT LAND, even if we didn't have to, according to the terms of war.
$15M we paid for the southwest.
AND MEXICO OK'D THE DEAL.
And you blame us? HAH! Blame Mexico instead for signing on the dotted line. Money is the root of all evil, isn't it?
"We" doesn't include you Viet-Cong so stop trying to play yourself off as a real American. You're a Mail Order Bride...with a useless degree...so stop preaching about how you think other immigrants should come here.
Return to Sender

Keene, CA

#133 Nov 30, 2011
Deece_ wrote:
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"We" doesn't include you Viet-Cong so stop trying to play yourself off as a real American. You're a Mail Order Bride...with a useless degree...so stop preaching about how you think other immigrants should come here.
An ugly Mail Order Bride to boot.
Saywha

Del Rio, TX

#134 Nov 30, 2011
AMANDA wrote:
I BELIEVE WE TOOK THERE LAND FROM THEM DURING THE WAR... AND IF YOU DONT LIKE MEXICANS WELL TOUGH . THERE PEOPLE TOO. AMERICA WAS BUILD ON IMMIGRANTS
And the Spaniards took it from all the real Mexicans, and the Aztecs took land away from the original groups, and so on and so forth! That is how it was in the past!! The U.S. gave Mexico $18,250,000 for the lands and forgave Mexican debt of $3,250,000 owed to American Citizens after the war..nothing was free. The U.S. can be accused that we "took" their land only if the U.S. would had not given anything. Besides, Mexico was the one that started the whole mess when they would not allow their former territory; Texas to join the U.S., so they stepped into it...if you catch my drift. Besides, Mexico had problems within their own country with states breaking away to form their own nation; Republic of Yucatan and the Republic of Rio Grande which consisted of the states of Coahuila, Nuevo León, and Tamaulipas. The following Mexican states rebelled against the central Mexican government under Sant Anna: Coahuila y Tejas (the northern part of which would become the Republic of Texas), San Luis Potosí, Querétaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacán, Yucatán, Jalisco, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, and Zacatecas besides Texas..so please learn your history and how to use proper grammar and spelling.

“Press 2 for Deportation.”

Since: Apr 09

Norfolk, NE

#135 Dec 3, 2011
Deece_ wrote:
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"We" doesn't include you Viet-Cong so stop trying to play yourself off as a real American. You're a Mail Order Bride...with a useless degree...so stop preaching about how you think other immigrants should come here.
If you say so. Just wish you had more concrete evidence to back up your slander.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#136 Dec 5, 2011
The immigrants are just fine, it it the illegals that flee.
The editor should have caught that.
foxracing

Raleigh, NC

#137 Dec 19, 2011
Chavo del eight wrote:
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Why are we trying to pass immigration laws when we don't even enforce the ones we have now?
You do realize we have current immigration laws right?
i said Enforce not pass

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#138 Dec 19, 2011
foxracing wrote:
<quoted text>i said Enforce not pass
Ummm... No

foxracing wrote:
<quoted text>We have tried to pass immigration laws already..where u been?

I understand that state's are taking it upon themselves and actually do something (which is great), but we have laws in place already that don't get enforced. Like you said any new ones just get shut down. We've had republicans and democrats in office and both are power whore that will do anything (or nothing in the illegal immigration case) to stay in power. We need something new or inevitable hit rock bottom before anything gets done.

I'm with you man I'm just being the devil's advocate.
Abel

San Martin, CA

#139 Dec 20, 2011
Chavo del eight wrote:
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Ummm... No
foxracing wrote:
<quoted text>We have tried to pass immigration laws already..where u been?
I understand that state's are taking it upon themselves and actually do something (which is great), but we have laws in place already that don't get enforced. Like you said any new ones just get shut down. We've had republicans and democrats in office and both are power whore that will do anything (or nothing in the illegal immigration case) to stay in power. We need something new or inevitable hit rock bottom before anything gets done.
I'm with you man I'm just being the devil's advocate.
Are you into pornography or what dude? Your shit is spilling all over topix.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/salinas-ca/TG...
Derek

Folsom, CA

#140 Dec 20, 2011
Rebel wrote:
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Believe whatever you want. Doesn't make it true, since it's not. If there's a fight for something, the winner wins. Period. Sore loser? Typical Mexican.
Read up on history and then STFU on your nonsense:
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/87721.h...
Gadsden Purchase, 1853-1854
The Gadsden Purchase, or Treaty, was an agreement between the United States and Mexico, finalized in 1854, in which the United States agreed to pay Mexico $10 million for a 29,670 square mile portion of Mexico that later became part of Arizona and New Mexico. Gadsden's Purchase provided the land necessary for a southern transcontinental railroad and attempted to resolve conflicts that lingered after the Mexican-American War.
While the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo formally ended the Mexican-American War in February 1848, tensions between the Governments of Mexico and the United States continued to simmer over the next six years. The two countries each claimed the Mesilla Valley as part of their own country. The Mexican Government demanded monetary compensation for Native American attacks in the region because, under the Treaty, the United States had agreed to protect Mexico from such attacks; however, the United States refused to comply, insisting that while they had agreed to protect Mexico from Native American attacks, they had not agreed to financially compensate for attacks that did occur. The persistent efforts of private American citizens to enter Mexico illegally and incite rebellions in an effort to gain territory exacerbated tensions between the governments.
America was built by slave labor. Immigrants came later and helped continue the process.

Illegal immigrants aka illegal aliens did not help in any way shape or form, they simply slivered into this country to reap the benefits.

As for the point these lands once belonged to Mexico, well the also belonged to Spain and the american indian, so what.

Mexico has more land than it needs, its the people who make the place the dump it is. Now they're bringing their ignorance, filth, primitive mindsets and general stupidity here. If they had the ability to upgrade a nation, Mexico wouldn't be what it is.
Derek

Folsom, CA

#141 Dec 20, 2011
The Short_Bus Driver wrote:
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And this was all done under the belief of Manifest Destiny. You cannot logically claim that Mexico under duress freely and willfully signed the Treaty of Guadeloupe while US troops surrounded Mexico City with the tips of their guns pointed at their heads.
Yes, Mexico lost a war and some land, O well. Sucks to be them or is it?
What occurred in the 1840's still lingers over America today. Simply put, America was morally wrong in usurping Mexican territory but Mexico was also at fault for not better occupying the territories in question.
Add some Mexican indoctrination that America stole land and add some American indoctrination that even though we started a war with them to take land we were nice enough to buy the land will forever make this subject a greatly contested issue for many decades to come.
To start with the American Southwest, let's assume for the moment that the irredentists are right and that it should be ceded to Mexico. What gives the Mexican government a claim to this portion of the earth? This was Mexico for a mere 27 years -- just a single generation. In 1821, one could argue, the Mexican colonists stole New Spain from the Spanish, who had claimed title to it for nearly three centuries. So maybe it should revert to Spain? But wait: The Spanish took it from the Indians, or Native Americans, or indigenous peoples, or aboriginal inhabitants of North America. Ah, but which tribes should receive which parts?
Derek

Folsom, CA

#142 Dec 20, 2011
But let's grant, for argument's sake, the assertion that the U.S. should cede the Southwest to Mexico. If that is the case, then we should cede Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia, and the other original colonies to England, and all of us should migrate to our home countries. In my case, that would be England, with one leg going to Germany. But the English, mostly descending from the Germanic tribes of Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, should cede England to the Celts and return to Denmark and Germany. The Celts, in turn, would also have to retire to the Continent, relinquishing the British Isles to the Picts and the Scots, if any could be found. And the other descendants of the Germanic tribes (the Dutch, Belgians, French, Germans, Austrians, Danes, Norwegians, Icelanders, and Swedes) should return to the Caucasus or Central Asia or wherever they originated. Eventually we should all have to return to east Africa.

In short, human history is the story of groups of people moving across vast distances, laying claim to territory, killing or subjugating the earlier inhabitants, intermingling with them, and moving on. The right by which any group lays claim to a piece of land is ultimately enforced by force.

So let's hear no more burbling about how "America is a nation of immigrants." The president said it again in his press conference the other day. The statement is as vapid as declaiming, "The waters of America our rivers and streams, our lakes and swamps, our bays and marshes are...are...wet!" Immigrants? I defy anyone to name a country, just one, of the 35 in North and South America that is not "a nation of immigrants." Is there one in Europe? The world? As far as I know, every country is "a nation of immigrants." So next time you hear someone say "America is a nation of immigrants," just laugh at him.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#143 Dec 20, 2011
Derek wrote:
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America was built by slave labor. Immigrants came later and helped continue the process.
Illegal immigrants aka illegal aliens did not help in any way shape or form, they simply slivered into this country to reap the benefits.
As for the point these lands once belonged to Mexico, well the also belonged to Spain and the american indian, so what.
Mexico has more land than it needs, its the people who make the place the dump it is. Now they're bringing their ignorance, filth, primitive mindsets and general stupidity here. If they had the ability to upgrade a nation, Mexico wouldn't be what it is.
Did you bother reading the post I was responding to? If you had, you may understand why I posted that stuff.

The poster I was responding to was one of those "you stole our land" types.
Derek

Folsom, CA

#144 Dec 20, 2011
Rebel wrote:
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Did you bother reading the post I was responding to? If you had, you may understand why I posted that stuff.
The poster I was responding to was one of those "you stole our land" types.
Difficult keeping up sometimes. As for stolen land, the best answer is land has been siezed for ages, thats the way the world operates. If Mexico had these lands they's be just as screwed up as the rest of Mexico.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#145 Dec 20, 2011
America was partially farmed by slave labor, not built by slaves.......don't change historical fact....
Derek

Folsom, CA

#146 Dec 20, 2011
Go Blue wrote:
America was partially farmed by slave labor, not built by slaves.......don't change historical fact....
The countries wealth was gained via profits derived from the work of slaves.

www.youtube.com/watch...

North America's four major rail networks — Norfolk Southern, CSX, Union Pacific and Canadian National — all own lines that were built and operated with slave labor.

Historians say nearly every rail line built east of the Mississippi River and south of the Mason-Dixonline before the Civil War was constructed or run at least partly by slaves.

Ted Kornweibel, a professor of Africana studies at San Diego State University, has documented use of slaves by 94 early rail lines. By his count, 39 now belong to Norfolk Southern, based in Norfolk, Va. 36 are owned by CSX of Jacksonville, Fla. 12 are part of Omaha-based Union Pacific; seven belong to Canadian National, headquartered in Montreal.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#147 Dec 20, 2011
partially-partially-partially. .....early rail lines would only pertain to those, pre civil war.....you and Ted are fabricating history, partially.....
american

United States

#148 Dec 20, 2011
Lol
Serrano Red

United States

#150 Mar 3, 2013
I am glad to get rid of them let the floridans have them they elected osama
MSJ

Prairieville, LA

#151 Mar 3, 2013
I agree with Amanda 100%.They will be legal,in the good Lords time.We are all the same regardless of our race,it is just a skin color.We all bleed red.I will keep all of the illegals in my prayers.
Serrano Red

United States

#152 Mar 16, 2013
Raul wrote:
<quoted text> They are immigrants gringo. Wake up!
They are illegal trash brownie

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