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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

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The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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sic

West Terre Haute, IN

#52 Dec 2, 2010
Fox News is not liberal, it's conservative. It's the only news channel where you get the truth. Unlike the Obama news channel's (nbc,cbs,abc,cnn,msnbc,hln.)
Dont Like It

Chicago, IL

#53 Dec 2, 2010
Hate to burst your bubble, but they didn't approve queer marriage, only equal rights for same sex shackups.
bad idea

Paducah, KY

#54 Dec 2, 2010
Just Saying wrote:
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Please provide tons more, because linking an article from a Catholic website that is 10 years old and based on research from decades before that doesn't constitute a reasonable source at this point in time.
No matter what facts I have, you will try to discredit them. Whatever, the facts are out there, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else. I show facts, you show your ignorance. Keep it coming!

By the way, here is another published work: http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/hom...

Check it out. Not my words nor do I claim them to be. I was asked to present more facts, that's all I'm doing. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings, as that is not my intentions.
Mr Fizz

United States

#55 Dec 2, 2010
God made gay folks so this religious argument is PURE bullcrappies. Not everyone believes the same anyway. For you to think so is VERY arrogant. You hate against god's own laws, so perhaps it is YOU who will not enter the gates of heaven if you hate on gays. The bible says nothing about weomen lying with women. Why do you pick that law you claim you saw anyway when you don't follow many laws in the bible that DO exist? Jesus hung with men. Deal with it.
sic

West Terre Haute, IN

#56 Dec 2, 2010
I fill everyone is born straight. things happen in a persons life that turns a person gay
Just Saying

Ashburn, VA

#57 Dec 2, 2010
bad idea wrote:
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Hey dip$h^t, I never said, nor do I, hate anyone or anything. I just said I don't agree with that lifestyle, for the fifth time! Your lack of reading and jumping to conclusions is making me want to hate you!
Wow, sure looks like someone is getting a wee bit upset on the issue. Generally, people get upset because they don't understand something, which leads me to believe that you are having a hard time processing my stance on the issue. Which would mean, you are the one struggling with reading comprehension.

I never claimed you, personally, hated anyone. This topic has nothing to do with me and you on a personal level, and I have no desire to fill it with personal attacks (although, you have attacked me, just to throw that out there). I only claim that your opinion on the topic is based off of misinformation and negative stereotypes. Which is understandable, a lot people are fed a one-sided story and believe it. Sadly, that doesn't make it right.

Furthermore, please go back and read my "5)" regarding your use of the term "lifestyle".
bad idea

Paducah, KY

#58 Dec 2, 2010
Mr Fizz wrote:
God made gay folks so this religious argument is PURE bullcrappies. Not everyone believes the same anyway. For you to think so is VERY arrogant. You hate against god's own laws, so perhaps it is YOU who will not enter the gates of heaven if you hate on gays. The bible says nothing about weomen lying with women. Why do you pick that law you claim you saw anyway when you don't follow many laws in the bible that DO exist? Jesus hung with men. Deal with it.
For the sixth time, I never said I hate gays, but you want to continue to say that. I hate nobody, but I do disagree with the gay lifestyle, again. Hey people, its my opinion. You have one too, and I don't hate you for it. It looks to me like gays are the intolerant one's. Didn't you just say in your above post not everyone believes the same way? You are a hypocrite.
bad idea

Paducah, KY

#59 Dec 2, 2010
Just Saying wrote:
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Wow, sure looks like someone is getting a wee bit upset on the issue. Generally, people get upset because they don't understand something, which leads me to believe that you are having a hard time processing my stance on the issue. Which would mean, you are the one struggling with reading comprehension.
I never claimed you, personally, hated anyone. This topic has nothing to do with me and you on a personal level, and I have no desire to fill it with personal attacks (although, you have attacked me, just to throw that out there). I only claim that your opinion on the topic is based off of misinformation and negative stereotypes. Which is understandable, a lot people are fed a one-sided story and believe it. Sadly, that doesn't make it right.
Furthermore, please go back and read my "5)" regarding your use of the term "lifestyle".
I've never attacked you but I'm starting to want to. It's like talking to a wall with you. Believe what you want, I don't care. You won't change my opinion, and I'm not trying to change yours, just stating the facts, published facts. I bet you can't find any published facts that say homosexuality is safe and condoned worldwide. Heterosexuality is condoned worldwide. Sorry you missed that boat. It is a lifestyle, and a choice, in my opinion. Just like it is my lifestyle and choice to disagree with you and think homosexuality is wrong. You mean to tell me at the age of young adulthood you immediately liked the same sex? If that's what you are saying, wow, and I don't believe you!
Juana

Plymouth, MN

#60 Dec 2, 2010
bad idea wrote:
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Not true oh biblical scholar. Judgement day will be when I die, and I am prepared for my Father's judgement. Once again, the people that are disagreeing with my stance are the one's preaching hatred for non-acceptance. I don't hate anyone or anything, but there are a few things I disagree with, like this particular issue. I do like how people want to quote the bible when it can be used to their advantage, or so they think.
Give us a break, mini-Jesus. Quoting from the bible has the same relevance as quoting from a comic book.

If you don't like gay marriage, don't get one. If gays and their practices don't suite you, don't hang with them and don't practice gay sex (but I bet you like porno of two hot chicks getting it on; don't ya?)

Personally, I can't image why a gay couple would want a religous marriage. I mean, it's like wanting a marriage sanctioned by Zeus. Reality is bad enough, but some also wanna deal with invisible super powerful beings. I don't get it. But still, if that's what some want; fine, knock yourselves out. Live and let live.
bad idea

Paducah, KY

#61 Dec 2, 2010
Juana wrote:
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Give us a break, mini-Jesus. Quoting from the bible has the same relevance as quoting from a comic book.
If you don't like gay marriage, don't get one. If gays and their practices don't suite you, don't hang with them and don't practice gay sex (but I bet you like porno of two hot chicks getting it on; don't ya?)
Personally, I can't image why a gay couple would want a religous marriage. I mean, it's like wanting a marriage sanctioned by Zeus. Reality is bad enough, but some also wanna deal with invisible super powerful beings. I don't get it. But still, if that's what some want; fine, knock yourselves out. Live and let live.
I never quoted the bible, it was one of your gay advocates that did. I just corrected them on it. Read the post before you start with ignorant drivel. How am I not living and let live. You just don't like the fact that I disagree with you. Sorry, get over it or get off the topic!
Just Saying

Ashburn, VA

#63 Dec 2, 2010
bad idea wrote:
<quoted text>
No matter what facts I have, you will try to discredit them. Whatever, the facts are out there, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else. I show facts, you show your ignorance. Keep it coming!
By the way, here is another published work: http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/hom...
Check it out. Not my words nor do I claim them to be. I was asked to present more facts, that's all I'm doing. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings, as that is not my intentions.
Not to be too demanding here, but stop linking things from religious websites. They aren't helping your cause. In fact, when attempting to make an argument, any tie-ins to your personal religion hurt your cause, due to the age old "You prove God exists!" vs. "You prove God doesn't exist!" stalemate. For religious teachings to hold weight in a logical debate, God must exist. Which, we can't prove, and, therefore, hurt your cause.

Moving on:

1) By your thought process on the matter, being Black or Latino makes you more prone to AIDS, as the minorities in the US make up the majority of new AIDS cases each year.

2) By your thought process, being poor and uneducated makes you more likely to get AIDS, because people with a lower socioeconomic status in the US are diagnosed with AIDS each year.

3) By your thought process, being between the ages of 15-24 make you more prone to aids, because about half of new HIV infections occur in this age group.(Most of which are women, which I will touch on next)

4) By your thought process, I can claim that women are more at risk than men for AIDS, because of the anatomical differences in men and women. Women have more ways to contract HIV than their male counterparts.

5) By your thought process, living in the southern regions of the US puts someone at a higher risk for AIDS, because there are more HIV related deaths in the southern portions of the US than other parts of the country.

6) Contrary to what you believe, by your thought process, I can claim being heterosexual puts you at a higher risk for AIDS, because the HIV for heterosexual people is higher than homosexual people when put on a global scale.

When I say "by your thought process", I mean if I were to take current statistics for their face value, without factoring in behavioral risks and how it affects those statistics.

It's easy to look at statistics and form an opinion, but when you look at the statistics and put them into context with the real world they make sense.

For instance, Blacks and Latinos are generally lower on the socioeconomic status scale and have a concentrated population in the southern regions of the US, while the younger portion of these people are generally not as educated on the topic of sex and may not have access to proper preventative measures. With a lack of proper education and resources on the topic, they engage in behaviors that put them at a high risk for contracting HIV.

In summary, it's not the demographic you should target, it's the behavior of the people inside of those demographics.
Did It Hurt

Blue Island, IL

#64 Dec 2, 2010
Homophobes R Todays Nazis wrote:
"Did it Hurt" -- the divorce rate is much lower among gay married couples than it is among straight ones. They also do a better job of nourishing and educating their children. Gays commit fewer crimes, and are far less likely to abuse their children.
Get your facts straight, or just keep on hating blindly. Your choice.
Wow, you are the one with the malicious tone. Considering approximately 10% of the population is gay, that would make sense that they commit fewer crimes.

There are not too many states that allow gay marriage. I am going to take a wait and see attitude on that one for the divorace statistics.

I just do not understand how a gay couple can procreate? That is really funny though!

BTW, can a gay person commit a hate crime on a heterosexual? You appear to be filled with much hostility.
priority check

Wheaton, IL

#65 Dec 2, 2010
Honestly, the state is in financial decay, corruption run amok, unions not sustaintable, debt up to here, schools doing poorly, crime sprees all around Chicago and gay marriage is the top priority? Geesh!

Personally, I dont' care if they are allowed civil unions, but marriage is, always has been and always should be reserved as God intended, between a man and a woman.

Gays: your agenda is boring me. I could not be more tired of this whiney group.
get over it

Downers Grove, IL

#66 Dec 2, 2010
bad idea wrote:
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How can you have a family without natural reproduction? I know your response will be to adopt, but how is that fair to adopt a child and put them in that lifestyle, without a choice? That's no more fair to the child than to have abusive parents, which they don't choose either. By the way, I have every right to state my opinion, just like gays have every right to get all tangled up with each other. Once again, it doesn't affect me personally, other than when it is blatantly flaunted in my face by people that are so openly gay its obnoxious. Maybe you need to learn to be more accepting, not acceptive like you say, of others opinions that differ from yours. Also, everyone does not deserve to have a family. Having a family is a blessing and privilege, not a right of passage like freedom of speech.
Who says that right for you to have children or to raise them; I am sure they are not going to choose you ether. Right!
And trust me I don’t want to see open affection from anyone. Which means you ether!
Just Saying

Ashburn, VA

#67 Dec 2, 2010
bad idea wrote:
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I've never attacked you but I'm starting to want to. It's like talking to a wall with you. Believe what you want, I don't care. You won't change my opinion, and I'm not trying to change yours, just stating the facts, published facts. I bet you can't find any published facts that say homosexuality is safe and condoned worldwide. Heterosexuality is condoned worldwide. Sorry you missed that boat. It is a lifestyle, and a choice, in my opinion. Just like it is my lifestyle and choice to disagree with you and think homosexuality is wrong. You mean to tell me at the age of young adulthood you immediately liked the same sex? If that's what you are saying, wow, and I don't believe you!
You called me "dip$h^t", which would be an attack on a personal level.

You haven't presented any facts that say homosexuality isn't safe, actually. You've only provided religious driven arguments that the "gay lifestyle" is terrible.

I can provide you with more sources than you can shake a stick at as to why anal sex (which appears to be your definition of homosexuality), if performed properly, is safe.

Your appeal to the world's moral compass is also a fallacious argument, an appeal to tradition. Simply because it's generally been accepted that something is wrong over the years, does not mean it is actually wrong. There must be a sound reason behind it.

As for whether it is a choice or not to be gay, I'm not touching that topic. I'm only saying that your reasoning behind homosexuality being wrong is flawed from a logical standpoint.
Just Saying

Ashburn, VA

#68 Dec 2, 2010
Sorry for the double post, my browser went haywire. :S
Helga

East Saint Louis, IL

#69 Dec 2, 2010
So it's ok for gays to get married, but they still can't serve their county? What does a person's sexual preference have to do about how they feel about their country?

“The man they call Vyv.”

Since: Nov 10

Antioch, IL

#70 Dec 2, 2010
bad idea wrote:
Therefore, to answer your question, I, personally, believe it is a choice. I have known people that were hetero for the first 25 years of their life then all of a sudden they were blatantly gay. Isn't that a choice. Yes. Just like they chose to be hetero for the first 25 years of their life. Just my opinion. Be more open, don't hate people just because they have a different opinion than you. I don't hate you because you disagree with me.
You didn't answer my question, you swerved and started talking about other people. To answer your question, no, it is not a choice. Many closeted gays felt they had no choice but to "be hetero" when actually they desired to be with someone else, consciously or subconsciously. The first 25 years of their life were the lie to avoid be persecuted for being different.

My question to you again: Could YOU choose tonight to be gay?

“The man they call Vyv.”

Since: Nov 10

Antioch, IL

#71 Dec 2, 2010
People are morons wrote:
When did you choose to be straight?
Never, I was born a heterosexual. I think you missed the entire point of my commentary.

“The man they call Vyv.”

Since: Nov 10

Antioch, IL

#72 Dec 2, 2010
acorn obama wrote:
gays/namblas want more rights so they can someday make even child molesting & kiddie rape legal ... no gay/nambla marriage at all - AMERICA HAS SPOKEN!
You are a piece of trash. Being gay does not automatically mean you want to molest children. That seems more the providence of priests.

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