Church-state separation put to the te...

Church-state separation put to the test in Ky.

There are 46 comments on the Palladium-Item story from Apr 15, 2014, titled Church-state separation put to the test in Ky.. In it, Palladium-Item reports that:

Baptists make up 25 percent of the state's 4.4 million population but 40 percent of the General Assembly, according to statistics gathered by the 2010 Religious Census by the Association of Statisticians of American Religious Bodies, the Kentucky Baptist Convention and Legislative Research Commission.

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david traversa

Argentina

#1 Apr 16, 2014
They're still a minority either way .. and since when is the US a theocracy ?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Apr 16, 2014
david traversa wrote:
They're still a minority either way .. and since when is the US a theocracy ?
It's not supposed to be, but too many people here want to make it that way.
david traversa

Argentina

#3 Apr 16, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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It's not supposed to be, but too many people here want to make it that way.
Dear boy, rest assured they'll never make it .. The Pseudos are on their way OUT !
juls

Bellefontaine, OH

#5 Apr 16, 2014
I grew up Baptist and understand their ways- all too well. They are like the Mormons and got money and influence on the Appalachian peoples- like a hook in your throat and your wallet and your mind.

They really need help to be freed from this cult of Baptism Church. They make money and are not taxed on their business profits. They tell people how to vote and violate IRS laws. I consider them outlaws and somebody with ass needs to stand up against them.....church and state should be separate.....they cannot hear that message as they want it their way.....and how many times and how many so called religious groups continue to impose their values on us- it is repulsive.

7 try living in Ohio the big Republician stronghold.....it's a war every day and we must look behind our backs everyday....from fear of discrimination and political bullying.......

GO ACTBLUE......donate, promote but most of all use logic.....and when the time is right- GET MAD and DO SOMETHING......come out where you can- they need to know we re human with real human feelings.

I wanted to slam something- now I am ready to fight the fight- donate time or money or fight this blighto n America and it's war machine.....GO.....ACTBLUE.

HEART.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#6 Apr 16, 2014
When will these religidiots realize that inserting THEIR religion into civil law opens the door for OTHER people to insert THEIR religions into civil law???

Just because Baptists have control of the government now, doesn't mean that will always be the case.....

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#7 Apr 16, 2014
david traversa wrote:
They're still a minority either way .. and since when is the US a theocracy ?
Unfortunately if some folks had their way we would be. They get their panties in a knot when asked which religion or religious document should we base such laws on. Sharia law is popular in much of the world.
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#8 Apr 16, 2014
TomInElPaso wrote:
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Unfortunately if some folks had their way we would be. They get their panties in a knot when asked which religion or religious document should we base such laws on. Sharia law is popular in much of the world.
I'm sorry to have to say this but that's where a Dictatorship comes in handy .. Our President would never allow the "religious " telling her what to do when it's against true equality .. She was actually in tears of joy when she signed the nation-wide gay marriage law into effect, in spite of the usual opposition from some groups .. Whatever her faults no Pope or Bishop is going to tell her what to do in these matters .. I know President Obama would like to do the same and the Pseudos won't let him without a deadly struggle .. I'm confident the hour of victory is not far off though .. We will see "E Pluribus Unum " turn into a reality at last .
Fundies R Mentally Eel

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Apr 16, 2014
"The arguments against gay marriage from the Baptists start and end with Bible verses."

That sums it up well enough, except it should read, "The arguments against marriage equality from any opponents start and end with buybull verses."

And they simply cannot grasp that that's not how we make laws.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#10 Apr 16, 2014
This is why they must and shall be forced to adopt the marriage equality laws.

They literally cannot and will not see beyond their own "religious belief" even if it means unfairness for others.

*shrug* As most pundits have now stated, sooner or later this will no longer be a choice for them.
Cordwainer Trout

Greensburg, KY

#11 Apr 16, 2014
The only separation between religion and government actually applicable is the dis-allowance of the absurd position that government can keep those of faith out of government, which is the position of sexual deviants so they can have their sexual deviant religion controlling the government.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#12 Apr 16, 2014
The above post suggests that only "certain views" are allowable.

The term "deviant," by the way, is a Class A instance of name-calling, and will only perpetuate the name-calling from all sides. No matter how snotty and "holier-than-thou" the opinion, the virulently antigay must learn to keep their stained snouts out of the business of others. No one else is interested or will *ever be* interested in what they think of the freedom others exercise to be *EXACTLY* who they want to be and *WILL* be at all times, end of discussion.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#13 Apr 16, 2014
In another thread, interestingly, I was personally "called out" for rudeness toward "religious" views. When I see posts like the above, I *will* continue to have zero, zero, zero respect for "religious" or "moral" views.

It is important to call pig shit *precisely* what it is.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#14 Apr 16, 2014
hi hi wrote:
They literally cannot and will not see beyond their own "religious belief" even if it means unfairness for others.
You're being just as unfair.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#15 Apr 16, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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You're being just as unfair.
See, here's the "wondering" I can interact with. This POST is fair, except for the fact that you state your opinion as fact. But you aren't trolling or attempting to push your views (nonsensically, at that) upon others. It's very pure and clean and straightforward.

I am bluntly wondering if you've had a bad day, and if you did, I *ABSOLUTELY* apologize for adding to it.(The antigay never, never respond to things like this and never acknowledge them. I say them because *I* believe in fairness to others who are attempting, even tepidly, to be fair.)
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#16 Apr 16, 2014
hi hi wrote:
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See, here's the "wondering" I can interact with.
Probably not a good idea, I've got your number.
Fundies R Mentally Eel

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Apr 16, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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You're being just as unfair.
STFU, you ignorant, lying bigot.

"Fair."

Fair will be when homophobes can't show their faces _anywhere_ in public, as opposed to just not at universities, in the entertainment industry, in the high tech world, in educated blue states, but anywhere, including backwards, buybull regions in the US.
Fundies R Mentally Eel

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Apr 16, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The only separation between religion and government actually applicable is the dis-allowance of the absurd position that government can keep those of faith out of government
Oh, you _want_ sharia law in the US? Along with Buddhist law...and scientology law, and Hindu law...and Pagan law.

Hey sick freeek, the government does not get to favor one religion - jaysus - over any others, nor over lack of religious belief.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#19 Apr 16, 2014
Fundies R Mentally Eel wrote:
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STFU, you ignorant, lying bigot.
"Fair."
Fair will be when homophobes can't show their faces _anywhere_ in public, as opposed to just not at universities, in the entertainment industry, in the high tech world, in educated blue states, but anywhere, including backwards, buybull regions in the US.
How typically liberal a response.
boo ya

Virginia Beach, VA

#20 Apr 16, 2014
Fundies R Mentally Eel wrote:
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Fair will be when homophobes can't show their faces _anywhere_ in public.
My, how the left loves payback........
Cordwainer Trout

Greensburg, KY

#21 Apr 16, 2014
Fundies R Mentally Eel wrote:
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STFU, you ignorant, lying bigot.
"Fair."
Fair will be when homophobes can't show their faces _anywhere_ in public, as opposed to just not at universities, in the entertainment industry, in the high tech world, in educated blue states, but anywhere, including backwards, buybull regions in the US.
This guy sounds like he actually believes being against sexual depravity is a bad thing. This probably comes from being on his knees too long, but not in prayer.

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