Cook concealed carry scaled back

Jan 21, 2013 Full story: Ruidoso News 21

Cook, R-Ruidoso, introduced legislation two years ago that would have allowed people with permits for concealed handguns to bring their firearms to public schools, college campuses, liquor establishments, state parks and onto buses.

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OMG

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#1 Jan 24, 2013
Better get this guy's mental capacity checked out? Who IS he representing? Clearly not the majority of his constituents? Better check his campaign donors.
Start looking for a candidate for his seat that is in touch with his voters. Cook is dangerously ignorant.
Think of all the bills he could bring forward that would be important economically to our strapped community.....and he chooses guns in bars? That's really important to the person without a job!!!
This guy's gotta go.

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#2 Jan 24, 2013
OMG wrote:
Better get this guy's mental capacity checked out? Who IS he representing? Clearly not the majority of his constituents? Better check his campaign donors.
Start looking for a candidate for his seat that is in touch with his voters. Cook is dangerously ignorant.
Think of all the bills he could bring forward that would be important economically to our strapped community.....and he chooses guns in bars? That's really important to the person without a job!!!
This guy's gotta go.
If there is a choice of having a representative protect our rights or get involved in our business, I choose the former.
Go Zack. BTW OMG stay in Arizona, they deserve you.

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#3 Jan 24, 2013
OMG, there are already guns in bars whether you know it or not. You want to keep those who've gone through training, a background check, and finger printed out. Where is the sense in that? You must be pro-criminal? Let's keep everyone with a drivers license out, we'll reduce DUI's....O.L.

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#4 Jan 24, 2013
OMG wrote:
Better get this guy's mental capacity checked out? Who IS he representing? Clearly not the majority of his constituents?
Come on OMG, who needs his mental capacity checked? Screw the majority, this isn't a democracy....O.L.
gun wise not gun foolish

Ruidoso, NM

#5 Jan 24, 2013
oladcock wrote:
OMG, there are already guns in bars whether you know it or not. You want to keep those who've gone through training, a background check, and finger printed out. Where is the sense in that? You must be pro-criminal? Let's keep everyone with a drivers license out, we'll reduce DUI's....O.L.
Got news for ya old cock. It is illagal to carry a firearm anywhere that is alcohol served. Where are they offering training that teaches drunks on how to shoot or manage thier firearms. It is rediculous arguements like yours that makes responsible gun enthusiasts look like idiots. Here is an idea...Next time you get really wasted, think about how it might be a great time to get all your loaded guns out and clean them.

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#6 Jan 24, 2013
Gun foolish wise not, I'm licenced in 2 states, I know that. Now ask me if I care. We can carry in places that only serve wine/beer if it's less than 51% of their gross receipts. Now how the hell are we supposed to know that? Yep places that dispense hard stuff is a no no, even if it's a restaurant like Applebee's. A little truth of life, it's no bodies business where I carry or how. Those who might see the business end aren't following the law, why should I. Get killed or let someone else get killed because of a piece of paper written by stupid people elected by you? Concealed is concealed. You'll never know unless the SHTF and at that point no one's going to care. If I was to get caught, it's a petty misdemeanor, I'll pay my $35 and be on my way. Chaps your ass don't it!:)...O.L.
gun wise not gun foolish

Ruidoso, NM

#7 Jan 24, 2013
oladcock wrote:
Gun foolish wise not, I'm licenced in 2 states, I know that. Now ask me if I care. We can carry in places that only serve wine/beer if it's less than 51% of their gross receipts. Now how the hell are we supposed to know that? Yep places that dispense hard stuff is a no no, even if it's a restaurant like Applebee's. A little truth of life, it's no bodies business where I carry or how. Those who might see the business end aren't following the law, why should I. Get killed or let someone else get killed because of a piece of paper written by stupid people elected by you? Concealed is concealed. You'll never know unless the SHTF and at that point no one's going to care. If I was to get caught, it's a petty misdemeanor, I'll pay my $35 and be on my way. Chaps your ass don't it!:)...O.L.
If you carry in violation of the law you do not need a license and you might as well get drunk while you are at it. Hell, you should conceal a stick of dynomite on your persons also since the law is not written for us gun enthusiasts...you know, just in case a real bar fight breaks out while you are there.
Wachary

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#9 Jan 25, 2013
"Cook said in an interview that his constituents want the gun-rights law expanded for safety reasons. He said they are most vulnerable to an accident when disarming themselves or holstering a handgun. Having to remove a gun before going to dinner at a restaurant heightens the safety problem, Cook said.

In addition, those with carry permits do not like leaving their guns in cars when they enter a liquor establishment. That creates the possibility of theft, Cook said."

Soooo, they are less vulnerable to shooting themselves or others after a few toddies?
Got it.
cop

Ruidoso, NM

#11 Jan 25, 2013
Wachary wrote:
"Cook said in an interview that his constituents want the gun-rights law expanded for safety reasons. He said they are most vulnerable to an accident when disarming themselves or holstering a handgun. Having to remove a gun before going to dinner at a restaurant heightens the safety problem, Cook said.
In addition, those with carry permits do not like leaving their guns in cars when they enter a liquor establishment. That creates the possibility of theft, Cook said."
Soooo, they are less vulnerable to shooting themselves or others after a few toddies?
Got it.
I have taken my gun on and off twice a day for 19 years without a single incident. If a person cannot take his or her gun off without a chance of an accidential discharge, then they have no business with a gun. Got It?
Reality

Ruidoso, NM

#12 Jan 25, 2013
cop wrote:
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I have taken my gun on and off twice a day for 19 years without a single incident. If a person cannot take his or her gun off without a chance of an accidential discharge, then they have no business with a gun. Got It?
To me the issue os more of having to lock up your gun in your vehicle. How many auto burglaries do we have? You want you gun being stolen by some a-hole?
Gerald

Ruidoso, NM

#15 Jan 25, 2013
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>To me the issue os more of having to lock up your gun in your vehicle. How many auto burglaries do we have? You want you gun being stolen by some a-hole?
Buy a gun safe for your auto. Chances of them stealing your gun is about zero. If cook wants to write a new bill, it should require every CC licensee to have a gun safe in thier auto. But I guess then these weekend warriors will complain about the risk of losing the key or the combination.

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#16 Jan 25, 2013
cop wrote:
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I have taken my gun on and off twice a day for 19 years without a single incident. If a person cannot take his or her gun off without a chance of an accidential discharge, then they have no business with a gun. Got It?
Yep, myself and wife as well for more than that. The police plotters are full of firearms stolen from vehicles. I'd venture to guess more of the guns in criminals hands come from auto thefts than home bugleries. First thing I was taught at about 6 years old was alcohol and firearms don't mix. Again a bunch of you pinheads want to punish the responsible people yet do nothing about the criminals. Gun control laws from the start were rascist and elitist, still are today and so are those who support them......O.L.

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#18 Jan 25, 2013
QD, you are a 100 years off. When Capt Parker mustered his men on Lexingon green about 2am April 19 1775, and there were no sign of the regulars, he told his men to disperse but stay close to the muster drums, some decided to head to the tavern. It was impolite to carry firearms in a tavern, just social protocol, no law. How do you unload a musket? You shoot it.

At this very time frame Paul Revere had been captured between Lexington and Concord by a red coat patrol and was being questioned with a pistol to his head. He told them they'd better stay out of Lexington because there were 500 men (an exaggeration, really only 70) waiting on them. The regulars laughed at such a tall tale. Then they heard multiple muskets go off toward Lexington that convinced them PR was telling the truth. This shaped the mindset of the red coats rest of the day and had a hand in those first shots being fired.

As for the stats, I said it was a guess but so what if it's only 25% or 10%, it's still a lot of guns getting into bad guys hands. You guys miss the point, those guns are already in those bars period. I don't go into bars but do restaurants, the fact no one can keep the bad guys out is even MORE reason I'm going to carry mine. Simple fact of life. I'd say curl up in the fetal position at home if you are so scared of good guys with guns but the bad guys will find you there too.

Most of you anti's will be diagnosed with a mental disorder called hoplophobia, but that's OK, Obama care will cover it.....O.L.
OMG

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#19 Jan 25, 2013
gunslinger wrote:
concealed carry holders, while carrying are required by NM state concealed carry law to not consume ANY alcohol
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Unbelieveable argument from Cook on why this bill should become law!!!He didn't even use any of old cock's arguements for the EXPANSION of the rights gun carriers already have. Cook is basically saying that his "responsible and trustworthy" consituents have trouble undressing themselves? WOW! Give em a snort or two with their guns strapped on and see how quick they shoot their toes off if they can't dress themselves sober!!!!! Nope, there is more to this little story and surely it has to do with re-election and $$$$$.
Cook is nominated for the whack-a-mole award-no one else is even a close contender.

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#20 Jan 25, 2013
OMG, it seems that a person with even your limited intelligence would understand that those who would disarm us are just as wrong, just as violent and just as guilty as those who would assault us.

Gun Owner

Victim

Pick one.
OMG

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#21 Jan 26, 2013
The Angry Voter wrote:
OMG, it seems that a person with even your limited intelligence would understand that those who would disarm us are just as wrong, just as violent and just as guilty as those who would assault us.
Gun Owner
Victim
Pick one.
Angry Voter
Oldacock
Me, myself, and I

Pick one

Even one such as I, with "limited intelligence" can spot one such as you!
Say what what

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#22 Jan 27, 2013
OMG wrote:
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Unbelieveable argument from Cook on why this bill should become law!!!He didn't even use any of old cock's arguements for the EXPANSION of the rights gun carriers already have. Cook is basically saying that his "responsible and trustworthy" consituents have trouble undressing themselves? WOW! Give em a snort or two with their guns strapped on and see how quick they shoot their toes off if they can't dress themselves sober!!!!! Nope, there is more to this little story and surely it has to do with re-election and $$$$$.
Cook is nominated for the whack-a-mole award-no one else is even a close contender.
Exactly! His argument makes no sense. Fyi, This is the same guy who wants to spend our taxpayer money on even more useless items in this county. Instead of where it would be truly useful. It's all there folks, in the roundhouse reports.

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#23 Jan 27, 2013
OMG wrote:
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Angry Voter
Oldacock
Me, myself, and I
Pick one
Even one such as I, with "limited intelligence" can spot one such as you!
Nice try omg, OL lives in Roswell, I live in Ruidoso. It's obvious,
if you cannot counter an argument effectively you cast dispersions.
LOL
Sad Commentary

Capitan, NM

#24 Jan 28, 2013
A lot of the recent gun violence has been commited in gun free zones. So much for the signs on the doors.
I suspect that the majority of opponents to this bill don't know much about the training and the responsiblities that go with concealed carry. Find a concealed carry class and sign up. You don't have to participate in the shooting portion (you won't get a CHL either), but at least you will be educated. It is YOUR right NOT to carry a gun, but DO NOT infringe on my right to defend my family.
Remember: when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
Cliche, but the plain truth.
OMG

United States

#25 Jan 29, 2013
Sad Commentary wrote:
A lot of the recent gun violence has been commited in gun free zones. So much for the signs on the doors.
I suspect that the majority of opponents to this bill don't know much about the training and the responsiblities that go with concealed carry. Find a concealed carry class and sign up. You don't have to participate in the shooting portion (you won't get a CHL either), but at least you will be educated. It is YOUR right NOT to carry a gun, but DO NOT infringe on my right to defend my family.
Remember: when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
Cliche, but the plain truth.
Yeah-ole cock teaches that class doesn't he-or you? Is the class in Placitas? Be careful, in your haste to cram your beliefs down our throats, you may forget who you are. LOL

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