Kansas Sperm Donor For Lesbian Couple Faces Child Support Suit From State

[barry]

DNF wrote:

<quoted text>thanks but I wish I could agree. You haven't met this niece. Not trying to be nasty but IMO the girl isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. She takes after her mother more than she admits.

ok, that's interesting, i guess i'll stick to the issues of my own family. hope it all works out for the best.

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Happy new year, glad to see you're still spry as ever.

you to sweetie

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

NoQ wrote:

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Did your pimp let you off today??? LMFAO

must suck being a NoIQ person as you.... given i have no pimp... i strip and escort completely on my terms

[Pattysboi]

fr NoQ:

>Did...<

Reported. PLEASE grow UP. Act your age instead of your shoe size.

[TomInElPaso]

Just love the when your posts get pulled.

Pig.

NoQ wrote:

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Fk you, you CSing Dyke. You and your Dyke lover. You dam shiteaters.

[TomInElPaso]

When enough of them are pulled they'll block your ISP and close you down. Then you'll have to find something else to masturbate with.

That is why you post here isn't it?

NoQ wrote:

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Fa$$ot, and how does that hurt me???

[KittenKoder]

NoQ wrote:

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See Fa$$ot, I'm still here. LMFAO

So ... you're a script kiddy too. When do you go back to elementary school? Is your winter break not yet over?

[DNF]

barry wrote:

<quoted text>ok, that's interesting, i guess i'll stick to the issues of my own family. hope it all works out for the best.

Thanks. Keep us in your prayers. I'll remember you as well.

Happy New Year.

[snyper]

RalphB wrote:

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Amen to that! I had a lesbian couple who were friends for about 10 years. They asked me if I would be a donor, so they could have a child. I pondered that question for about 2 weeks, and finally decided I didn't want to have any part in it. I informed them as gently as I could, and explained my reasons. They took offense, and they haven't talked to me since. In light of this story, I'm happy I didn't do it. They broke up after about 5 years after that, and I could very well have been stuck paying for a baby's upbringing. I'm really happy I dodged that bullet. Lesson to be learned is to check out ALL the legalities before entering into such an arrangement.

The way it is handled is that the non-bioparent adopts the other's child. Part of that process is the donor formally surrenders all parental rights. Once the adoption is finalized, no case can be made.

[AzAdam]

snyper wrote:

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The way it is handled is that the non-bioparent adopts the other's child. Part of that process is the donor formally surrenders all parental rights. Once the adoption is finalized, no case can be made.

In Arizona, 2nd parent adoption is not legal. Both bio parents must give up their parental rights in order for the child to be adopted. 2 people must be legally married in order to adopt jointly. We had to go to other states to ensure both of our names appear on the birth certificates of our children.

With the money all the legal stuff took, we could have put them through college.

In Maryland we used 2nd parent adoption. In California we used a surrogacy contract.

[snyper]

AzAdam wrote:

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In Arizona, 2nd parent adoption is not legal. Both bio parents must give up their parental rights in order for the child to be adopted. 2 people must be legally married in order to adopt jointly. We had to go to other states to ensure both of our names appear on the birth certificates of our children.
With the money all the legal stuff took, we could have put them through college.
In Maryland we used 2nd parent adoption. In California we used a surrogacy contract.

So you're saying that in Arizona a widow's second husband cannot adopt any of her children?

[RalphB]

snyper wrote:

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The way it is handled is that the non-bioparent adopts the other's child. Part of that process is the donor formally surrenders all parental rights. Once the adoption is finalized, no case can be made.

That all sounds fine, but when this all happened with me it was not so easy. Remember this all took place in the 80's in Missouri. So I think, in retrospect, that what I did was right for the circumstance at the time. Today I might make a different decision, but I highly doubt the situation will come up.

[oh yeah]

All of you are barking up the wrong tree.

The loophole the state is using to go after the "father" is that they didn't use an IVF Doctor to conceive.

The IVF industry is very lucrative and doesn't want any competition from "home brewers"

[Rick in Kansas]

oh yeah wrote:

All of you are barking up the wrong tree.
The loophole the state is using to go after the "father" is that they didn't use an IVF Doctor to conceive.
The IVF industry is very lucrative and doesn't want any competition from "home brewers"

Shhh, you're not supposed to know that; the official reason for this loophole is to prevent fraud.

[AzAdam]

snyper wrote:

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So you're saying that in Arizona a widow's second husband cannot adopt any of her children?

If they're married he can. Gay couples can't.