Need to Read: Meet Clwyd Davies.. the pensioner who hoards horses

Jan 5, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: IcNetwork

He was once a prize winning horse breeder whose animals won the admiration of audiences at the Royal Welsh Show.

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Wendy Arnold

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Having just watched the programme on TV, I feel I have to comment. I admire greatly the wonderful lady who is assisting in his stressful situation who not only has concerns for the animals but for Clwyd and his welfare. The RSPCA should take on board what she has done. Don't you think it would have been more cost effective to provide Clwyd with the worming products and offer to castrate the colts so there was no more 'breeding' accidents. The horses that we saw on TV were all in good condition, in fact the RSPCA should take a closer look at the poor sheep in farmers fields that have such sore feet they can't even walk. To prosecute the poor man seems a pointless and costly exercise that monies used to prosecute would have been better spent by assisting Clwyd. We should all remember that the RSPCA is a private charity that has a huge record of the destruction of animals .... And has a large amount of money in their account - we should stop putting them on a pedestal. The RSPCA should think more about re-homing animals than destroying them. They should think, first and foremost, that it is a charity for the welfare of animals not a money making machine for for the directors and employees ... not destroying the tens and thousands of animals that they do year on year. As a final word, Clwyd is by no means stupid, he has merely lost his way after the tragic loss of his daughter and is more to be assisted and praised rather than persecuted.
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Having just watched the programme on TV, I feel I have to comment. I admire greatly the wonderful lady who is assisting in his stressful situation who not only has concerns for the animals but for Clwyd and his welfare. The RSPCA should take on board what she has done. Don't you think it would have been more cost effective to provide Clwyd with the worming products and offer to castrate the colts so there was no more 'breeding' accidents. The horses that we saw on TV were all in good condition, in fact the RSPCA should take a closer look at the poor sheep in farmers fields that have such sore feet they can't even walk. To prosecute the poor man seems a pointless and costly exercise that monies used to prosecute would have been better spent by assisting Clwyd. We should all remember that the RSPCA is a private charity that has a huge record of the destruction of animals .... And has a large amount of money in their account - we should stop putting them on a pedestal. The RSPCA should think more about re-homing animals than destroying them. They should think, first and foremost, that it is a charity for the welfare of animals not a money making machine for for the directors and employees ... not destroying the tens and thousands of animals that they do year on year. As a final word, Clwyd is by no means stupid, he has merely lost his way after the tragic loss of his daughter and is more to be assisted and praised rather than persecuted.
hello, I totally agree, his horses look well and trust him , why interfer with him, this is his only way of life since his daughter died , we should help him, not prosecute him
Wendy Arnold

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Thank you ... Someone else that sees sense. If he was closer to me I'd help him myself.
Sara Jenkins

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Yes so would I , he has a good heart and his horses look well, particularly now he has help. He needs help not prosecution
Nicky

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Those horses looked plenty happy enough to me, and didn't look underweight at all. As for spending who knows how much money prosecuting him, what a waste! That money would have been much better spent providing him with wormers or castrating the colts. Clwyd looks like a true horseman, through and through.
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I totally agree with everything that's been said here! This programme didn't do anything for the RSPCA's reputation, it made them look like a bunch of incompetent, clueless, heartless idiots!!! The stress they put that black mare under, was simply uncalled for, and the fact that she was able to gallop away from them n put up such a fight, gave me the impression that she couldn't have been that ill!
As that woman said, he was living in them horrid conditions and all anyone cared about was the horses.... Madness!
Brian C Brown

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Sorry but unless they have changed DRASTICALLY over the past 15 years or so the RSPCA are a bunch of worthless morons ..Basically lining the charities coffers rather than helping the animals.There are LOADS of cases every year where they will not help abused animals and here they are trying to persecute an old man who is trying to help..
Maybe the fat-cats at the RSPCA should get off their backsides and provide this man (Who OBVIOUSLY loves and "knows" his animals)some well deserved help...Maybe they could also give him a BIG pat on the back for doing THEIR JOB!!!
mrs shocked

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I feel the "wonderful lady" who is supposedly helping Mr Davies is doing it for the money. This woman takes rescue horses and gets paid by the RSPCA for keeping them and then sells them on AD HORSE. Its not for the love its for the money. Mrs Crowther states how shocked she is that people are worried for the animals when Mr Davies is living in squalid conditions.....His choice!! Why doesnt she have him living with her if she feels so strong?? At one point Mr Davies expressed how he felt when he said he is paying 35 per weel livery and will end up with not a penny from the sale. Wonder if its all declared to inland revenue.!!
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This man will not see any of that money. Really, if this woman knew anything about horses, breeding, lineage etc she would quickly realise that the best thing to do would be to put a lot of the horses down. Sad I know but they will almost certainly be inbred. Its because of rubbish being bred that the prices of horses has come to nothing. It would be easy to befriend a lonely vulnerable man and take over his stock and look like a good samaritan but its not unpaid!!
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I agree with the comments above - most of these horses were well and happy! I wanted to hit the people from the RSPCA and how they frightened the horses and caused them more suffering than Clwyd. Clwyd I know you!! When I was a teenager I helped look after your prize winning Black Welsh Cob Stallion you called ' Dyfed'. I lived in Wales in the 1970s at the time and you drove me ( a long way for me) to the fields you own ( think - but not sure as i was young- they were the same ones in the film) where you had a good fifty horses you were breeding. I can never thank you enough for the joy you gave me in allowing me near your horses and helping you with Dyfed. You instilled a love of horses I will never lose. I was petrified of horses even though I loved them and you helped me get over that fear. I was the very shy dark curly haired girl Jo Ann who never said a word! You are an amazing man. Keep up the good work! Xxx
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mrs shocked wrote:
I feel the "wonderful lady" who is supposedly helping Mr Davies is doing it for the money. This woman takes rescue horses and gets paid by the RSPCA for keeping them and then sells them on AD HORSE. Its not for the love its for the money. Mrs Crowther states how shocked she is that people are worried for the animals when Mr Davies is living in squalid conditions.....His choice!! Why doesnt she have him living with her if she feels so strong?? At one point Mr Davies expressed how he felt when he said he is paying 35 per weel livery and will end up with not a penny from the sale. Wonder if its all declared to inland revenue.!!
How do you know this? Have you seen the books/accounts? Why are people so quick to run down people who help out others? If this woman covers her own expenses I have no problem with that. The genuine friendship between her and Clwyd was clear to see and feel through the film. She clearly said all the money of the sale went to the keep and well being of all his horses - if you know about horses you know how costly that is and profit for self gain is a pipe dream.35 per week for total keep and training of THREE horses is peanuts and no where near the 'reality' of real fees for such a service. I imagine that this also is likely to be paid from the sales.
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These horses looked well but it was coming into the summer. What would they look like in January. What were the feet like ?? He isn't a nasty man and I think a knowledgeble man where horses are concerned but that doesn't mean he should get away with neglect. Mrs Crowther is lucky that little colt was king natured anyone who knows about horses knows that they will pull away from pressure the way she was trying to get it into that stable. She was lucky.
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"I dont like to see them go, I always get a bit of a lump" !!!!(of money)
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did you see the bit where michelle tried to tell him "thoroughbreds will kill foals" never heard such a load of rubbish in all my horsing years and im 58. realistically in comparison with what Clwyd really knows , she knows very little
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Jo Ann wrote:
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How do you know this? Have you seen the books/accounts? Why are people so quick to run down people who help out others? If this woman covers her own expenses I have no problem with that. The genuine friendship between her and Clwyd was clear to see and feel through the film. She clearly said all the money of the sale went to the keep and well being of all his horses - if you know about horses you know how costly that is and profit for self gain is a pipe dream.35 per week for total keep and training of THREE horses is peanuts and no where near the 'reality' of real fees for such a service. I imagine that this also is likely to be paid from the sales.
Nobody has said its not legit.. but mr davies himseld has said he is not happy that there will be nothing left for him. whilst it is good what she is doing one must remember it is not for nothing.. that is all
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If anyone here REALLY has any love of horses you will understand why this man lives as he does..Why judge how he wishes to live...
Just because he has no wish for electricity etc,etc..That's up to him,and if he does this to try to help his herd..Then my hat is off to him.
When times have been hard my wife and I have had to go without things for the benefit of our herd...and we were glad to do it...Let this man be...Help him out with those that he cares for..and tell the do-gooders who wish to
"Help for his own sake" that this is what he wishes in life!!
Supply some extra hay,grain,meds instead of fussing over things that don't matter..give him some REAL help!!!
Bella 74

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I have to say something.

Hats of to Clwyd & Michelle.

RSPCA well they are just a shower of sh!t. Why do they insist on publicising their incompetance?

May be they should pay Clywd for some of his equestrian knowledge instead of harrasing him. That money would have at least been well spent.

This gentleman clearly adores his horses, and the horses clearly trusted him. They all looked in a fair state, I've seen a lot worse at shows etc.He just needs some help, after such a tragedy in his life.

As for Mechelle, well great. No one else is doing anything practical to help him.

My overall impression is bugger off RSPCA.

Well done to Mechelle and I hope they remain friends.

Please don't moan about peoples motives unless you are prepared to help him yourself. Just thank the lord for people like Mechelle.
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So true that the RSPCA should put their funds into helping with worming and castration rather than prosecution! Are they blind, can't they see that this is a really good man who loves his horses and just needs a little help. As for Michelle, who else is helping him, if she is trying to cover her costs what's wrong with that - would you have her lose out financially as well as put in lots of time to helping - she needs to be practical about this or she will end up broke!! If she does make some money, which she then is putting into her rescue centre and continued support for Clwyd, then thats between her and Clwyd, who are we to judge. The REAL villians of this are the RSPCA - once again spending precious funds on solicitors and court costs instead of helping animials. They spent over 320,000 (!!!!) on prosecuting the Heythrop hunt - that is just obscene and someone should investigate them. Well done Michelle, and good luck Clwyd!
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Regan wrote:
<quoted text> hello, I totally agree, his horses look well and trust him , why interfer with him, this is his only way of life since his daughter died , we should help him, not prosecute him
Totally agree

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