Girl aged 13 raped in car park

Nov 20, 2010 Full story: BBC News 52

A 13-year-old girl has been raped in Berkshire by a man who gave her a lift in his car.

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Allegedly Raped

Ashland, KY

#1 Nov 20, 2010
How is it the news media knows she was really raped, where they watching it? Whatever happened to reporters who were fair and balanced and did not take sides? The headline in the story should have been "Female Allegedly Raped".

“Keep Britain Pagan”

Since: Jun 08

London, UK

#2 Nov 20, 2010
She was 13.

Regardless of consent, this man is a nonce and should be castrated with rusty secateurs, without anaesthetic.
Blunt Mocker

Nuneaton, UK

#3 Nov 20, 2010
he was BLACK???? tell me it ain't so?

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

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#5 Nov 20, 2010
Allegedly Raped wrote:
How is it the news media knows she was really raped, where they watching it? Whatever happened to reporters who were fair and balanced and did not take sides? The headline in the story should have been "Female Allegedly Raped".
All too often, we have trial by media.(I think it's much the same in the USA.) One of the founding principles of British constitution, established in the 13th century and fought over by millions in two world wars, is that of the right to be deemed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

The way some people are just willing to wipe away our hard-won freedoms, we might just as well hand the country over to the Taliban.

“Keep Britain Pagan”

Since: Jun 08

London, UK

#6 Nov 20, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
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All too often, we have trial by media.(I think it's much the same in the USA.) One of the founding principles of British constitution, established in the 13th century and fought over by millions in two world wars, is that of the right to be deemed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
The way some people are just willing to wipe away our hard-won freedoms, we might just as well hand the country over to the Taliban.
I'm sorry, but how can it be trial by media if the girl was 13?

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

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#7 Nov 20, 2010
_Gaz wrote:
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I'm sorry, but how can it be trial by media if the girl was 13?
What difference does the age of the victim make?

Since: Sep 08

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#8 Nov 20, 2010
I guess her parents didn't tell her not to go on cars of people she don't know, especially cars driven by Blacks.

“Keep Britain Pagan”

Since: Jun 08

London, UK

#9 Nov 20, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
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What difference does the age of the victim make?
Did you type that with a straight face?

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

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#10 Nov 20, 2010
_Gaz wrote:
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Did you type that with a straight face?
No, I suspect I had a puzzled frown on my face.

I really DO want to know what difference the age of the victim makes as to whether trial-by-media is acceptable to you.

I will state it clearly in case you are not sure, the legal and ancient right we all have, of a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, has no variance on the gender, age, race, religion or any other factor of the victim.

Now, regardless of conjecture over my facial expression, please do let us know what difference YOU think the age of the victim makes as to whether the presumption of innocence should be waived.

“Keep Britain Pagan”

Since: Jun 08

London, UK

#11 Nov 20, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
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No, I suspect I had a puzzled frown on my face.
I really DO want to know what difference the age of the victim makes as to whether trial-by-media is acceptable to you.
I will state it clearly in case you are not sure, the legal and ancient right we all have, of a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, has no variance on the gender, age, race, religion or any other factor of the victim.
Now, regardless of conjecture over my facial expression, please do let us know what difference YOU think the age of the victim makes as to whether the presumption of innocence should be waived.
Where are you from? Saudi Arabia?

A 13 year old girl is not considered old enough to give consent to sex in this country.
Pov

Harrow, UK

#12 Nov 21, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
What difference does the age of the victim make?
Really?........Really?

You really need explaining why rape of a child is different than that of an adult?

If that had happened to an adult, I'd still want to see the maximum sentence given to the rapist, fcuk, castrate the scum I say. But part of me would think, you're an adult, you should know better.

But children are vunerable. The blance of power between a child and an adult is so one-sided that it's very easy to dominate a minor both physically and mentally. This is why even consensual relations between adults and minors must constitute as rape.

To be honest, I can't believe I've had to explain that to you. You're either a pathetic troll, or you're getting off on this story. I mean, it's stamped all over your personal page isn't it, you like to dominate.......Hmmmm.

You know what, I'd rather not know thank you.
Pov

Harrow, UK

#13 Nov 21, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
as to whether trial-by-media is acceptable to you.
What?

The police are appealing for any infomation to get a dangerous and sick, twisted rapist off the streets, and you're worried about human rights before any body has even been caught?

I don't think any sane person would think,'oh well, this black guy will do'.

If this guy isn't caught, and soon, the chances are he'll do it again, and ruin another poor childs and families life for ever, and you're banging on about the Magna Carta?

You're a fcuking weirdo buddy, you know that?
Blunt Mocker

Nuneaton, UK

#14 Nov 21, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
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All too often, we have trial by media.(I think it's much the same in the USA.) One of the founding principles of British constitution, established in the 13th century and fought over by millions in two world wars, is that of the right to be deemed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
The way some people are just willing to wipe away our hard-won freedoms, we might just as well hand the country over to the Taliban.
yes, black men must have their hard-fought-for freedom to rape young girls.

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

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#15 Nov 21, 2010
_Gaz wrote:
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Where are you from? Saudi Arabia?
A 13 year old girl is not considered old enough to give consent to sex in this country.
I see, so by your idea of justice, if an under-age girl accuses you of rape you are therefore guilty of rape.

Out of interest, if a woman over the age of consent accuses you of rape, does that also make you guilty?

I'm glad I don't live in the kind of fascist state you would want.

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

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#16 Nov 21, 2010
Pov wrote:
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Really?........Really?
You really need explaining why rape of a child is different than that of an adult?
If that had happened to an adult, I'd still want to see the maximum sentence given to the rapist, fcuk, castrate the scum I say. But part of me would think, you're an adult, you should know better.
But children are vunerable. The blance of power between a child and an adult is so one-sided that it's very easy to dominate a minor both physically and mentally. This is why even consensual relations between adults and minors must constitute as rape.
To be honest, I can't believe I've had to explain that to you. You're either a pathetic troll, or you're getting off on this story. I mean, it's stamped all over your personal page isn't it, you like to dominate.......Hmmmm.
You know what, I'd rather not know thank you.
Where have I said anything in favour of a rapist? Where have I said anything that indicates that I don't think rape - and especially of a young girl - is a horrible crime?

BUT in terms of the presumption of innocence the law makes no difference to that age of the victim and I DO think that is good and correct.

I can't believe how many people just want to illegally accuse, condemn and sentence someone without the due process of law that they would undoubtedly look to for protection themselves.

Don't twist my words if you are going to try criticizing or debating with me: it just makes you look like an illegal fool.

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#17 Nov 21, 2010
Pov wrote:
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What?
The police are appealing for any infomation to get a dangerous and sick, twisted rapist off the streets, and you're worried about human rights before any body has even been caught?
I don't think any sane person would think,'oh well, this black guy will do'.
Aha! So now you are agreeing with me. The guy isn't guilty, no-one is guilty yet. Yes, let us by all means make sure we catch the RIGHT guy for this, and soon, put him through due process of law and punish him to the maximum. Personally, I think that rapist (male and female) should get far tougher treatment than the law currently allows.
Pov wrote:
<quoted text>If this guy isn't caught, and soon, the chances are he'll do it again, and ruin another poor childs and families life for ever, and you're banging on about the Magna Carta?
You're a fcuking weirdo buddy, you know that?
No, actually I think the weird people are those who want to get a lynch mob together, accuse someone (and even "all blacks" like some of the posters here imply) and then illegally string them up. I hope such people never get into politics of the justice system.

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

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#18 Nov 21, 2010
Blunt Mocker wrote:
<quoted text>yes, black men must have their hard-fought-for freedom to rape young girls.
And you accuse all black men without evidence or fair trail. Says a lot about you.

“Male”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#19 Nov 21, 2010
_Gaz wrote:
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Where are you from? Saudi Arabia?
A 13 year old girl is not considered old enough to give consent to sex in this country.
Oh, golly, here I am telling you what the law is and you think I don't know this?

For the third time since you challenged Britain's laws and expressed favour of trial-by-media, let us know what difference YOU think the age of the victim makes as to whether the presumption of innocence should be waived.
Pov

Harrow, UK

#20 Nov 21, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
Where have I said anything in favour of a rapist? Where have I said anything that indicates that I don't think rape - and especially of a young girl - is a horrible crime?
That wasn't what I responded to though, was it.

I was explaining why rape of a minor carries a much harher penalty than that of an adult.
Interesdom wrote:
What difference does the age of the victim make?
No twisting of words there.
Pov

Harrow, UK

#21 Nov 21, 2010
Interesdom wrote:
Aha! So now you are agreeing with me
I beg to differ.
Interesdom wrote:
The guy isn't guilty
Did you read the story? He hasn't been caught yet.

Due to the nature of the police appeal, there is most probably strong forensic evidence that backs up her rape claim, eg: bruising, DNA ect.

So yes, he 'Is' guilty.

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