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Donald's Call to 'Legalise Marijuana' Angers Campaigners

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How come the voice over for Dr. Claudia Jenson doesn't even come close to the way her lips are moving? Is this really her testimonial, or am I high?

Bottom line, Howard Donald is a boy band singer and not any more of an expert about the harms and dangers of marijuana then the next boy band singer. Also, his statements had nothing do do about medical marijuana....try again some other day.

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You forget the rules=="Anybody speaking in favor of pot, no matter how unqualified, is more credible than ANYBODY not speaking in favor of it, no matter how qualified".
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Bottom line, Howard Donald is a boy band singer and not any more of an expert about the harms and dangers of marijuana then the next boy band singer. Also, his statements had nothing do do about medical marijuana....try again some other day.
We always hear about these harms and dangers of marijuana by these government paid alleged experts, yet the facts don't back up their statements.

-Tobacco related deaths = 435,000

-Alcohol related deaths = 85,000

-Marijuana related deaths = 0

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/causes.htm

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You know what's funny? The 60s generation always said that when they were in charge, things would be different. Pot would not only be legal but subsidized.

Well, they've been in charge for quite a while now. Guess they took another look.
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Under the name cannabis, 19th century medical practitioners sold the drug,(usually as a tincture) popularizing the word amongst English-speakers. It was rumored that Queen Victoria's menstrual pains were treated with cannabis, because her personal physician, Sir John Russell Reynolds, wrote an article in the first edition of the medical journal The Lancet about the benefits of cannabis.[1] Cannabis users included nineteenth century literary figures Robert Louis Stevenson,[2] and Le Club des Hashishins members Victor Hugo, Alexandre Dumas[3], Charles Baudelaire and Eugene Delacroix.

Cannabis was also openly available from shops in the US. The 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago included a Turkish booth complete with hashish smoking and authors like Louisa May Alcott included hashish encounters in their stories.[4] Eli Lilly and Company and others sold cannabis tinctures over the counter for a variety of maladies. By the end of the 19th century, its medicinal use began to fall as other drugs like aspirin took over its use as a pain reliever.

In 1894, the Report of the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission commissioned by the UK Secretary of State and the government of India, was instrumental in the decision not to criminalize the drug in those countries.[5] From 1906 started different states in the United States to implement regulations for sales of Cannabis indica. In 1925 a change of the International Opium Convention [6] banned exportation of Indian hemp to countries that have prohibited its use, and requiring importing countries to issue certificates approving the importation and stating that the shipment was required "exclusively for medical or scientific purposes."

In 1937 the F.D. Roosevelt administration crafted 1937 Marihuana Tax Act the first national US law making cannabis possession illegal in the US via an unpayable tax on the drug. Hollywood supported that effort with the release of "misinformation documentaries" such as the iconical "Reefer Madness" (1937) and Nathanael West wrote about it in his Hollywood novel, The Day of the Locust.[7]

The name marijuana (Mexican Spanish marihuana, mariguana) is associated almost exclusively with the plant's psychoactive use. The term is now well known in English largely due to the efforts of American drug prohibitionists during the 1920s and 1930s, which deliberately used a Mexican name for cannabis in order to turn the populace against the idea that it should be legal, playing upon attitudes towards the nationality.(See 1937 Marihuana Tax Act). Those who demonized the drug by calling it marihuana omitted the fact that the "deadly marihuana" was identical to cannabis indica, which had at the time a reputation for pharmaceutical safety.[8] It must however be noted that cannabis indica in the 1930s had lost most of its former popularity as a medical drug.[9],

Although cannabis has been used for its psychoactive effects since ancient times, it first became well known in the United States during the jazz music scene of the late 1920s and 1930s. Louis Armstrong became a prominent and life-long devotee.[10] Bing Crosby[11], Gene Krupa[12], Anita O'Day[13], and other jazz stars were "vipers", as written about by Mezz Mezzrow in Really the Blues[14]. It was popular in the blues scene as well. In 1948 film star Robert Mitchum[15] was arrested for marijuana and served time in jail. Embraced by Beat generation writers like Alan Ginsberg[16], it eventually became a prominent part of the 1960s counterculture and human rights movements, used by Bob Dylan[17], John Lennon[18], Paul McCartney[19] and even John Denver[20]. Anthropologist Margaret Mead testified before Congress advocating marijuana legalization in 1969 and admitted she'd tried it herself.[21]
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Of course they changed there minds. They discovered that it is far more beneficial to them to try and keep a load of compliant drones than people that can maybe think for themselves as that sort of scares them.

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Tokers are so busy dodging the law, they don't have time to think big thoughts or do great things.
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Apr 16, 2008
 
I think you need mcdonalds close if you smoke pot. I don't think this is important enough to put in the paper.
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<quoted text> umm if thats the case why are you still here? DUUHHHHH!!!!!!!!
spammer...evangelist.

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yeah i guess so. what of it?
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Tokers are so busy dodging the law.
Actually, most tokers are too busy getting on with their daily lives such as working, paying bills, and looking after their families. The law isn't usually a problem unless you decide to walk into a police station and light up a joint.

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AnnaLynn wrote:
Tokers are so busy dodging the law, they don't have time to think big thoughts or do great things.
you are to funny chic. i have done more great things, and made more great decisions in the last year that effect peoples lives than you will in a life time. so keep on making up crap that means nothing. an think of me smokin a fatty every time you drive over a bridge.

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notsmilinganymore wrote:
<quoted text>you are to funny chic. i have done more great things, and made more great decisions in the last year that effect peoples lives than you will in a life time. so keep on making up crap that means nothing. an think of me smokin a fatty every time you drive over a bridge.
In whose opinion?

Caught the latest reasearch on the connecton between pot, schizophrenia and violent crime? I hear the British government is thinking of reclassifying pot--at a stricter rate.
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I hear the British government is thinking of reclassifying pot--at a stricter rate.
The British governement reclassifies and declassfies cannabis practically every month. It's what makes them look like complete a**holes, and as a result the British Labour government recently got it's oppressive arse kicked in the local elections. Boris Johnson was recently elected as the new London mayor, and a lot of his support comes from the fact that he wants marijuana to at least be legalised for medicinal use.

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In whose opinion?
Caught the latest reasearch on the connecton between pot, schizophrenia and violent crime? I hear the British government is thinking of reclassifying pot--at a stricter rate.
well lets start with the clients of the company i work for. next the state agencies that depend on my expertise. these are the opinions that matter to me unlike yours. that would be those of a dried up bitter old woman from the sounds of you, not anyone that matters in other words. and since i don't live in the UK why the hell would i care what they do. btw why does it matter to you at all what any one else wants to do with thier life? are you just bitter an angry because some pothead boy or girl friend dumped you or what? try this, just worry about running your own life an let the rest of us run our own.
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May 7, 2008
 
The current British government are idiots. They expect us to believe that they listen to the people when they don’t even listen to the people that advise them. Truth is that they can bitch on about faint links to schizophrenia and violent crime weak argument at best when you consider Alcohols link to violent crime. So a sensible person may think that they may alter this as they say they care so much about the people. That is exactly what they are going to do. Make it more illegal if you belive that something can be illegal just a bit. What that actually means for people that don’t understand is this. When something is class A illegal selling it carries a high risk of going to jail ok people that do this accept this fact but put it aside due to the relatively low risk and the extremely high profits available. Now usually this is reserved for things such as Heroin and Crack these people usaly don’t bother with Cannabis because although it’s still illegal as class C there is not really the risk there so not the profit. However if you take said substance and make it say class B so as it carries a bigger risk these people will suddenly become intreasted in the possible profit available ( that is how these people think) Fine you may think but heres the thing. Times WILL arise when said illegal drug dealers don’t have any Cannabis for sale however they WILL have some Gear or Stone. Unfortunatley i know exactly how the conversation goes “Got any weed mate”
“No but you can try some of this one tastes pleasant this one tastes absolutely vile but it will gauge you out sort of like being very stoned”
Yea ok then doesn’t anybody else see something wrong here I personally know quite a few people that will I imagine be praying for the government to make Cannabis a class A Drug. The whole thing is very wrong but by doing this people WILL see there gateway drug effect that they drone on about so much that appears to be what you want?
People who are stoned don’t have big thoughts or do great things Yes History is littered with Artists, Scientists even Leaders that think this to
But a classic is saying that people don’t need a buzz Of course they do its human nature so we Drink, Smoke, Run Marathons, climb Mountains ,Garden or even write into web forums getting a buzz from some sort of debate we have caused although some will disagree
I think we need to think about our own personal beliefs and admit that we may be wrong
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