Pipe smokers huff and puff about smoking ban

Sitting in a tent more than 15 feet away from a St. Charles convention center Friday, Al Shinogle lit up his hand-carved Danish pipe and explained why there was so much frustration at this year's Chicagoland ...

[a street cop]

If all of the conventions pull out of Illinois, maybe they'll wake up. They don't need Illinois, plenty of states would welcome them and their money!

[rogers park Chicago]

I'm a non smoker so why should I be in a bar or restaurant and have to breathe that smoke these people that smoke and complain have issues and should just quit smoking

[Derf]

rogers park Chicago wrote:

I'm a non smoker so why should I be in a bar or restaurant and have to breathe that smoke these people that smoke and complain have issues and should just quit smoking

I dont drive so why should i have to deal with the toxic exhaust fumes from people who do? How about you take your self to a non smoking establishment. Why do you feel you should be allowed to force your will on others? No one forces you to goto a bar or restaurant that allows smoking. Are you really that helpless?

[just candid]

Derf wrote:

<quoted text>
I dont drive so why should i have to deal with the toxic exhaust fumes from people who do? How about you take your self to a non smoking establishment. Why do you feel you should be allowed to force your will on others? No one forces you to goto a bar or restaurant that allows smoking. Are you really that helpless?

Correct. I have notied lots of people who do not smoke take medications,even medications that have harmful side effects, why should we have to swallow second hand meds, when we do not need meds? What goes in the body must leave the body.

[just candid]

just candid wrote:

<quoted text>Correct. I have notied lots of people who do not smoke take medications,even medications that have harmful side effects, why should we have to swallow second hand meds, when we do not need meds? What goes in the body must leave the body.

noticed*

[just candid]

These dangerous meds are in your drinking water

[Sean]

"This is the first time we've seen such a blatant attempt ... to actually undermine the law through legal sophistry," said Mike Grady, the American Cancer Society's Illinois director of public policy. "We're very happy with the outcome. This is the perfect example that the law is being enforced."

I could not think of a more perfect example of just how completely fanatical, maniacal and inflexible the control-freak Smoke Nazis have become that they even care one whit about whether or not people are smoking at a freaking TOBACCO CONVENTION. Guess what, Smoke Nazi -- nobody invited you anyway. All you had to do was STAY THE HELL AWAY, which is what you would have done anyhow. Had this event gone forward as the actual organizers had planned, it would not have affected or impacted your life in any way, shape or form. But you jerkoff Smoke Nazis evidently lay up at night in fits over the prospect that somebody, somewhere, is enjoying a bowl of vanilla burley with some old friends. What ridiculous zealotry.

[Southside]

I'm moving to Mexico. You can smoke freely there and there's lower taxes. Safer than Chicago too. This states bl!ws.

[John J Coughlin]

"It's a freedom issue."

So next November vote against all incumbants--that way you're sure to get all the rats that are responsible.

It's called zero tolerance for commie-rat politicians...

[Peace]

Smok'em if you got'em.

[Billy Bob]

rogers park Chicago wrote:

I'm a non smoker so why should I be in a bar or restaurant and have to breathe that smoke these people that smoke and complain have issues and should just quit smoking

Simple. If you don't like it don't go into the restaurant or bar.
Go somewhere else.

[Billy Bob]

Sean wrote:

"This is the first time we've seen such a blatant attempt ... to actually undermine the law through legal sophistry," said Mike Grady, the American Cancer Society's Illinois director of public policy. "We're very happy with the outcome. This is the perfect example that the law is being enforced."
I could not think of a more perfect example of just how completely fanatical, maniacal and inflexible the control-freak Smoke Nazis have become that they even care one whit about whether or not people are smoking at a freaking TOBACCO CONVENTION. Guess what, Smoke Nazi -- nobody invited you anyway. All you had to do was STAY THE HELL AWAY, which is what you would have done anyhow. Had this event gone forward as the actual organizers had planned, it would not have affected or impacted your life in any way, shape or form. But you jerkoff Smoke Nazis evidently lay up at night in fits over the prospect that somebody, somewhere, is enjoying a bowl of vanilla burley with some old friends. What ridiculous zealotry.

Excellent post. I'm with you.

[Robert Salm]

Something tells me these conventioneers aren't exactly the smartest peas in a pod.

[clyde]

"Ask not for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee."

-Nanny State

[ernie]

new jersy changed its smoking law in its casinos

[politwriter]

Remember the comments of the American Cancer society nanny -- and the Lung Assoc. when making your annual contributions. Can they afford a 25% downturn in contributions?

What will the employees of Pheasant Run do next yr. at this time for work? And Dupage wants to lure conventions?

[u gotta be kidding]

The ACS would have us believe they never use legal sophistry? How bout I sue them for taking money under false pretenses? Shouldn't they have cured cancer after all these years?

[Bob]

Ohio is eliminating it's "tobacco prevention foundation". Good riddance. Kudos to Ohio. They carried their antics too far. Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 4:21 PM EDT
Bill to liquidate tobacco funds heads to House floorDayton Business Journal
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[Bob]

Link to Ohio banning the banners. http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/200...

[Bob]

They push for TOTAL bans. All thise is being done with tax exempt money. http://www.ksn.com/news/local/18537249.html