Gay death call 'was Muslim duty'

Jan 17, 2012 Full story: BBC News 273

A man who handed out a leaflet calling for homosexuals to be executed has said he was just doing his "duty as a Muslim". Kabir Ahmed, 28, is one of five Muslim men on trial for stirring up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation at Derby Crown Court.

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“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

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#1 Jan 17, 2012
Lol and yet these liberals go out of their way to support and stick up for their fellow Muslims.

Anyone but Christians is their motto.

Well, let's all enjoy sharia law .

“so like uhh! whats the deal?”

Since: May 09

planet earth.

#2 Jan 17, 2012
Awell at least they are getting dragged into court to face some English judgement of their own!
Now they will have to be content with hiding their hatred in a PC world, A case of PC bites back how refreshing!
Kirk

Reading, PA

#3 Jan 17, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
Lol and yet these liberals go out of their way to support and stick up for their fellow Muslims.
Anyone but Christians is their motto.
Well, let's all enjoy sharia law .
What matters is the action not who committed the action.

This is the case of one Muslim compared with dozens of cases of faux Christians doing the same thing every day.

I still contend that religion is mankind's single worst invention.

Fundamentalist Christianity is exactly the same as Sharia Law just in a different set of clothes. Both would control people and action based on the dictates of this religion.

“Stop the liberal madness”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#4 Jan 17, 2012
Kirk wrote:
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What matters is the action not who committed the action.
This is the case of one Muslim compared with dozens of cases of faux Christians doing the same thing every day.
I still contend that religion is mankind's single worst invention.
Fundamentalist Christianity is exactly the same as Sharia Law just in a different set of clothes. Both would control people and action based on the dictates of this religion.
Nice how you distort reality to suit your anti-Christian agenda. Tell me of one incident where a recognized Christian group called for the killing of gays?

Anti-gay "marriage" is very different than calling for anyone's death.

“The Three Legged Man”

Since: Jul 11

UK

#5 Jan 17, 2012
Kirk wrote:
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What matters is the action not who committed the action.
This is the case of one Muslim compared with dozens of cases of faux Christians doing the same thing every day.
I still contend that religion is mankind's single worst invention.
Fundamentalist Christianity is exactly the same as Sharia Law just in a different set of clothes. Both would control people and action based on the dictates of this religion.
What Christians have ever called for the execution of gay people? I've never heard of an openly gay imam, and I doubt there ever will be such a thing.

A proper Christian exercises forgiveness and leaves the judging to higher authority. That is the message of Jesus Christ. A proper muslim, following Mad Mo, has no concept of forgiveness and believes all sorts of people should be made to submit or die.

I don't particularly mean to stick up for Christianity, as I think all religion is superstitious nonsense, but don't tell me Islam is the same thing as Christianity because that's a dangerously naive belief itself. The two religions are chalk and cheese.

Since: Dec 11

North Liberty, IA

#6 Jan 17, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
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Nice how you distort reality to suit your anti-Christian agenda. Tell me of one incident where a recognized Christian group called for the killing of gays?
Anti-gay "marriage" is very different than calling for anyone's death.
Riiiight flat out saying you want people dead and denying them rights, dignity until they kill them selves HUGE difference....Keep telling your self that.

“The Three Legged Man”

Since: Jul 11

UK

#7 Jan 17, 2012
Noct wrote:
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Riiiight flat out saying you want people dead and denying them rights, dignity until they kill them selves HUGE difference....Keep telling your self that.
Christians can be pretty intolerant, but there is a HUGE difference between their treatment of gay people and that you will find in Islamic society.

There will always be morons who use religion to provide divine back-up for their prejudices, but Christianity by its very nature can never support anything like the standard attitude towards gays under Islam.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#8 Jan 17, 2012
Mr Tripod wrote:
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What Christians have ever called for the execution of gay people?.
Fred Phelps, Baptist preacher, doesn't exactly advocate the killing of gays, per se, so far as I can find on the web, but he certainly thanks his god for killing them. Also, wasn't it American Fundementalist Ministers who went to Uganda and supported the Kill The Gays bill? Good "christian" folks, they.
Sheik Yerbouti

Pennington, NJ

#9 Jan 17, 2012
If you people had kept muslim vermin out of the UK you wouldn't be having these problems.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#10 Jan 17, 2012
Mr Tripod wrote:
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Christians can be pretty intolerant, but there is a HUGE difference between their treatment of gay people and that you will find in Islamic society.
There will always be morons who use religion to provide divine back-up for their prejudices, but Christianity by its very nature can never support anything like the standard attitude towards gays under Islam.
In America we have a third religion called 'fundamentalism' that constantly works to nullify our current sectarian government and impose theocratic totalitarianism
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Fundamentalists confuse the public by calling themselves 'christians' to lend credence to their cause
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/12/9811...
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Many fundamentalist organizations are certified terrorist groups
http://splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligenc...
Bob

Houston, TX

#11 Jan 17, 2012
Mr Tripod wrote:
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Christians can be pretty intolerant, but there is a HUGE difference between their treatment of gay people and that you will find in Islamic society.
There will always be morons who use religion to provide divine back-up for their prejudices, but Christianity by its very nature can never support anything like the standard attitude towards gays under Islam.
The difference is the clothing, like stated earlier. Christians teach their young to hate gays. Those young grow up and kill gays. Their killings are indirect manisfestations of the christian cult.(Read the papers, you'll see it happening more than you can imagine)
Christians = Muslims
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#12 Jan 17, 2012
Mr Tripod wrote:
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Christians can be pretty intolerant, but there is a HUGE difference between their treatment of gay people and that you will find in Islamic society.
There will always be morons who use religion to provide divine back-up for their prejudices, but Christianity by its very nature can never support anything like the standard attitude towards gays under Islam.
We're on it
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4142/476027533...

“The Three Legged Man”

Since: Jul 11

UK

#13 Jan 17, 2012
RalphB wrote:
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Fred Phelps, Baptist preacher, doesn't exactly advocate the killing of gays, per se, so far as I can find on the web, but he certainly thanks his god for killing them. Also, wasn't it American Fundementalist Ministers who went to Uganda and supported the Kill The Gays bill? Good "christian" folks, they.
They're not people who follow the words of Christ, and it still doesn't make Islam look any better.

What are you trying to say here? That it's fine for muslims to advocate the killing of gay people because some Christians are homophobic?

Your sense of perspective is laughable if you think you can compare homophobia amongst Christians with the horrific persecution in Islamic societies.

“The Three Legged Man”

Since: Jul 11

UK

#14 Jan 17, 2012
Rainbow Kid wrote:
And how many Islamic countries would they be able to do that in?

Absolutely laughable.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#15 Jan 17, 2012
Rainbow Kid wrote:
Great photo. Have any idea where it came from, and what city it was taken in?
CrimeaRiver

South Ockendon, UK

#16 Jan 17, 2012
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
If you people had kept muslim vermin out of the UK you wouldn't be having these problems.
Its the small minority who behave like this and yet the media jump all over it and give off the impression that all muslims think like this.

Recently some muslims were seen burning poppies (mark of remembrance day) and the media gave these 5-10 people so much coverage that you'd think it was all muslims who acted like this.

So rather than just ignore them as extremist idiots, the media gives them blanket coverage and makes them martyrs.

But they don't give the same kind of attention to the thousands who attended the Muslims against terror march in London.

Understand - the media wants to piss you off, they want you to be angry. If they're not getting a reaction then they're not doing their job.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#17 Jan 17, 2012
It just dawned on me. This guy says it was his "duty" under muslim law, but on another thread it says he denied he did it. His head must be full of rocks.

See:http://www.topix.net/forum /news/gay/T100POO3CKQLQHGTL

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#18 Jan 17, 2012
Let's try that link again.

http://www.topix.com/forum /news/gay/T100POO3CKQLQHGTL

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#19 Jan 17, 2012
It won't work, but the thread headline is:

Derby Muslim denies gay hate crime charge
CrimeaRiver

South Ockendon, UK

#20 Jan 17, 2012
RalphB wrote:
It won't work, but the thread headline is:
Derby Muslim denies gay hate crime charge
Yeah you're right. The BBC headline is: Gay death call 'was Muslim duty'.

But the Guardian headline for the same story with the same picture is: Derby Muslim denies gay hate crime charge

How strange!!!

Wonder which one people will choose to believe

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