Brighton council asked to support hom...

Brighton council asked to support homeless gay teens

There are 79 comments on the www.pinknews.co.uk story from Feb 26, 2009, titled Brighton council asked to support homeless gay teens. In it, www.pinknews.co.uk reports that:

The Green party group on Brighton and Hove City Council has proposed measures that would improve support for young LGBT people with housing and homelessness problems in the budget for 2009/10.

"For a modest amount of money AKT will provide training sessions for housing staff and carry out an annual audit of the services offered to young people from the LGBT community with housing problems.

"Young service users are involved at every stage of the delivery of the mark.

"Homelessness among this group is a serious issue for the city.

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“Putan end to religious thought”

Since: Jun 07

The Freak Kingdom

#1 Feb 26, 2009
This has been a growing problem everywhere. It's just plain sad. It is the lies and rhetoric spread by the religious fanatic extremists (aka so-called pro-family groups) that bring such problems about. It is their rhetoric that sways parents to false beliefs, leading those parents to kick their own children out after learning that they are gay. Other parents, because of the same lies and rhetoric, believing that their children are "evil abominations" beat and abuse their GLBT children. The children then flee the home in terror.

All of these kids end up on the streets, and few are doing enough to really help them. I'm glad to see Brighton taking a step in the right direction.

“Protestant, Gay, Libertarian”

Since: Apr 08

Long Island, NY

#2 Feb 26, 2009
Ziggy on High wrote:
This has been a growing problem everywhere. It's just plain sad. It is the lies and rhetoric spread by the religious fanatic extremists (aka so-called pro-family groups) that bring such problems about. It is their rhetoric that sways parents to false beliefs, leading those parents to kick their own children out after learning that they are gay. Other parents, because of the same lies and rhetoric, believing that their children are "evil abominations" beat and abuse their GLBT children. The children then flee the home in terror.
All of these kids end up on the streets, and few are doing enough to really help them. I'm glad to see Brighton taking a step in the right direction.
I agree.
MI5 POLE

UK

#3 Feb 26, 2009
it's those jews doing it!

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#4 Feb 26, 2009
My spouse inherited a home about 10 miles outside of Brighton 3 years ago. We stayed there twice for about 10 days each time. Of course we go in the off season so as to avoid all the tourists. We found that it does, indeed, have a large gay community, but truthfully we never saw many kids on the streets after dark that appeared to be homeless. But then, we only went into town mostly during the day. We are not pub crawlers or anything, so we weren't there much at night. I will have to watch for them the next time we go. I might even seek out the local gay group to see if there is any good we can do in the short time that we stay there.

Since: Jun 08

San Antonio, TX

#5 Feb 26, 2009
Ziggy on High wrote:
This has been a growing problem everywhere. It's just plain sad. It is the lies and rhetoric spread by the religious fanatic extremists (aka so-called pro-family groups) that bring such problems about. It is their rhetoric that sways parents to false beliefs, leading those parents to kick their own children out after learning that they are gay. Other parents, because of the same lies and rhetoric, believing that their children are "evil abominations" beat and abuse their GLBT children. The children then flee the home in terror.
All of these kids end up on the streets, and few are doing enough to really help them. I'm glad to see Brighton taking a step in the right direction.
Well there's plenty of support in the bible for beating and killing your kids. I am hard pressed to find anything I would call family values in that outdated mess of ancient literature. I'm sure that the parents who have thrown their gay kids out feel assured of being welcomed into paradise for their actions when they die.
born that way

Washington, DC

#6 Feb 27, 2009
Gaytheist wrote:
<quoted text>
Well there's plenty of support in the bible for beating and killing your kids. I am hard pressed to find anything I would call family values in that outdated mess of ancient literature. I'm sure that the parents who have thrown their gay kids out feel assured of being welcomed into paradise for their actions when they die.
Totally agree. Check this out:
http://scienceblogs.com/bushwells/2009/02/wer...
Krypteia

Brighton, UK

#8 Feb 28, 2009
MR GIBLETS wrote:
perhaps the homeless gays could be given nice cottages to live in?
lol.mate i live down the coast a place called Shoreham and Brighton has homeless of all sexes,i don't get into this PC bollocks and hate this crap [service users] what aload of bollocks don't anyone talk normal anymore or do we all have to speak like some f.cked up pointless retard lefty from the labour party..
I know its the faggot capital of Europe but homeless is homeless no matter what sex..Brighton council what a shower of sh.t
mr Giblets the FALSE one

Carlisle, UK

#11 Mar 1, 2009
MR GIBLETS wrote:
and what's all this LGBT stuff? Loony Gobshite bastard tossers?
LOL!

Totally agreed! Utter bollocks.

But you're wrong, it stands for Lots of Gobbling and Buggeration for Tossers.
Krypteia

Brighton, UK

#12 Mar 1, 2009
mr Giblets the FALSE one wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!
Totally agreed! Utter bollocks.
But you're wrong, it stands for Lots of Gobbling and Buggeration for Tossers.
lol

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

India

#13 Mar 1, 2009
I'm with K on this one - what the hell has sexual orientation to do with homelessness? Seems we have lost sight of the priorities when every issue depends on gay/straight, black/white. catholic/protestant, islamic/christian. In essence, there are two types of people, good and bad. The former, I'll drink with, the latter, I'd like to use a Uzi 9mm on. Terribly simplistic, but that's me, I guess.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#14 Mar 1, 2009
tony1003 wrote:
I'm with K on this one - what the hell has sexual orientation to do with homelessness?.........
Many kids are tossed out on the street by those who should love and support them, for no other reason but their innate sexual orientation.

You know, the "Not MY Kid" crowd.

Do you think this is a good idea? And would you rather kids roamed the streets, or is it better to try to give them a second chance at a productive life?

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

India

#15 Mar 1, 2009
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Many kids are tossed out on the street by those who should love and support them, for no other reason but their innate sexual orientation.
You know, the "Not MY Kid" crowd.
Do you think this is a good idea? And would you rather kids roamed the streets, or is it better to try to give them a second chance at a productive life?
Sorry, but I see no reason to pick them out as a specific group. Many kids are tossed out by parents who lack the skill or ability to do what that title suggests. Why should sexual orientation be the defining factor in who is helped?
Krypteia

Brighton, UK

#16 Mar 1, 2009
tony1003 wrote:
I'm with K on this one - what the hell has sexual orientation to do with homelessness? Seems we have lost sight of the priorities when every issue depends on gay/straight, black/white. catholic/protestant, islamic/christian. In essence, there are two types of people, good and bad. The former, I'll drink with, the latter, I'd like to use a Uzi 9mm on. Terribly simplistic, but that's me, I guess.
Thanks tony hope you had a good holiday.
It just makes me mad, the priorities should be for all homeless not whether your some up hill gardener and also to British citizens first because frankly i could not careless about some so called asylum seeker and their families..

“Putan end to religious thought”

Since: Jun 07

The Freak Kingdom

#17 Mar 2, 2009
tony1003 wrote:
I'm with K on this one - what the hell has sexual orientation to do with homelessness? Seems we have lost sight of the priorities when every issue depends on gay/straight, black/white. catholic/protestant, islamic/christian. In essence, there are two types of people, good and bad. The former, I'll drink with, the latter, I'd like to use a Uzi 9mm on. Terribly simplistic, but that's me, I guess.
Reread my first post here. That helps th=o answer your first question. It has no bearing on them being homeless but rather why they were put in that position in the first place. We're not talking about old bums here; we're talking about teenagers kicked out of their homes by homophobic parents. We're talking about teenagers who had to leave their homes because their fathers were beating the living shite out of them.

Homelessness at large is a huge problem. Is there a way to tackle all of it, effectively remedying the problem? No. So, it is wisest to focus on small parts of the whole one at a time, manageable "bite-sized" piece, if you will. That said, wouldn't getting the teens and young adults off the streets be a good priority to focus on first? Well, it just so happens that the majority of those teens are gay.

“Putan end to religious thought”

Since: Jun 07

The Freak Kingdom

#19 Mar 2, 2009
MR GIBLETS wrote:
<quoted text>how do you KNOW their fathers were beating them? They might have left home thinking they would do well as butt boys in Brighton, but the plan never worked.
Perhaps a handful left home of their own accord for the wrong reasons. However, I'm sure some of them were also abused. It happens here in the states all the time. Now, I understand we're talking bout different countries here, but rabid homophobes and their hatred are the same everywhere. I make my claims from what I have actually witnessed.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

India

#20 Mar 2, 2009
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks tony hope you had a good holiday.
It just makes me mad, the priorities should be for all homeless not whether your some up hill gardener and also to British citizens first because frankly i could not careless about some so called asylum seeker and their families..
Hi K, great holiday thanks - snow was superb and so was the skiing/hotel, range of runs etc. Don't know why I've avoided Flaine before - not an attractive resort, purpose-built and a little too heavy on the concrete.

Enough of this - back to the thread.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

India

#21 Mar 2, 2009
Ziggy on High wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps a handful left home of their own accord for the wrong reasons. However, I'm sure some of them were also abused. It happens here in the states all the time. Now, I understand we're talking bout different countries here, but rabid homophobes and their hatred are the same everywhere. I make my claims from what I have actually witnessed.
Have you visited Britain then and witnessed it? Re-read the article - there is no suggestion of violence in it, so please do not project your opinions of the US onto the UK. Sadly, in some areas we do follow the US, but I see no evidence to suggest this is one of them.

As it happens, it is a minority proposal from the opposition and as such is unlikely to gain acceptence by the Conservative council. We do have a housing problem in some areas, but I fear this is another example of the gay community seeking special treatment. I have no prejudice against them - their sexuality is their business, but I see no case for extraordinary treatment for them above other groups.

“Putan end to religious thought”

Since: Jun 07

The Freak Kingdom

#22 Mar 2, 2009
My only point in bringing up the violence was as a possible reason that some of these kids ended up on the street, not the only or even the prevailing reason, just one of many possibilities.

If you actually have far less of a violence problem, as it pertains to angry fathers beating their "nancy" sons, well then that is a good thing.
Krypteia

Brighton, UK

#23 Mar 3, 2009
Ziggy on High wrote:
My only point in bringing up the violence was as a possible reason that some of these kids ended up on the street, not the only or even the prevailing reason, just one of many possibilities.
If you actually have far less of a violence problem, as it pertains to angry fathers beating their "nancy" sons, well then that is a good thing.
Some fathers beat their sons whether they are poofs or not and end up on the streets.
I think you will find homeless everywhere and more than likely some will be gay and maybe a few more here in Brighton as its the gay centre of Britain but i think homelessness should be adressed the same for everyone.

“Putan end to religious thought”

Since: Jun 07

The Freak Kingdom

#24 Mar 3, 2009
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Some fathers beat their sons whether they are poofs or not and end up on the streets.
I think you will find homeless everywhere and more than likely some will be gay and maybe a few more here in Brighton as its the gay centre of Britain but i think homelessness should be adressed the same for everyone.
True, however, gay people do have a few unique issues that sometimes require some understanding and sensitivity. This was mostly, so I read, intended on staff education on how to best deal with and serve the gay population on the streets.

But, as it turns out, the measure was voted down.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-...

So much for that.

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