Clifford Hall jailed for his part in A 48 million drug scheme

There are 15 comments on the Miltonkeynes Today story from Nov 13, 2012, titled Clifford Hall jailed for his part in A 48 million drug scheme. In it, Miltonkeynes Today reports that:

A 31-YEAR-OLD Bletchley man has been jailed for seven years for his part in a multi-million pound scheme to import the cutting agent, benzocaine, into the UK.

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Alfred Douhlas

Bridgetown, Barbados

#1 Nov 28, 2012
Readers are referred to the link 'Full Story MiltonKeynes Today' on this page.

The bottom line is this: the originsl report to this feature was issued by the Lancashire Constabulary. That report has been ccpied by news outlets throughout the UK. In contains SIX material misrepresentations - well, to be candid LIES.

Clifford Hall was a small trader who imported legal highs and nutrition and sports supplements. The benzocaine he supplied (125 kilos of c600 kilos), which he admitted supplying though 75 kilos of that were never tested for benzocaine and which he therefore didn't need to admit to, were imported, as he suppposed, as legal highs. Hall was a member of no gang and had never visited Manchester, Burnley or Ripley. Conspiracy charges against him were dropped.

Clifford's many friends say that his conviction was a travesty of justice. He is appealing his conviction by a 10-2 majority verdict.

Benzocaine is a legal substance.Why hasn't it been made illegal to import, possess or supply it?
rider

Marquette, MI

#2 Nov 28, 2012
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Jamie Dawson

UK

#3 Dec 1, 2012
So a man who trades a legal substance gets a higher sentence than a drug dealer ??? Wtf ?!?
Dappa Danny

UK

#4 Dec 1, 2012
I ear nuff bout this case n the only evidence seem me this straight up noble breda Fed mek an example of. Kindness for weakness enter mi mind . U kno how much gun man murderer drug dealin burglar run da streets ? Bt u gine fill a space wid a harmless breh for yall try look good ?? Yal make me sick fix up
rider

Marquette, MI

#6 Dec 2, 2012
Operation Gunrunner had been moving these weapons across the US border into Mexico prior to 2009, according to our Photojournalist Robert Plumlee in New Mexico who tried in vain to bring his concerns about this project to the attention of officials, through proper channels.

They dismissed his reports, and it makes little sense as Mr. Plumlee is a former longtime CIA Asset; a multi engine pilot with a lifetime of accomplishments for the federal government under his belt.

In fact Mr. Plumlee was initially contacted by a member of the joint U.S./ Mexico military joint task force which Mexico vehemently denied the existence of to Salem-News.com .(then the program was fully outed by a Wikileaks cable). The reason the soldier contacted Mr. Plumlee in the first place, was to draw public attention to the fact they the joint task force existed, and that their operations against drug cartels in Mexico were being thwarted and compromised by someone within the US federal government. If we could name that entity, then we would know perhaps about the US politicians allegedly funded by Mexican drug cartel money, in exchange for what else, but weapons.

Robert Plumlee, or 'Tosh' as his friends call him, told me a story one day about how the Mexicans receive the weapons from the American side. They use a trick that Navy SEAL's employ in the new hit movie 'Act of Valor'. They launch a remote control airplane with a video camera in the nose, and they fly in circles at an altitude that allows them to see if any vehicles are approaching. When they know they are clear, the two sides approach the short border fences and toss the contraband weapons over, and it is done. Sadly, considering the length of the actual border; there is almost no possible way to stop this type of high tech 'eye in the sky' smuggling.

It has come to our attention that our report from July of last year is being used in a Mexican political campaign; we believe it is an extremely important fact that Holder claimed to not know of this program, under oath, when being examined by Darryl Issa.

Issa, by the way, is now refusing to comply with a subpoena that has to do with the Roger Clemens case. The athlete is accused of lying about steroid use. Obviously in collusion with Holder, Cummings is using this refusal of Issa's as a comparative note. He believes Issa is guilty of what he has accused Holder of, that is fighting a subpoena.

However, I go back to the root of the problem. Cummings is comparing apples and oranges at best. An athlete's steroid use, and the worst black eye this nation ever gave itself with federal assistance?

These hardly compare, and with Holder as a role model, getting away with murder quite literally, in the opinion of millions of Americans, why on earth would Issa comply? Holder is setting the standard for above the law behavior, is he not?

References:

{1] Eric Holder negotiated an OxyContin settlement in West Virginia - working for Purdue Pharma!- Marianne Skolek Salem-News.com

{2] Oversight Committee Outlines Case Against Eric Holder, for Contempt over Fast and Furious - Salem-News.com

{3] Holder Lied: DOJ News Release Shows Obama Admin Approved ATF Mexico Weapons Smuggling - Tim King Salem-News.com .

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rider

Marquette, MI

#7 Dec 2, 2012
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Alfred Douhlas

Bridgetown, Barbados

#8 Dec 2, 2012
@ Rider

What have your posts to do with the topic under discussion? Are you a saboteur? At the least it's impolite to intervene in this way at this length with irrelevant material.
Steven R

Dallas, TX

#10 Dec 3, 2012
@ Alfred Douhlas

It's probably Mr. Plumlee building his bonafides. That's what he does. He gathers publicly available information about a subject, finds a place to interject himself, and then creates a narrative that includes himself. He's been doing it since about 1959, when he contacted the FBI to claim his involvement with gunrunning to Castro forces in Cuba.
Alfred Douhlas

Bridgetown, Barbados

#13 Dec 3, 2012
@ Steven R

LOL thanks for that.
rider

Marquette, MI

#14 Dec 3, 2012
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Luke Geraint

Towcester, UK

#15 Dec 3, 2012
Clifford got 7 years ?? I had to research I couldn't believe what I was hearing !!! He wasn't a drug dealer !!! From reading all the articles in the burnley express , n Mk news I'd say they've just made an example of him. Complete injustice n obvious lack of evidence because its sinply not true !!!all he did was trade a vast array of legal stocks over Internet to whoever ...! Nothing illegal !! This makes me sick to the stomach knowing poor cliff is sitting in prison for a crime he didn't even commit and something needs to be done about this !!!!!!!! He's a loved member of the community and is 1 of the rare few genuine kind hearted souls around . He wasn't part of a drug gang , he hated cocaine n other drugs n was a fitness fanatic !!! He didnt have much money and 1 of the only blokes I kno that wasn't materialistic or flashy I think the police n court need to have a word with themselves cos this was not obviously investigated properly . Deeply Saddened . Regards to his girlfriend , his stepson and his family :-(
Sheik Yerbouti

Doylestown, PA

#16 Dec 3, 2012
Dappa Danny wrote:
I ear nuff bout this case n the only evidence seem me this straight up noble breda Fed mek an example of. Kindness for weakness enter mi mind . U kno how much gun man murderer drug dealin burglar run da streets ? Bt u gine fill a space wid a harmless breh for yall try look good ?? Yal make me sick fix up
Don't they teach English in the UK? No one wants to read your stupid ebonics!!
Alfred Douhlas

Bridgetown, Barbados

#17 Dec 3, 2012
@Sheik Yerbouti of Dappa Danny

You know sunshine - it takes all sorts to make a world. It even takes you.

Now IF you're really interested in this subject and don't just want to score fatuous debating points look at blackspiderpress.com
Luke Geraint

Towcester, UK

#18 Dec 3, 2012
Sheik rebouti whoever u r if u haven't got anything to say about the topic don't bother saying anything at all . Clifford was a good man n any comments ,about the issue of an innocent man being sent down, are welcomed.
Tel Patrick Donnelly

Towcester, UK

#19 Dec 3, 2012
How can he be done with no evidence linking him to the charge ??? Appeal !! He's a good fella and it's a waste of prison space

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