Rethinking Spheres of Influence

Rethinking Spheres of Influence

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Testimonials Rethinking Spheres of Influence By Gideon Rachman In Winston Churchill's memoirs, he records a meeting with Josef Stalin in October 1944: "The moment was apt for business, so I said 'Let us settle ...

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Toronto, Canada

#1 Apr 16, 2008
Britain, in Churchill's day, was an empire and tried to carve up the world to protect its "sphere of influence."

All of eastern Europe was once Bolshevik Russia's "sphere of influence." Now it is not.

Ukraine and Georgia may have been in Russia's "sphere of influence," but with NATO membership they will not be any longer.

"Sphere of influence" is nothing but a euphemism for a tacit approval for a bully nation to exert dominion and hegemony over its intended vassal states.

Russia's ideas about "spheres of influence" our outdated imperialistic notions that are now threatened by Georgia and Ukraine --young democracies that are trying to stay out from under the bloody Russian imperial jackboot --and protect and assert their sovereignty by joining Europe and NATO.



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Big Lake, Alaska USA

#2 Apr 16, 2008
France....everyone has helped her durring both world wars and how does she pay in kind? By putting a knife into the backs of Ukraine and Georgia with German help.

Moscow, Russia

#3 Apr 17, 2008
Why_Me wrote:
France....everyone has helped her durring both world wars and how does she pay in kind? By putting a knife into the backs of Ukraine and Georgia with German help.
Only those states who kiss America in ass are good for you.

Toronto, Canada

#4 Apr 17, 2008
Ukraine does not accept Russian imperialist concepts of "sphere of influence" or Russian hegemonic concept of "near abroad.....

Ukraine tells Russia it is adamant on NATO choice
Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:02am EDT

By Dmitry Solovyov

MOSCOW (Reuters)- Ukraine told Russia on Tuesday it would press on with attempts to join NATO despite the former imperial master's staunch opposition to the plan, but also assured Moscow this would pose no threat to its security.

"Ukraine has made its choice. This choice is well thought-out," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Volodymyr Ohryzko told a news briefing after meeting Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov.

"This is not only the political will of our leadership, but it is also Ukraine's Euro-Atlantic future, which is set out in its legislation," he said. "NATO is our choice of how we safeguard our security."

Russia fiercely opposes NATO's expansion eastwards, saying it would threaten its national security and upset the delicate strategic balance in Europe.

President Vladimir Putin said in February that Moscow could be forced to redirect its missiles towards Ukraine if Kiev joined NATO and hosted elements of the U.S. missile shield.

Ohryzko, sitting next Lavrov at the news briefing, said: "Our constitution does not allow Ukraine to deploy foreign bases on its land. I want to repeat yet again: Ukraine in NATO is not Ukraine against Russia"

"We are talking ... about Ukraine developing its ties with NATO while not violating its good, strategic relations with Russia," Ohryzko said.

Earlier this month NATO members at a summit agreed to give Ukraine and fellow ex-Soviet state Georgia eventual alliance membership, but they did not grant them Membership Action Plans, a formal roadmap for entry.

Lavrov said Moscow could not understand "the logic of NATO's mechanical enlargement eastwards, performed in the spirit of old approaches based on bloc thinking".

"NATO is saying all the time the Cold War is over and it is undergoing transformation into a global security body," Lavrov said. "At the same time, they bypass a question of how this bloc ... will interact with the United Nations Security Council."

Opinion polls show only a minority of Ukrainians back NATO membership. Ohryzko said the authorities hoped to change public opinion before putting the issue to a referendum.

"We will do whatever we can for the people to get ample and objective information about the alliance," he said.

(Reporting by Dmitry Solovyov; Editing by Stephen Weeks)

London, Canada

#5 Apr 18, 2008
Before joyining NATO and UE, Ukraina has to renounce and give back the occupied territories from Romania, taken after the WW2. Everybody knows that The South Of Ukraina is Romanian territory, populated mostly by romanians.
All the best!

Toronto, Canada

#6 Apr 18, 2008
Georgia is challenging Russia's "sphere of influence' meaning Russia's sphere of hegemony....

Georgia lobbies NATO on "dangerous" Russian move
Fri Apr 18, 8:22 AM

By David Brunnstrom

BRUSSELS (Reuters)- Georgia held emergency talks with NATO and European Union allies on Friday, urging them to remain firm in pressing Russia to drop plans for closer ties with two rebel Georgian regions.

Moscow announced on Wednesday it would establish legal links with Georgia's breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which border Russia in the Caucasus. Georgia calls it a move towards annexation and NATO immediately urged Russia to reverse the decision.

Georgian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for European Integration Georgy Baramidze raised concerns with NATO Deputy Secretary-General Claudio Bisogniero and was to meet ambassadors from several NATO allies and EU External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner.

Baramidze called the Russian step "very, very dangerous" and a threat not just to Georgia but to all Europe and NATO.

"This is a decisive moment," he told a news conference.

"The Russians have crossed the red line and Europe and the Euro-Atlantic community must prove that they are willing to protect young democracies."

He added: "We want our friends to have a dialogue with Russia to persuade Russia to reverse this decision. We believe a united Europe and a united Euro-Atlantic community will be heard in the Kremlin.

"We will not allow Europe to be divided by the spheres of influence, we will never ever allow the 1930s to be repeated," Baramidze said in an apparent reference to Europe's failure to stop Nazi Germany's expansionist course before World War Two.

"There is a political and moral obligation of the whole of Europe to protect democracy, to protect human rights and to protect international law."


He reiterated a call for the European Union to send a police force to the breakaway regions to replace Russian troops.

The Russian move came two weeks after NATO leaders vowed that Georgia, a former Soviet republic, would one day join the alliance, although NATO declined to give an immediate plan to start membership preparations.

It also follows the recognition of Kosovo's declaration of independence from Serbia by most Western countries in defiance of Serbian and Russian wishes.

Baramidze said Moscow was clearly responding to NATO's hesitation and Kosovo.

"Until Georgia is a member of NATO they will feel they have a window of opportunity to prevent Georgia entering NATO, because they know very well that once Georgia is in NATO they cannot exercise this kind of provocative action."

Russia strongly opposes admitting Ukraine and Georgia to the 26-nation NATO alliance, moves which it sees as Western military encroachments into its sphere of influence.

An EU spokeswoman said Ferrero-Waldner was "in listening mode" on Georgia's concerns and expected EU President Slovenia to issue a statement on behalf of the bloc later.

Georgia has called for a special debate by the U.N. Security Council to discuss the Russian moves, which are likely to become a new irritant in relations between Russia and Western nations.

U.S. Republican presidential candidate John McCain accused Russia of seeking a de facto annexation of part of Georgia and urged European governments to join in condemning Moscow.

(Reporting by David Brunnstrom and Mark John, editing by Mark Trevelyan)

Toronto, Canada

#7 Apr 18, 2008
Edward Lukas understands what hegemonic neofascist Russia is up to:


Edward Lucas speech on Russia, NATO, Georgia

World renown scholar of Russian politics Edward Lucas delivers a ground breaking speech about current situation in Russia and its relations with NATO, Georgia, and the Baltic States.

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