Taiwan to continue buying arms from US

Taiwan to continue buying arms from US

There are 15 comments on the News24 story from Aug 23, 2013, titled Taiwan to continue buying arms from US. In it, News24 reports that:

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TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#1 Aug 24, 2013
Taiwan to continue buying arms from US....
http://www.news24.com/World/News/Taiwan-to-co...

Motshwane Sefiri said, "

Wht I'm seeing here is America trying to spark a war between two rivals as part of clearing it's 13 trillion debt to china bt at the same time china needs to move out of Taipei.

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WAR is MOSTLY STUPID and RATHER EXPENSIVE, which is GREAT FOR FEW but HORRIBLE FOR MOST! Anyhow, USA MILITARY HARDWARE sold to TAIWAN would create lots of USA JOBS and pay off those DEBT! Besides, My TAIWAN NATION do seriously need to have those USA WEAPONS because CHINA is building up their RATHER LARGE MILITARY FORCE! Having a WEAK TAIWAN MILITARY will just encourage CHINA with their MILITARY ADVENTURE in near future! Of course, TAIWAN will never be able to OUT SPEND with CHINA on any ARM RACE!!=(

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People's Liberation Army (CHINA) Air Force Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liber...

ARTICLE said, "

Modernization program

The 21st century has seen the continuation of the modernization program with China's huge economic growth. It acquired 76 Su-30MKK's from 2000 to 2003, and 24 upgraded Su-30MK2's in 2004. It also produced around 200 J-11s from 2002 onwards and bought 3 batches (at a total of 76) of the Su-27SK/UBK. Production of the J-10 fighter began in 2002 with an estimated 200 aircraft in service currently.

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Sukhoi Su-30MKK Wiki (76 + 24 = 100)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su-30MKK

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Sukhoi Su-27 Wiki (76)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-27

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Shenyang J-11 Wiki (164 as of February 2012)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-11

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Chengdu J-10 Wiki [<---- thanx to IAI Lavi](270 as of August 2012)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10

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That is TOTAL at 610 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS! That is a lot of modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS not counting MORE OF THEM once CHINA do have THEIR 3 or more AIRCRAFT CARRIERS!!{roll my eyes}

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Republic of China (TAIWAN) Air Force Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Chin...

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TAIWAN AIR FORCE have 55 Mirage 2000-5EI/DI JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS, 144 F-16 A/B Block 20 JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS, and 126 F-CK-1A/B JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS! That is TOTAL of 325 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS!!=/

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F-16 Fighting Falcon in HD....


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F-15 Eagle in HD (way better than Mirage 2000-5EI/DI in my book)....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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TAIWAN needs to have more 66 F-16C/D Block 52+ JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS and more 66 F-15E JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS to bring that to a TOTAL of 400 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS while selling off 55 Mirage 2000-5EI/DI JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS and retiring other old JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS!! >=)

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Ballistic Missile Submarine....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Of course, a flexible and adaptable SUBMARINE FORCE is ULTIMATE DETERRENT for My TAIWAN NATION! TAIWAN NAVY will need to have 10 FAST ATTACK Diesel-Electric (AIP) SUBMARINES, 6 FAST ATTACK Nuclear-Powered (PWR) SUBMARINES, and 4 BALLISTIC MISSILE Nuclear-Powered (PWR) SUBMARINES!! ;-)
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#2 Aug 24, 2013
TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
People's Liberation Army (CHINA) Air Force Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liber...

ARTICLE said, "

Modernization program

The 21st century has seen the continuation of the modernization program with China's huge economic growth. It acquired 76 Su-30MKK's from 2000 to 2003, and 24 upgraded Su-30MK2's in 2004. It also produced around 200 J-11s from 2002 onwards and bought 3 batches (at a total of 76) of the Su-27SK/UBK. Production of the J-10 fighter began in 2002 with an estimated 200 aircraft in service currently.

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Sukhoi Su-30MKK Wiki (76 + 24 = 100)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su-30MKK

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Sukhoi Su-27 Wiki (76)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-27

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Shenyang J-11 Wiki (164 as of February 2012)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-11

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Chengdu J-10 Wiki [<---- thanx to IAI Lavi](270 as of August 2012)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-10

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That is TOTAL at 610 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS! That is a lot of modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS not counting MORE OF THEM once CHINA do have THEIR 3 or more AIRCRAFT CARRIERS!!{roll my eyes}
Oh, I just want to point out that TOTAL should be at 586 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS since Sukhoi Su-30MKK JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS are not 100 but just 76 with 24 UPGRADED to Su-30MK2 JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS! BTW, Sukhoi Su-27SK/UBK JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS as AIR SUPERIORITY FIGHTER are not same as Sukhoi Su-30MKK JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS, which Su-30MKK is really for LONG-RANGE STRIKE FIGHTER!! >=)

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Key Asian Indicators: A Book of Charts....
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012...

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Go (game) Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28game%29

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Life and death Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_and_death

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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - It Has to Be This Way (HYPER Extended)....


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CHINA have lots of MONEY to throw around as 2nd LARGEST ECONOMY in our EARTHLY WORLD! My TAIWAN NATION is not looking for WAR though but reaching some kind of MILITARY PARITY or just TWO EYES in LIFE AND DEATH!!=/
anonymous

Barberton, OH

#3 Aug 25, 2013
Your Taiwan is a fraction of the size of mainland China. The weaponry required to defend Taiwan is that which makes invasion not worth the investment.

Taiwan is better off with cheaper, defensive weapons, not modern tactical aircraft.
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#5 Aug 25, 2013
anonymous wrote:
Your Taiwan is a fraction of the size of mainland China. The weaponry required to defend Taiwan is that which makes invasion not worth the investment.

Taiwan is better off with cheaper, defensive weapons, not modern tactical aircraft.
anonymous,

Don't ever try to talk YOUR VERSION of BULL CRAP to me!! >=(

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Israeli Air Force Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Air_Forc...

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McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Wiki (F-15A/B/C/D with 52 and F-15E with 25)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Dougla...

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General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon Wiki (F-16A/B with 107, F-16C/D with 136, and F-16I [IAI Lavi??] with 100)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics...

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That ISRAELI AIR FORCE had (F-15s with [52 + 25] at 77 and F-16s with [107 + 136 + 100] at 343 then [77 + 343] to a TOTAL of 420) a TOTAL of 420 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS!!{roll my eyes}

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Israeli Air Force and their F 15's (ARAB PILOTS are obviously POORLY TRAINED and WEAKLY EQUIPPED compared to GERMAN PILOTS [Luftwaffe], RUSSIAN PILOTS, AMERICAN PILOTS, and so on)....


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ISRAEL spend around 9% of their GDP! ISRAEL have even LESS LAND and LESS POPULATION to TAIWAN! ISRAELI AIR FORCE have F-15s (at 77, or IS that more than 80 said in that video?.... or just CLASSIFIED INFO) and easily more than 400 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS!! >=P

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List of McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle operators Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_McDonnel...

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SOUTH KOREA have 62 F-15Ks! JAPAN have 190 F-15J/DJs, and SINGAPORE have 24 F-15SGs! TAIWAN AIR FORCE will need to have 24 F-15E and 42 F-15C to a TOTAL of 66 F-15C/E JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS as A PERFECT REPLACEMENT mainly for 55 Mirage 2000-5EI/DI JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS! F-15C/E > Mirage 2000-5EI/DI with PILOT SKILLS ALL EQUALLY that is! Mirage SUX once LOADING UP with lots of those FUN AMMO because THEIR AERODYNAMICS SUFFERED GREATLY, which it become a PIECE OF SH!T after that! Remember that OUR EAST ASIAN NEIGHBOURS all have their F-15s already! WHY shouldn't My TAIWAN NATION have ONE of BEST MILITARY AIRCRAFTS for our NATIONAL DEFENSE!? ;-)
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#6 Aug 25, 2013
anonymous wrote:
Taiwan is better off with cheaper, defensive weapons, not modern tactical aircraft.
anonymous,

It should be LEGAL for me to BURN DOWN YOUR CAR and REPLACED IT with an even SLOWER and LESS RELIABLE CAR out there such as 1985 YUGO GV now! I mean WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE that YUGO CAR GOT 4 WHEELS, TOO, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SUPER CARS.... DON'T THEY!? >=P

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1985 Yugo GV from The 50 Worst Cars of All Time....
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/articl...

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'Horrible Bosses' Trailer HD....


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I WAS DRAG RACING.... IN A PRIUS??.... I DON'T WIN A LOT.... lol.... because it's f*cking true! At least, PRIUS is GREEN except that SUDDEN ACCELERATION problem with GHOST IN MACHINE complex.... hehe!! >=D

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BEST CAR EVER FERRARI F40....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Top Gear S16 - Porsche 959 Vs Ferrari F40....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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BEST OF 2011 SUPERCARS....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Extreme Machines: Boeing F/A-18F Super Hornet....
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-reviews/car-c...

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Carrier Operations - F-18 in HD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Referendum on Taiwan's Fourth Nuclear Plant Suspended (OTHER OLD TOPIC)....
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/taiwan/TU32H...

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On POST #10, SO Uncle Sam and BVD WANTS TAIWAN TAX MONEY? Come and get it! Make it happen!! >=)

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Dangerous imbalance on Taiwan....
http://www.aei.org/article/foreign-and-defens...

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The US Air Force - The F-15E Strike Eagle....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Tawian F-15? on The Aviation Forum....
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php...

crobato said, "

The Ching Kuo is a decent fighter. It's a pretty good turn fighter, not many fighters could turn inside an F-5E. But it's TWR is lacking versus an F-16, so it's not the best fighter is you prefer to follow Boyd's theories.

The pluses of the F-15 vs. F-16

For the F-15

1. More punch per mission
2. ROCAF has a severe pilot shortage. It may be better to maximize on the use of the pilots it has than to add more pilots.
3. Lack of composite on the F-15 makes it easier to repair for battle damage on the field.
4. Plane is definitely more survivable. Again, please note Point #2.
5. You can save more on space inside shelters with fewer jets that can do do more output.

For the F-16

1. Better mission turn around rate
2. Already has a training and maintenance infrastructure
3. Will cost less per plane
4. Will fit more planes inside sheltered structures

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Scooter said, "

Surely, the US doesn't want to provoke China. Yet, on the otherhand she must provide Tawian with a credible defense! While F-16's and Mirage 2000's were equal to the task 10-15 years ago. China is now arming with large numbers of Flankers and J-10's! So, if the US allows Tawian to become to weak she is leaving the small island nation open for attack! Really, its a hard balancing act..........strong enough to stand up to China but no to strong to threaten China? Regardless, I believe China is pulling away from Tawian for the first time..........NOT GOOD!

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MODERN Abstract ARCHITECTURE (ARTsy Ang Lee F@GGOTRY) vs TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURE and CIVIL ENGINEERING....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adznautastro/674...

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Impressive! March Of The Exelion (Gunbuster)....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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ALL TAIWANESE MILITARY existed TO WIN FIGHTS and TO WIN WARS by END JUSTIFIES MEANS not so those ARTsy Ang Lee F@GGOTLY useless COWARDS can ran off and hide in My TAIWAN NATION while wasting our time with their GAY Abstract ARTsy BS CRAP!! >=(
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#7 Aug 25, 2013
[POST #4 CENSORED]
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#9 Aug 25, 2013
amcummer wrote:
Taiwan is Chin province and aim to own the south china sea also know as 10 dash line. The weapons are more likely a threat to Philippines than of their own country mainland China.
amcummer,

This is a TAIWAN FORUM not exactly a PHILIPPINES FORUM! YOU don't see TAIWANESE PEOPLE telling PHLIPPINES on which WEAPON SYSTEMS that PHLIPPINES can buy or not buy for their NATIONAL DEFENSE.... do YOU!?{roll my eyes}

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Philippines Forum Wiki....
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/philippines

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Taiwan Ends Sanctions Against Philippines Over Shooting Death....
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/10/world/asia/...

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That is over! Isn't it? So, WHY are YOU still on a TAIWAN FORUM? BTW, My TAIWAN NATION don't really need more 66 F-15C/E JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS and more 66 F-16C/D Block 52+ JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS to DROP BOMBS on a MILITARY WEAK NATION like your PHILIPPINES! We already can do that easily with our CURRENT 325 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS! However, TAIWAN MILITARY will never attacked PHILIPPINES directly because there is really nothing important on your PHILIPPINES to began with! THOSE NEW WEAPONS [<---- EXPENSIVE AS HELL.... NOT SURE ABOUT MONA LISA, BUT OUR TAIWANESE WALLETS ARE BURNING] will be used as HEDGE AGAINST CHINA'S MILITARY BUILD UP!! >=P

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Mega64: GDC 2010 COMMERCIAL #3 (SERIOUS ARTISTS ONLY) GAMES ARE ART....


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Metal Gear Solid - Ground Zeroes- Gameplay !!!....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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BF3 - Air Skill....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Too bad that REAL WAR isn't like VIDEO GAMES that YOU CAN TURN OFF when ONE BECOME BORE WITH IT or just NOT GOING WELL ACCORDING TO PLAN!! >=)

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Spratly Islands Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands

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Spratly Islands dispute Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spratly_Islands_...

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Who owns spratleys island?....
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...

Tuan-VPY said, "

Spratly islands are disputed among countries of China, Vietnam, Taiwan, Philippines and Malaysia (and Brunei.. not sure). In which, Vietnam, China and Taiwan claim all the islands, while others claim parts of them. These countries also set up bases on islands to maintain their administration.

I'm not sure of other countries, but that the Chinese govt establishes bases in the Spratlys displays its desire to control the whole South China Sea and furthermore, Southeastasian countries. It does not have convincing proof on its sovereignty to the islands.

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My TAIWAN NATION only claimed 2 ISLANDS, which is least amount so far! VIETNAM had claimed most ISLANDS, and CHINA had claimed that ENTIRE PLACE!!=/

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File:Spratly with flags.jpg....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

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Key Asian Indicators: A Book of Charts....
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012...

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Anyhow, SPRATLY ISLANDS blur line of SOVEREIGNTY for MANY NATIONS because SPRATLY ISLANDS are really at OPEN SEA!! ;-)
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#10 Aug 26, 2013
TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
Dangerous imbalance on Taiwan....
http://www.aei.org/article/foreign-and-defens...

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The US Air Force - The F-15E Strike Eagle....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =o78byCOPQZ4XX

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Tawian F-15? on The Aviation Forum....
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php...

crobato said, "

The Ching Kuo is a decent fighter. It's a pretty good turn fighter, not many fighters could turn inside an F-5E. But it's TWR is lacking versus an F-16, so it's not the best fighter is you prefer to follow Boyd's theories.

The pluses of the F-15 vs. F-16

For the F-15

1. More punch per mission
2. ROCAF has a severe pilot shortage. It may be better to maximize on the use of the pilots it has than to add more pilots.
3. Lack of composite on the F-15 makes it easier to repair for battle damage on the field.
4. Plane is definitely more survivable. Again, please note Point #2.
5. You can save more on space inside shelters with fewer jets that can do do more output.

For the F-16

1. Better mission turn around rate
2. Already has a training and maintenance infrastructure
3. Will cost less per plane
4. Will fit more planes inside sheltered structures

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Scooter said, "

Surely, the US doesn't want to provoke China. Yet, on the otherhand she must provide Tawian with a credible defense! While F-16's and Mirage 2000's were equal to the task 10-15 years ago. China is now arming with large numbers of Flankers and J-10's! So, if the US allows Tawian to become to weak she is leaving the small island nation open for attack! Really, its a hard balancing act..........strong enough to stand up to China but no to strong to threaten China? Regardless, I believe China is pulling away from Tawian for the first time..........NOT GOOD!

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Will Lockheed Martin Risk China's Wrath by Supplying 66 F-16s to Taiwan?....
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/08...

peterwolf said, "

And what 'wrath' is Lockheed likely to encounter?? China doesn't buy anything from them anyway. So I say to Lockheed, sell whatever you want to Taiwan !! It creates jobs in the U.S.

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LOCKHEED MARTIN are MILITARY ONLY! THOSE MILITARY CONTRACT JOBS are rarely OUTSOURCED, so THEY are MOSTLY LOCAL USA JOBS!! >=)

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DrP79 said, "

The headline is wrong. Lockheed does NOT care about mainline China.

Yet the US might weasel out of the deal.

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Google shows China the white flag of surrender....
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/micwr...

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USA have lots of PRO-CHINA POLITICIANS, who are ready to throw up WHITE FLAG to CHINA at any moment unfortunately!!=(

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General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics...

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66 F-16C/D are around US$18.8 million each! That is US$1,240.8 million TOTAL to USA ECONOMY!! >=)

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McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Dougla...

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SOUTH KOREA 62 F-15K at US$100 million each are MOST ADVANCED version of F-15E, and that cost SOUTH KOREAN at US$6,200 million TOTAL!!=/

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McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Dougla...

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66 F-15C/E with 42 F-15C at US$30 million each and 24 F-15E at US$31.1 million each! That would be US$1,260 million for 42 F-15C and US$746.4 million for 24 F-15E at US$2,006.4 million TOTAL with 66 F-15C/E to USA ECONOMY!! ;-)

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Now, My TAIWAN NATION spend US$1,240.8 million for 66 F-16C/D also PLUS that US$2,006.4 million for 66 F-15C/E to that TAIWAN's US3,247.2 million TOTAL for both 66 F-16C/D and 66 F-15C/E vs SOUTH KOREA's US$6,200 million TOTAL for just 62 F-15K for a saving of US$2,952.8 million TOTAL not WASTED with TAIWAN's PRICE STRATEGY!! >=)
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#11 Aug 26, 2013
TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
Will Lockheed Martin Risk China's Wrath by Supplying 66 F-16s to Taiwan?....
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/08...

peterwolf said, "

And what 'wrath' is Lockheed likely to encounter?? China doesn't buy anything from them anyway. So I say to Lockheed, sell whatever you want to Taiwan !! It creates jobs in the U.S.

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LOCKHEED MARTIN are MILITARY ONLY! THOSE MILITARY CONTRACT JOBS are rarely OUTSOURCED, so THEY are MOSTLY LOCAL USA JOBS!! >=)

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DrP79 said, "

The headline is wrong. Lockheed does NOT care about mainline China.

Yet the US might weasel out of the deal.

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Google shows China the white flag of surrender....
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/micwr...

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USA have lots of PRO-CHINA POLITICIANS, who are ready to throw up WHITE FLAG to CHINA at any moment unfortunately!!=(

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General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics...

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66 F-16C/D are around US$18.8 million each! That is US$1,240.8 million TOTAL to USA ECONOMY!! >=)

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McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Dougla...

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SOUTH KOREA 62 F-15K at US$100 million each are MOST ADVANCED version of F-15E, and that cost SOUTH KOREAN at US$6,200 million TOTAL!!=/

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McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Dougla...

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66 F-15C/E with 42 F-15C at US$30 million each and 24 F-15E at US$31.1 million each! That would be US$1,260 million for 42 F-15C and US$746.4 million for 24 F-15E at US$2,006.4 million TOTAL with 66 F-15C/E to USA ECONOMY!! ;-)

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Now, My TAIWAN NATION spend US$1,240.8 million for 66 F-16C/D also PLUS that US$2,006.4 million for 66 F-15C/E to that TAIWAN's US3,247.2 million TOTAL for both 66 F-16C/D and 66 F-15C/E vs SOUTH KOREA's US$6,200 million TOTAL for just 62 F-15K for a saving of US$2,952.8 million TOTAL not WASTED with TAIWAN's PRICE STRATEGY!! >=)
Oh, I just want to point out that INFLATION will caused those PRICE to be MUCH HIGHER than that! However, TAIWAN could be getting 66 F-16C/Ds and 66 F-15C/Es for PRICE much lower than what SOUTH KOREAN had paid for their 62 F-15Ks without inflation adjusted! BTW, my LAST POST is just HORRIBLE for READING THEM! Here goes another try on that!! ;-)

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F-16 Fighting Falcon in HD....


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66 F-16C/D [TAIWAN without F-15s]:

66 F-16C/D * US$18.8 million = US$1,240.8 million TOTAL

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F-15 Eagle in HD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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62 F-15K [SOUTH KOREA]:

62 F-15K * US$30 million = US$6,200 million TOTAL

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66 F-15C/E [TAIWAN's mix of F-15s]:

42 F-15C * US$30 million = US$1,260 million

24 F-15E * US$31.1 million = US$746.4 million

US$1,260 million + US$746.4 million = US$2,006.4 million TOTAL

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66 F-15C/E will replaced 60 Mirage 2000-5EI/DI at Hsinchu; 66 F-16C/D will replaced 60 IDFs at Tainan; and 60 IDFs will replaced 42 F-5s at Taitung....
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AH-...

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66 F-16C/D + 66 F-15C/E [TAIWAN with F-15s]:

US$1,240.8 million + US$2,006.4 million = US3,247.2 million TOTAL

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62 F-15K - 66 F-16C/D & 66 F-15C/E [TAIWAN Saving vs SOUTH KOREA]:

US$6,200 million - US3,247.2 million = US$2,952.8 million TOTAL

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62 F-15K vs (66 F-16C/D + 66 F-15C/E)[SOUTH KOREA vs TAIWAN]:

US$6,200 million TOTAL vs US3,247.2 million TOTAL

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There.... that should correct it, and bring TAIWAN AIR FORCE to about 400 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS all around My TAIWAN ISLAND NATION!! >=)
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#12 Aug 26, 2013
TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
Oh, I just want to point out that INFLATION will caused those PRICE to be MUCH HIGHER than that! However, TAIWAN could be getting 66 F-16C/Ds and 66 F-15C/Es for PRICE much lower than what SOUTH KOREAN had paid for their 62 F-15Ks without inflation adjusted! BTW, my LAST POST is just HORRIBLE for READING THEM! Here goes another try on that!! ;-)

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F-16 Fighting Falcon in HD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =x-ytNE_SUXcXX

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66 F-16C/D [TAIWAN without F-15s]:

66 F-16C/D * US$18.8 million = US$1,240.8 million TOTAL

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F-15 Eagle in HD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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62 F-15K [SOUTH KOREA]:

62 F-15K * US$30 million = US$6,200 million TOTAL

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66 F-15C/E [TAIWAN's mix of F-15s]:

42 F-15C * US$30 million = US$1,260 million

24 F-15E * US$31.1 million = US$746.4 million

US$1,260 million + US$746.4 million = US$2,006.4 million TOTAL

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66 F-15C/E will replaced 60 Mirage 2000-5EI/DI at Hsinchu; 66 F-16C/D will replaced 60 IDFs at Tainan; and 60 IDFs will replaced 42 F-5s at Taitung....
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AH-...

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66 F-16C/D + 66 F-15C/E [TAIWAN with F-15s]:

US$1,240.8 million + US$2,006.4 million = US3,247.2 million TOTAL

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62 F-15K - 66 F-16C/D & 66 F-15C/E [TAIWAN Saving vs SOUTH KOREA]:

US$6,200 million - US3,247.2 million = US$2,952.8 million TOTAL

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62 F-15K vs (66 F-16C/D + 66 F-15C/E)[SOUTH KOREA vs TAIWAN]:

US$6,200 million TOTAL vs US3,247.2 million TOTAL

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There.... that should correct it, and bring TAIWAN AIR FORCE to about 400 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS all around My TAIWAN ISLAND NATION!! >=)
[I seem to CUT AND PASTE with ERR on F-15K pricing, which should be at US$100 million]

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62 F-15K [SOUTH KOREA]:

62 F-15K * US$100 million = US$6,200 million TOTAL

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[CORRECTED]

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Just want to make a CASE for 66 F-15C/E (with 24 F-15E and 42 F-15C) in TAIWAN!! >=)

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[Nothing wrong with this]

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66 F-15C/E will replaced 60 Mirage 2000-5EI/DI at Hsinchu; 66 F-16C/D will replaced 60 IDFs at Tainan; and 60 IDFs will replaced 42 F-5s at Taitung....
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AH-...

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[Just a quick comment]

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Taiwan High Speed Rail....
http://moneyandtravel.files.wordpress.com/201...

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66 F-15C/E should be at HSINCHU BASE to reach further into NORTHERN PARTS of CHINA MAINLAND! That is while 66 F-16C/D should be at TAINAN BASE to reach further into SOUTHERN PARTS of CHINA MAINLAND! 60 IDFs should goes to TAITUNG BASE! TAIWAN HIGH SPEED RAIL should reach around TAIWAN in an 8 shape eventually with ability to move LARGER SIZE CARGO aside to just PEOPLE!! >=)
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#13 Aug 27, 2013
TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
[I seem to CUT AND PASTE with ERR on F-15K pricing, which should be at US$100 million]

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62 F-15K [SOUTH KOREA]:

62 F-15K * US$100 million = US$6,200 million TOTAL

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[CORRECTED]

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Just want to make a CASE for 66 F-15C/E (with 24 F-15E and 42 F-15C) in TAIWAN!! >=)

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[Nothing wrong with this]

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66 F-15C/E will replaced 60 Mirage 2000-5EI/DI at Hsinchu; 66 F-16C/D will replaced 60 IDFs at Tainan; and 60 IDFs will replaced 42 F-5s at Taitung....
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AH-...

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[Just a quick comment]

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Taiwan High Speed Rail....
http://moneyandtravel.files.wordpress.com/201...

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66 F-15C/E should be at HSINCHU BASE to reach further into NORTHERN PARTS of CHINA MAINLAND! That is while 66 F-16C/D should be at TAINAN BASE to reach further into SOUTHERN PARTS of CHINA MAINLAND! 60 IDFs should goes to TAITUNG BASE! TAIWAN HIGH SPEED RAIL should reach around TAIWAN in an 8 shape eventually with ability to move LARGER SIZE CARGO aside to just PEOPLE!! >=)
South Korea F-15K....


USArmySpecialist said, "

I'm afraid you're kinda wrong. The F-15K is the second most advance of the F-15's series. The F-15SG is the most advance out of all...

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F-15SG Differences....
http://www.f-15e.info/joomla/export-variants/...

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FUNNY how SOUTH KOREA have that RANGE with F-15K to DROP BOMB right into TAIWAN!!=/

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15thsquadron01 said, "

Macross Multi- Missiles are Awsome!

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AMV - Macross Plus (Cream Puff - Information High)....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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USAF ATF - Northrop YF-23 Black Widow II....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Tribute to Northrop/McDonnell Douglas YF-23 "Black Widow" Prototype....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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F-22 Tribute....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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USAF F-22 Raptor Super Maneuverability....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor in HD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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USA could always sell their F-22 to TAIWAN! I'm not a big fan of F-35 though because F-35 is UNDERPOWERED and OVERWEIGHT! F-15C/E and F-16C/D are kind of OLD TECHNOLOGY now a day, which USA should just SELL THEM to TAIWAN already without any delay at all! Both RUSSIA and CHINA have SIMILAR PERFORMANCE with FLANKER FAMILY such as Su-30, Su-34, Su-35, and so on vs F-16C/D and F-15C/E!! >=P
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#15 Aug 28, 2013
amcummer wrote:
The weapons are more likely a threat to Philippines than of their own country mainland China.
amcummer,

By YOUR (Low IQ!?) own LOGIC, PHILIPPINES should not have any WEAPONS for NATIONAL DEFENSE, too, consider that your PHILIPPINES COAST GUARDS can not even go by INTERNATIONAL LAW OF SEA, which your PHILIPPINES COAST GUARDS had been A THREAT to any UN-ARMED CIVILIANS AT SEA so far including our TAIWANESE FISHERMAN!! >=(

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United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea Wiki....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_C...

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My TAIWAN NATION should have THESE Absalon-Class crossbreed (BEST FEATURES) with F-100-Class FRIGATES for our TAIWAN NAVY at our SEA as far as my concern!! >=)

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Discovery Channel Mighty Ships, S02E06, HDMS Absalon, 720p, HD....


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Production of Most Powerful Danish Frigate Ever Starts -- in Lithuania....
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx...

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LCS- So why doesnít USA clone Absalon?(Could be CORRUPTION!?{roll my eyes})....
http://noticiarionaval.blogspot.com/2008/07/l...

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Absalon-Class command and support ships.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Oerlikon Millennium 35mm Naval Gun successfully in service (CIWS for Phalanx REPLACEMENT)....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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!!! AUTOAIMING NEW GERMAN AIR DEFENSE !!! RELEASED!!- MANTIS!(all of TAIWAN DESTROYERS and FRIGATES must have 2 [FWD (on raised pentagon platform behind deck of 127mm NAVAL GUN) and AFT (on edge of helicopter hangar)] on each WARSHIP [360 degree coverage])....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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RAM Greatest Hits [21 cell or 11 cell version](all of TAIWAN DESTROYERS and FRIGATES will also have 2 [FWD (on raised pentagon platform near front of observation tower or top) and AFT (on raised pentagon platform on center of helicopter hangar)] on each WARSHIP [360 degree coverage])....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Why SeaRAM is Superior to Phalanx [<---- obsolete in my book]....
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htada/articl...

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ESSM and SEA RAM [<---- 64 ESSM with 16 cell will go into one 48 cell VLS (FWD) and another 48 cell VLS (AFT) on TAIWAN DESTROYERS while FRIGATES will just go into one 48 cell VLS (FWD) when TAIWAN have our VLS in additional to TWO of 21 cell RAM (FWD and AFT)]....
http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/rep...

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Raytheon: RIM 162D ESSM Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Military testing its own system for launching missiles (TAIWANESE ENGINEERS have to do everything ourselves at end even with LOW FUNDING)....
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archiv...

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Sylver Vertical Launch System (VLS)....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

stalkingalizee said, "

This is the Sylver VLS of France, not the Mk 41 of America. It doesn't hold American weapons. It holds French missiles Aster 15/30, VL MICA and Scalp cruise missiles. It will also hold Aster Block 2 ABM missiles by 2020. There are discussions to put American missiles in it for foreign customers but not currently available.

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USA sure got competition! Of course, FRANCE don't have balls to sell THOSE to TAIWAN though!! >=P

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Fragatas clase FREMM (Francia-Italia)....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Even USA's Mk 45 127mm NAVAL GUN have competition as well!! ;-)

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BEST FRIGATE IN THE WORLD F-100, Hobart class....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Absalon-Class + F-100-Class = FUTURE Taiwan FRIGATES!! >=)
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#16 Sep 1, 2013
TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
My TAIWAN NATION should have THESE Absalon-Class crossbreed (BEST FEATURES) with F-100-Class FRIGATES for our TAIWAN NAVY at our SEA as far as my concern!! >=)

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Discovery Channel Mighty Ships, S02E06, HDMS Absalon, 720p, HD....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =VtoRQcRY130XX

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Production of Most Powerful Danish Frigate Ever Starts -- in Lithuania....
http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx...
ARTICLE said, "

$312 million per ship -- compare this to the staggering cost of U.S. Navy surface warships, even relatively small ones such as the Littoral Combat Ship...

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TAIWAN NAVY must have these DENMARK Absalon-Class FRIGATES in our TAIWANESE FLEET!! ;-)

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TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
LCS- So why doesnít USA clone Absalon?(Could be CORRUPTION!?{roll my eyes})....
http://noticiarionaval.blogspot.com/2008/07/l...

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Absalon-Class command and support ships.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
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TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
!!! AUTOAIMING NEW GERMAN AIR DEFENSE !!! RELEASED!!- MANTIS!(all of TAIWAN DESTROYERS and FRIGATES must have 2 [FWD (on raised pentagon platform behind deck of 127mm NAVAL GUN) and AFT (on edge of helicopter hangar)] on each WARSHIP [360 degree coverage])....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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RAM Greatest Hits [21 cell or 11 cell version](all of TAIWAN DESTROYERS and FRIGATES will also have 2 [FWD (on raised pentagon platform near front of observation tower or top) and AFT (on raised pentagon platform on center of helicopter hangar)] on each WARSHIP [360 degree coverage])....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Why SeaRAM is Superior to Phalanx [<---- obsolete in my book]....
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htada/articl...

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ESSM and SEA RAM [<---- 64 ESSM with 16 cell will go into one 48 cell VLS (FWD) and another 48 cell VLS (AFT) on TAIWAN DESTROYERS while FRIGATES will just go into one 48 cell VLS (FWD) when TAIWAN have our VLS in additional to TWO of 21 cell RAM (FWD and AFT)]....
http://warships1discussionboards.yuku.com/rep...

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Raytheon: RIM 162D ESSM Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Military testing its own system for launching missiles (TAIWANESE ENGINEERS have to do everything ourselves at end even with LOW FUNDING)....
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archiv...

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Sylver Vertical Launch System (VLS)....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
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TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
USA sure got competition! Of course, FRANCE don't have balls to sell THOSE to TAIWAN though!! >=P

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Fragatas clase FREMM (Francia-Italia)....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Even USA's Mk 45 127mm NAVAL GUN have competition as well!! ;-)

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BEST FRIGATE IN THE WORLD F-100, Hobart class....
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Taiwan plans to buy 2 US warships in face of perceived China threat....
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/1...

ARTICLE said, "

The defence ministry has listed $187 million (Taiwan $5.6 billion) in its 2014 and 2015 budgets to buy two Perry-class frigates from the US navy, said lawmaker Lin Yu-fang, citing defence budgets submitted to the parliament.

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TAIWAN NAVY needs DENMARK Absalon-Class FRIGATES at $312 million per ship for 8 or more to replace other INFERIOR Frigate WARSHIPS in our TAIWANESE FLEET! TAIWAN and TAIWANESE PEOPLE should UN-ELECTED those USELESS POLITICIANS from RIGHT and from LEFT that even try to BUY JUNKS for our TAIWANESE MILITARY! GREATEST THREAT in TAIWAN is from CHINA's FIFTH COLUMN!!=/
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#17 Sep 1, 2013
[POST #8 CENSORED]

[POST #14 CENSORED]
TW_sugar_daddio

Temple, TX

#18 Sep 4, 2013
TW_sugar_daddio wrote:
Taiwan plans to buy 2 US warships in face of perceived China threat....
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/1...

ARTICLE said, "

The defence ministry has listed $187 million (Taiwan $5.6 billion) in its 2014 and 2015 budgets to buy two Perry-class frigates from the US navy, said lawmaker Lin Yu-fang, citing defence budgets submitted to the parliament.

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Or, just follow this LIST!! ;-)

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DooM Music - Sign Of Evil [e1m8][HQ]....


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Taiwan Plans New Infrastructure for Disputed South China Sea Claim (OTHER OLD TOPIC)....
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/taiwan/TJ9F1...

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TAIWAN AIR FORCE:

66 more F-16C/D Block 52+ JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS and

66 more F-15C/D/E (24 E, 10 D, and 32 C) JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS
to bring our TOTAL to around 400 modern JET FIGHTER AIRCRAFTS

12 more Lockheed P-3 Orion (JAPAN have 101 P-3Cs)
to bring our TOTAL to 24 Lockheed P-3 Orion (CHINA have 70+ SUBS)

8 EADS/Northrop Grumman KC-45

12 Boeing C-17 Globemaster III [<---- preferred] or Lockheed C-5 Galaxy

28 more Lockheed C-130 Hercules
to bring our TOTAL to 48 Lockheed C-130 Hercules

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Xenogears OST - Lost Broken Shards....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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TAIWAN NAVY:

8 more Type 212 [or similar] FAST ATTACK Diesel-Electric (AIP) SUBMARINES
to bring our TOTAL to 10 FAST ATTACK Diesel-Electric (AIP) SUBMARINES

6 Virginia-Class [or similar] FAST ATTACK Nuclear-Powered (PWR) SUBMARINES

4 Vanguard-Class [or similar] BALLISTIC MISSILE Nuclear-Powered (PWR) SUBMARINES
to bring our TOTAL to 20 modern SUBMARINES

8 Arleigh Burke-Class [or similar] DESTROYERS as well include
AN/SQS-53C Sonar,
ONE Oto Melara 127/64 LW ([FWD]),
TWO GDM-008 Oerlikon Millennium 35mm ([FWD] and [AFT]),
TWO 48-cell Mk 41 VLS ([FWD] and [AFT]) with **,
** 16-cell with 64 RIM-162 ESSM ([FWD])
** 16-cell with 16 Standard SM-2MR Block IIIA ([FWD])
** 8-cell with 8 RUM-139 VL-ASROC ([FWD))
** 8-cell with 8 BGM-109 TLAM ([FWD])
** 16-cell with 64 RIM-162 ESSM ([AFT])
** 32-cell with 32 Standard SM-2MR Block IIIA ([AFT])
TWO 21-cell RIM-116 RAM ([FWD] and [AFT]),
AN/SPY-1 Radar,
AN/SLQ-32(V)2 Electronic Warfare System,
Mk 53 Nulka Decoy Systems,
TWO 3-cell Mk 32 Torpedo Tubes with 6 Mk 54 Torpedo,
FOUR 4-cell Mk 141 Launchers with 16 RGM-84 Harpoon SSM,
TWO Small Unit Riverine Craft,
TWO Sikorsky MH-60R Seahawk with TWO HELICOPTER HANGARS,
AN/SQR-19 Tactical Towed Array Sonar,
AN/SLQ-25 Nixie Torpedo Decoy Systems,
and so on

24 Absalon-Class crossbreed (BEST FEATURES) with F-100-Class [or similar] FRIGATES as well include
(same weapons layout as OUR Custom Designed DESTROYERS but with ONE 48-cell Mk 41 VLS ([FWD]) only and FLEX DECK design [UNLOAD SIDEWAYS])

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Hitman 1 PC Game Theme Music....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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TAIWAN ARMY:

200 to 400 Leopard 2A6 [or similar] MAIN BATTLE TANKS

200 to 400 Combat Vehicle 90 [or similar] TRACKED Tank Chassis APC

200 more PzH 2000 HEAVY SELF-PROPELLED HOWITZERS
to bring our TOTAL to around 400 modern HEAVY SELF-PROPELLED HOWITZERS

100 or more Archer FH77 BW L52 LIGHT SELF-PROPELLED HOWITZERS

200 or more M777 LIGHT TOWED HOWITZERS

18 Saab ARTHUR

21 more Boeing CH-47 Chinook
to bring our TOTAL to 30 Boeing CH-47 Chinook

30 more UH-60M Black Hawk
to bring our TOTAL to 90 UH-60M Black Hawk

30 MH-6 Little Bird

??? CheyTac M200

??? Arctic Warfare Super Magnum L115A3

??? Sako TRG-22/42 (REPLACEMENT for M24 [REMINGTON MOMENT!?])

??? Mk 48 Machine Gun (REPLACEMENT for FN MAG)

??? FNH Scar 16S

??? FNH PS90 (for fun.... no?)

??? FNH Five-Seven

??? FNH FNP-45 Tactical (REPLACEMENT for M1911)

??? SIG Sauer P226 Elite (REPLACEMENT for Beretta M9)

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Lost Planet music tribute....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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My TAIWAN NATION Improved NEW LIST!! >=)

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