China sends carrier to South China Sea for training amid maritime disputes

Nov 26, 2013 Full story: The Daily Star 91

Anti-China activists display placards in protest outside Taoyuan international airport outside Taipei as Chinese envoy Chen Deming arrives on the island for an eight-day visit on November 26, 2013.

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RayH

Shenzhen, China

#1 Nov 26, 2013
Cool.
HATED DICTATOR Xi Jinping

Surrey, Canada

#2 Nov 26, 2013
Wu Mao Spam to boardwash is "cool"?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#3 Nov 26, 2013
RayH wrote:
Cool.
IMO I don't think so.

The PLAN Aircraft Carrier CV16 is a training as well as an experimental vessel.

It will be located close to Dalian as the vessel is constantly upgrade for new system. Maybe they may even installed a catapult as part of the upgrade.

For the South China Sea, they can always send their 071 LPD which is more effectively as well as their 056 corvette which are specially designed for the shallow Sundance Shelf.

China has announced they will built up to 50 of such warships for the South China Sea. Together with the 80~100 odd 022 Stealth Catamaran Missile boats, it is already formidable. These types of warships are more suitable for these shallow seas and will not be easily grounded due to their design.

Both PLAN as well USN has their bigger destroyers grounded there.
Timm Maddog

Tainan, Taiwan

#4 Nov 28, 2013
Tiau Yu Tai is in the East China Sea.

The Liaoning goes to the South China Sea. LOL!

Very interesting!
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#5 Nov 28, 2013
Well. Like I says before it is just a training vessel and their mission is to train present and future sailors for their next Aircraft Carrier.

The first F15 naval squadron will only be ready by early next year.

One important observation is when China Navy dare to sail the CV016 Aircraft Carrier so far South into the South China Sea, it means that they have enough confident with this ship is reliable and that it will not break down half way. This is very interesting in view of the short time they took to progress to this stage. Bravo!

Although Varvay was bought second hand. Apart from the hull, China has practically redesigned and built the rest of the system from a scratch including those arresting cables that Russian refuse to sell. It is still unclear what engine they are using. But unlike the second hand STOBAR INS Vikramadiya acquired and rebuilt by Russia which is commissioned without any long range air defense, CV016 is air and ship defense is quite potent. The only thing lacking is a launch catapult.

I heard it is accompanied by a number of other warships e.g. 052C AEGIS destroyers and 054A frigates.
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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#6 Nov 28, 2013
Timm Maddog wrote:
Tiau Yu Tai is in the East China Sea.
The Liaoning goes to the South China Sea. LOL!
Very interesting!
I almost missed the sarcasm in your first line!

You are saying that because of your own lack of knowledge on this piece of hardware.

1. The CV016 Aircraft Carrier is mainly intended as a TRAINING Aircraft Carrier.

2. It is not COMBAT READY as it does not even operated a full squadron of J15 yet. I doubt apart from helicopters or maybe 1~2 F15, they are carrying any other aircraft with them on this training mission.

3. Their mission is maybe to test the rough seas and maybe attempt landing and take-off in those harsh conditions.

4. Diaoyutai do not need the CV016 Liaoning. Send a training Aircraft Carrier to Diayutai proves absolutely NOTHING!

5. Declaring an ADIZ as well as sending unmanned UCAV is what worry the Japan Miliatry most.

6. Even the Philippines FM Albert Del Rosario is worry that China may declared the same for South China Sea as part of his PROPAGANDA. If Philippines allows the Japan to built a MILITARY AIR BASE in Philippines, that will be one guarantee China will declare an ADIZ in SOuth China Sea. Philippines, your move next! Stop using the issue of an ADIZ before China even announced it to distract the Pinoy attention at Philippines Government incompetency and lack of response at the disaster at Haiyan.
Timm Maddog

Taiwan

#7 Nov 28, 2013
It is so Amazing wrote:
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I almost missed the sarcasm in your first line!
You are saying that because of your own lack of knowledge on this piece of hardware.
1. The CV016 Aircraft Carrier is mainly intended as a TRAINING Aircraft Carrier.
2. It is not COMBAT READY as it does not even operated a full squadron of J15 yet. I doubt apart from helicopters or maybe 1~2 F15, they are carrying any other aircraft with them on this training mission.
3. Their mission is maybe to test the rough seas and maybe attempt landing and take-off in those harsh conditions.
4. Diaoyutai do not need the CV016 Liaoning. Send a training Aircraft Carrier to Diayutai proves absolutely NOTHING!
5. Declaring an ADIZ as well as sending unmanned UCAV is what worry the Japan Miliatry most.
6. Even the Philippines FM Albert Del Rosario is worry that China may declared the same for South China Sea as part of his PROPAGANDA. If Philippines allows the Japan to built a MILITARY AIR BASE in Philippines, that will be one guarantee China will declare an ADIZ in SOuth China Sea. Philippines, your move next! Stop using the issue of an ADIZ before China even announced it to distract the Pinoy attention at Philippines Government incompetency and lack of response at the disaster at Haiyan.
On the contrary to the many chest thumping pundits who trumpeted the 2 B-52's show of force, IMHO China's declaration of an ADIZ is already a complete success!

Beijing's leaders are not fools that will want to wage war against the USA and Japan but the ADIZ declaration have now made the whole world focus sharply on the seriousness of the Diauyu/Senkaku dispute with Japan.

With B-52 bombers and the USS George Washington and the 7th fleet plus Japan's own 80 MSDF vessels clogging the area
how can Tokyo now deny the existence of a territorial conflict with China and Taiwan?

So the Liaoning just goes for a walk in the park.
funny

Nanaimo, Canada

#8 Nov 28, 2013
china is acting like germany under hitler. provoking neighbours, banning books, demanding territory, building up army...can china take on the world with its aggression?
Good toys

DrÝbak, Norway

#9 Nov 28, 2013
What kind of toys are these? My child may have some of them.
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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#10 Nov 28, 2013
funny wrote:
china is acting like germany under hitler. provoking neighbours, banning books, demanding territory, building up army...can china take on the world with its aggression?
You are talking like that because you get an F for your history.

Frankly if any historians will tell you in fact today USA is getting FACIST and Rule of Law is slowly eroding there because of abuses and loopholes.

How did China provoke her neighbors?

Who send their warships to Huangyan Island to arrest those Chinese Fishermen sheltering from the storm there? China acting in defense and response in a territory which they considered their historical land is named the aggressor.

Great logic you will raised with?

Japan extend her ADIZ in 2010 almost touching the tip of Northern Taiwan and the coast of China is totally ignored and blackout is a matter of right.

An ADIZ is not a territorial extension but merely a defense procedure in or for China to response early. There is two ways that these system works. The pilot responding to China inquiry over the air: Who are you like what happen to Indian Naval Ship approaching the Hainan Island last year or fax in your flight plan. Failing like uSA, they may be escorted to a airfield in China for inspection or even get shot down like what USA did next to Iran.

And I assured you these missile are not toys otherwise USA will not be panicking over such the sales of equivalent downgrade weapons in compliance to MTCR to states hostile to USA. Even the sales of HQ9C to Turkey scare the hell out of USA.

Can China take on USA and all her allies in ASIA?
The answer is YES according to Australia Intelligence who did a simulation on their computer.

Then why didn't China just do that? Because China is not an EXPANSIONIST country historically or now. She is merely response to USA provocation and STUPID Asia Pivot Game Plan.

Today we are hearing a lot of BS Propaganda from USA because USA knew she is corner and the worse scenario is USA is BROKE!

That is why she is not ordering any more Zumwalt DD1000 but outdate AB III destroyers instead.
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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#11 Nov 28, 2013
Can China takes on USA combined with her Allies in Asia which includes Japan, SK, Taiwan, Singapore, Australia, India, etc?
The answer is Yes based on Australia Military Intelligence recently. They did a simulation test on the scenario and China "WINS".

But one forget this; Why should SK, Taiwan, Australia or even Singapore or India participated in a war with their TOP TRADING PARTNER?

USA Asia Pivotal is destabiling much like the TPP they propose to excluded China. Imagine USA mooting a set of rule where in any trade dispute all cases to be decide by USA court. Remember how Samsung lost their case in USA where the judge rules Samsing Galaxy is a clone of iPhone. Is it? Samsung uses Android and what is iPhone using. And so in Germany the court overrule USA iPhone. If this is the way USA is going to behave, she lost the world to China.

China send their HOSPITAL SHIP to Philippines while USA send their AIRCRAFT CARRIER is an example of how the two SUPERPOWER response. China can easily send their 071 LPD there but she did not.

Joe Biden can raise the issue of ADIZ in China but China will asked USA whether she is prepared to dismantle her own and order lackey nation Japan to do so as well.

It is that SIMPLE but will USA do it! We all knew the answer. USA will protect Japan by saying Japan need the ADIZ which is drawn close to China coast to defend herself from North Korean. But is that a valid argument?

Come on Obama USA! We meaning ASIAN are not idiot! That is why ASEAN considered Philippines the BADBOY of USA and theonly excuse we give was Philippines was acting on behalf of USA, the hidden culprit.
Matsushima

Taipei, Taiwan

#12 Nov 28, 2013
Abe is back! Japan is back!

Tokyo will be capital of Taiwan, Korea and Manchuria again! BANZAI!
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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#13 Nov 28, 2013
Matsushima wrote:
Abe is back! Japan is back!
Tokyo will be capital of Taiwan, Korea and Manchuria again! BANZAI!
Then wake up soon and urinate!

The next change when you return to sleep is entitled "NIGHTMARE" where you experience the destruction of Japan like your Japanese scifi movie "The Sinking of Japan".
nuke observor

Taiwan

#14 Nov 28, 2013
No more "Combat" war soap opera.
A real fighting show will happen! Every on newspaper.

New toy, new ship. Su-31, F-23, B-52...
no need to buy movie ticket to see spiderman,Topgun....

many thanks. Mr. Chairmam.
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#15 Nov 28, 2013
nuke observor wrote:
No more "Combat" war soap opera.
A real fighting show will happen! Every on newspaper.
New toy, new ship. Su-31, F-23, B-52...
no need to buy movie ticket to see spiderman,Topgun....
many thanks. Mr. Chairmam.
What is the so-called REAL FIGHTING SHOW of yours?

One that is fought in the arcade. In a real world, there are espionage, conspiracy, betrayal, make believe, lies, etc.

It only gets irritating when the intruders sue the owner for slipping in the floor he breaks in e.g. USA will making hue and cry over China spying to be exposed by Edward Snowden as the biggest culprit herself.

Are we surprised?

Naturally not, after reading all the scandal in USA which included deep throat, Tonkin Bay False flag that justified USA entry into Vietnam or false evidence created by USA over Saddam Iraq, etc and now eavesdropping on allies leaders pirate phones, USA herself is not only a culprit but a criminal.

That is why Wikilead founder and NSA defector Edward are all held to hostage.

That is the real world, you will awaken to.

As for toy you described, even without a warhead and Chinese toy at mach 5.5 firing into any real warship which sink it to the tune of "My heart will goes on".
Joel

Lane Cove, Australia

#16 Nov 28, 2013
Matsushima wrote:
Abe is back! Japan is back!
Tokyo will be capital of Taiwan, Korea and Manchuria again! BANZAI!
No wonder no one here in Australia likes Japan because of her aggression and evil plot to grab land around the world. Never trust the jap.
gengis khan

Rotorua, New Zealand

#17 Nov 28, 2013
Joel wrote:
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No wonder no one here in Australia likes Japan because of her aggression and evil plot to grab land around the world. Never trust the jap.
hahahahaha, Joel you little tool of the commie china,, go back to learning English, then go home to your polluted china.
Aussies love Japan,, ask the Foreign Minister, she called in the commie ambassador and tore him to strips.
Aussies hate the commies, Hell I know that,, when I go there I have to explain all the time that I am Taiwan,, not commie china, same as my friends from Singapore, and Malaysia
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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#18 Nov 28, 2013
gengis khan wrote:
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hahahahaha, Joel you little tool of the commie china,, go back to learning English, then go home to your polluted china.
Aussies love Japan,, ask the Foreign Minister, she called in the commie ambassador and tore him to strips.
Aussies hate the commies, Hell I know that,, when I go there I have to explain all the time that I am Taiwan,, not commie china, same as my friends from Singapore, and Malaysia
If you GANGESCUNT ever have friend over this part of the world, you must be speaking in Japanese and kowtowing to them on your kneel like a slave did doing WW2. Nice I should take a photo of your rear and post to show others what a obedience nip you are!
Matsushima

Taipei, Taiwan

#19 Nov 28, 2013
People of Taiwan, Korea and Manchuria loves Japan! They are happy Abe is back ! Abe sends planes to China's adiz and PRC planes awol!
It is so Amazing

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#20 Nov 28, 2013
Matsushima wrote:
People of Taiwan, Korea and Manchuria loves Japan! They are happy Abe is back ! Abe sends planes to China's adiz and PRC planes awol!
You can even sing those word to the Japanese tune of "Sayonara" but it does not make any difference to us because the truth is ASIAN just simply wanted to say SAYONARA to Japanese Rightist Government in the Land of the Setting Sun.

Bye Bye Japan forever!

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