'Wire' episodes fall flat when plot e...

'Wire' episodes fall flat when plot enters the newsroom

There are 32 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Dec 30, 2007, titled 'Wire' episodes fall flat when plot enters the newsroom. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Writing about the past four seasons of HBO's The Wire has been one of the great pleasures of this job.

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Anney

Worth, IL

#22 Dec 31, 2007
Sorry, to clarify -- Sydnor's quote from Season 3 is repeated by McNulty in Season 5.
Not Beat

Wilmington, DE

#23 Dec 31, 2007
i think everyone should just shut the hell up and watch THEN decide what they think...are we really gonna get hyped off the opinion of some ego manaical newpaper writer who is deeply offended by how his place of employment is potrayed? everyone should decide for themselves......
Wenalway

Louisville, KY

#24 Dec 31, 2007
Yawn -- another newspaper wimp who can dish it out but can't handle the return fire. Newsrooms today are filled with wimps and infopimps, and they deserve whatever criticism they get.

They've slept through their wake-up call for years. It's beyond time to clean house in some of these places. There are far too many gutless managing editors running places into the ground. Meanwhile, the content has devolved into softball stories, celebrity fluff and poorly written, one-dimensional podium pieces from AP's glorified stenographers.
Jay Smooth

New York, NY

#25 Jan 1, 2008
Seems like at least one of these two Davids is too close to the issues at hand to judge and address them properly.. time will tell which one is which.

One thing it's safe to say already: this complaint about Simon's depicting an older incarnation of the Sun rather than a current one is missing the point and not a useful criticism.
Jay Smooth

New York, NY

#26 Jan 1, 2008
'and a lot of the dialogue from Seasons 3 and 4 is exactly the same. In Season 3, Sydnor says, "someday, I'm going to work for a real police department" after the Major Crimes Unit stops tracking Kintel Williamson; McNulty says the exact same thing at the end of Episode 1, and one of the Baltimore Sun actors says "someday, I'm going to work for a real newspaper." It gets kind of tedious.'

you do realize this is intentional?
John from NYC

Woodhaven, NY

#27 Jan 1, 2008
Jay Smooth wrote:
'and a lot of the dialogue from Seasons 3 and 4 is exactly the same. In Season 3, Sydnor says, "someday, I'm going to work for a real police department" after the Major Crimes Unit stops tracking Kintel Williamson; McNulty says the exact same thing at the end of Episode 1, and one of the Baltimore Sun actors says "someday, I'm going to work for a real newspaper." It gets kind of tedious.'
you do realize this is intentional?
Intentional and appropriate. You might as well complain that Clay Davis says the same drawn out curse word all the time or that Omar whistles the Farmer in the Dell too often or that Bodie spit too much. Things in the show echo each other and play off one another. Usually the first episode of each season lays out the blueprint of the remaining season. So I'm not sure what Anney is complaining about comparing the first episode to the entirety of season 4.

Also the thing about the Sun people being terrible actors, most of the cameoing reporters had one or two lines at most and were no worse than the real corner boys or cops of politicos who have also made appearences. I don't recall anyone complaining about Spider or Mello or Norris being bad actors mostly because they don't have big scenes and are not given anything beyond their ability. But it's great to have them on the show as local color and also as alternatives to the usual LA-NYC too good looking to be believable extras and bit players you find in most network fare. I thought the first episode was of the usual high quality and expect only more of the same. Remember Lehane, Pelecanos and Price still write for the show, mediocrity is just not possible.
Anney

Worth, IL

#28 Jan 1, 2008
This is ridiculous -- criticize The Wire and get jumped on because it can apparently do no wrong. I have no problem with Clay Davis's repeated "shieeeeeeeeet," it's funny and it works no matter how many times he says it. But my main point was that a lot of the first episode feels recycled, and not in an entertaining way.

I know it is laying the groundwork for future episodes, but still.
Asycough

Suitland, MD

#29 Jan 1, 2008
The non-actors Simon puts on the show almost universally stink as actors. During Season Four, you could put up with the occasional cameo from the teacher's assistant ("I ain't even gonna try to pronounce his name.").

But in the first episode of the Fifth Season, it seems like every third actor was plucked from Catonsville Community Theatre. Many of their scenes are cringe-producing.

It is an absolutely legitimate criticism.
davidaaronclark

Hawthorne, CA

#30 Jan 1, 2008
Thou doth protest too much. You embarass yourself with this obviously peeved review. I'm sure the real-life drug dealers & school adminstrators previously depicted in THE WIRE might have complaints about the telescoping & rearranging of the unadorned facts of their real lives, as well. But THE WIRE is fiction, & it's making a point. Of all the reviews across the internet so far, it's odd that only the BS reviewer (that has a ring to it, eh?) even notices the imagined stiffness of his own paper's non-actor ex-staffers. It's okay, though. It's not unusual human behavior for someone to applaud when others' foibles are held up for examination, & then cry foul when the eye turns on them.
AdamNYC

Jersey City, NJ

#31 Jan 2, 2008
When was The Wire ever about mainstream entertainment? And as any loyal fan knows, you cant review the Wire on one episode or even 7. You need to give it a whole season. Perhaps, the whole run.
Jonathan

Hilton Head Island, SC

#32 Jan 2, 2008
I've seen the first episode of the show and am a working reporter. While I disagree with Zurawik's claim that The Sun stuff drags the fifth season down, he makes interesting — and well-defended — points about David Simon's newsroom characters. Though I've only seen the first episode, the characters did seem more symbolic and less fluid than his street and police characters. For the next six editors, I'll take Zurawik's on them. Regardless, I loved the newsroom stuff and can't wait to see how the series ends.
T Dog

Chicago, IL

#33 Jan 2, 2008
J Thomas wrote:
It's funny how liberals will praise Michael Moore for his phony 911 documentary, but get upset when it's about their world.
What world are you exactly referring to? The hood? Please, do explain.

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