Before lewd videos got Navy captain f...

Before lewd videos got Navy captain fired, he got promoted

There are 73 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jan 4, 2011, titled Before lewd videos got Navy captain fired, he got promoted. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Navy Capt. Owen Honors appears in one of a series of videos that were broadcast via closed-circuit television on the USS Enterprise.

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Kim Jon Dick

Saint Paul, MN

#65 Jan 5, 2011
Johnny O wrote:
Put the gays on the front lines in battlefield, the Taliban likes to be-head homosexuals.
And they think americans are **** phobes.....
The war is over, every one will put down their guns & get a partner.
LETS GO WILD

United States

#66 Jan 5, 2011
Sarah D wrote:
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No, I don't know how to command a military sub. But what does a military sub have to do with this story? The USS Enterprise is an aircraft carrier.
Do you know the difference between a carrier and a sub? I certainly do, especially considering that both my father and my brother were stationed on flat tops when they were in the Navy.
Oh by the way since you have such hostility for gays, if you should ever be in a life threatening situation are you going to demand the sexual orientation of paramedics coming to save you? I mean you wouldn't want a HOMOSEXUAL saving your life now would you.
well ummmm maybe the Navy is allowing women on subs for the first time this year....thats all its got to do with this story. I have hostility for gays when they cost us great Captains like Owens all to be PC. You want these men to die in the field of battle but don't you dare say something offensive. Get a hold of yourself. The jihads are the real enemy to gays.
LETS GO WILD

United States

#67 Jan 5, 2011
Sarah D wrote:
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There ARE gays on the front lines in the battlefield just as there has always been gays on the front lines in any war.
And the Taliban are fond of beheading people no matter what their sexual orientation is ... or their religion either. They're fond of beheading Muslims who disagree with them.
See that's what terrorists do.
So don't think that your heterosexuality would protect you from the Taliban.
wrong the jihads have zero tolerance for homosexuals and be-head them, its in the culture. The question then becomes is that a hate crime?
Tru Dat

Minneapolis, MN

#68 Jan 5, 2011
What the hell is wrong with this country when the men who are risking their lives for us can't have a little stress relieving fun on their free time? This politically correct BS is just going to get worse. Watch for more of these video stars to be fired. I hope they sue like the hissie fittin' special interest groups do. It's not like they leaked military secrets to an America hating rapist.
Davy Jones

Clermont, FL

#69 Jan 5, 2011
Who was skipper when he was XO?
Mullen is a Black Shoe meathead incompetent.
Sarah D

Minneapolis, MN

#70 Jan 5, 2011
LETS GO WILD wrote:
<quoted text>wrong the jihads have zero tolerance for homosexuals and be-head them, its in the culture. The question then becomes is that a hate crime?
I never claimed that they wouldn't behead homosexuals. I just claimed that they would behead heterosexuals as well. They behead ANYONE they don't like.

I don't know if it would be a hate crime. I mean they seem to hate EVERYONE who isn't a member of the Taliban. They're terrorists.

Actually terrorism is a hate crime. It's a hate crime against humanity. Period.
joe kapp

Circle Pines, MN

#71 Jan 5, 2011
I am so f****n fed up with what is happening to my Navy. First they got rid of beards, then allow women on combatant ships (bad luck), no smoking, toned down the crossing the line ceremony, went down to 300 ships from King Ronny and his 600 ship Navy. Now I couldnt care less if you are a flamin homo or not, just let the Navy's traditions remain, it is what has set us apart from all the other services. (Sigh)
Livin Woodbury

Saint Paul, MN

#72 Jan 5, 2011
Sarah D wrote:
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I never claimed that they wouldn't behead homosexuals. I just claimed that they would behead heterosexuals as well. They behead ANYONE they don't like.
I don't know if it would be a hate crime. I mean they seem to hate EVERYONE who isn't a member of the Taliban. They're terrorists.
Actually terrorism is a hate crime. It's a hate crime against humanity. Period.
Then charge them with hate crimes too....
Sarah D

Minneapolis, MN

#73 Jan 5, 2011
LETS GO WILD wrote:
<quoted text>well ummmm maybe the Navy is allowing women on subs for the first time this year....thats all its got to do with this story. I have hostility for gays when they cost us great Captains like Owens all to be PC. You want these men to die in the field of battle but don't you dare say something offensive. Get a hold of yourself. The jihads are the real enemy to gays.
Hey, I was the one who asked why the Navy took three years to punish this guy. I was the one who stated that the Navy higher-ups were throwing this guy to the wolves to protect themselves. They evidently had NO problem with the videos UNTIL THEY WENT PUBLIC.

I think this guy showed poor judgment mainly because I don't think commanding officers should be making clowns of themselves to boost morale. Let the lower ranking officers or the non-coms be the clowns. The commanding officer should always present dignity. S/he's a role model for those under his/her command after all. And s/he is a much greater representative of the military to the civilian population whose taxes pay for the existence of the military. Commanding officers have a much greater responsibility to maintain the image of the armed forces than others in the military.

That said, if the Navy didn't think it necessary to relieve him of command three years ago when he actually made the videos then they shouldn't do it now. That was a call made by his superiors and if they made the wrong call then THEY should take the responsibility for it.

And do you think that NONE of the people killed in combat were gays? Really? You REALLY believe that?
Smoke N Mirrors

Saint Paul, MN

#74 Jan 5, 2011
Sarah D wrote:
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And do you think that NONE of the people killed in combat were gays? Really? You REALLY believe that?
whats that got to do with anything?

Keep the gays in the closet they are best served for all in military. We dont need jimmy and frank getting it on in the shower while ted tries to have some privacy.
Jones

Saint Paul, MN

#75 Jan 5, 2011
After reading many of the posts it is apparent most have not a clue as to what is going on. First the vids were made four and a half years ago, and second he was a XO at the time not Capitan. Wake up people and stop getting your information from crappy news sources.
anonymous

Saint Paul, MN

#76 Jan 6, 2011
joe kapp wrote:
If you have never deployed on a Navy ship then you have no right to judge. I have been on 4 deployments and he wasnt doing it to motivate, he was doing it so the sailors would pay attention to the message he was putting out. I cant tell you how many boring pre-deployment and port visit briefs I had to endure in my 10 years underway, you dont remember anything that was said. Captain Honors was merely trying to make his points stick in the minds of ADD 18 year olds.
Having watched the videos, it is unclear what points he is trying to make. What I came away with was that despite the assumption that all enjoyed his antics, it was clear that is not the case. Some of the sailors interviewed on his tapes were annoyed and noted they had no desire to partake in his XO Movie night or were even aware.

The more I watched the more I noticed it was a small group of the same people partaking in these videos. I wasn't offended by the content, some skits were certainly funny. However, what I came away with was these videos are more about Captain Honors and friends entertaining themselves and have no true value other than that purpose. In fact, after seeing his face over and over again, I'd say he is a bit of an arrogant arse who fancies himself a movie star.
Sarah D

Saint Paul, MN

#77 Jan 6, 2011
Smoke N Mirrors wrote:
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whats that got to do with anything?
Keep the gays in the closet they are best served for all in military. We dont need jimmy and frank getting it on in the shower while ted tries to have some privacy.
"You want these men to die in the field of battle but don't you dare say something offensive."

The above is what it has to do with anything. The poster that I was responding to was acting as if gays should allow themselves to be demeaned because he felt that GAYS were not dying in combat, only heterosexuals were dying in combat.

And what makes you think that all the heterosexual sailors were entertained by demeaning jokes about gays? There ARE heterosexuals, yes even in the MILITARY who don't feel threatened by gays.

And if Jimmy and Frank are getting it on in the shower then reprimand them just as if Judy and Frank are getting it on in the shower. The communal shower is NOT a place for ANYONE to be "getting it on". Deal with an actual infraction not with what you are afraid is going to happen.(and are you really afraid of a "lack of privacy" or are you afraid that if you come across a couple of guys getting it on that YOU might be aroused by it? I think the latter is the real fear of the virulent anti-gay people)

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