Southington teacher fights for job af...

Southington teacher fights for job after appearing on Howard St...

There are 217 comments on the WTNH Hartford, New Haven and Connecticut story from May 21, 2008, titled Southington teacher fights for job after appearing on Howard St.... In it, WTNH Hartford, New Haven and Connecticut reports that:

Southington _ A second-grade teacher from Southington resigns after appearing on the Howard Stern Show.

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mmm

Peabody, MA

#202 May 23, 2008
Who cares if she used a sick day?!? Most jobs you earn your time off...and you shouldn't have to answer to anyone as to why you call out. Should our bosses come to our houses when we call out and take our temps to make sure we are sick?
Sheryl

Sudbury, Canada

#203 May 24, 2008
Buck up honey.
You lied about being sick and took a chance, now you must pay the piper.
What kind of a lesson are you teaching your kids?
No sympathy from my corner.
The big question now is " was it all worth it?"
Steph110

Hebron, CT

#204 May 24, 2008
whoamitojudge wrote:
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Despite my earlier disagreement with you (Post #180), which I'll remain steadfast on, I feel it neccessary to let you know that the above excerpt from your comment deserves some praise. You take your job seriously, and seem to have a genuine interest in your students well-being. My hat's off to you for that. I would be happy to have my children in your classroom as long as the positive is reinforced, but examples of wrongdoing are left for the parents to present and address.
Thank you for the kind words. I am by no means a perfect person or a perfect teacher, but I do try to make choices that I can live with, and know that my loved ones and students will not be hurt by my actions. Marie's students may not specifically know what happened (and I hope they are sheltered from the specifics by their parents), but this fiasco that has turned into losing their teacher could have been avoided by her stopping to think "is this a good decision?" or "could this decision somehow hurt my career?" In the least, realize that it's not something that would be looked highly upon. I do teach compassion and forgiveness, but I feel that she is shocked at what has happened to her. I feel like she feels she has done absolutely no wrong and has made no apologies for anything at all and that I have a problem with. I don't know that it's worth her job, but some consequences should be in place...for anyone (including me or you) when we make a mistake.

I just hope things are settled soon for her and for her students/community.
Jim Sokal

United States

#205 May 27, 2008
I think it is absolutely ridiculous that this teacher lost her job.

She appeared only in a bikini and did nothing lewd.

Meanwhile the same school has NOT fired people who HAVE done inappropriate things.

It is clear the woman did not WANT to resign but was threatened into doing so.

The school should not only give her job back, they should pay damages to her reputation and mental stress for having done this to her.

Furthermore, NONE OF THE 2ND GRADERS WOULD EVEN HAVE KNOWN OF HER ACTIONS IF THE SUPERINTENDENT HAD NOT BROUGHT IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION BY MAKING A BIG DEAL OF IT. NOW THEY KNOW BECAUSE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT'S POOR JUDGMENT IN MAKING IT AN ISSUE.

There is nothing to indicate the teacher has ever done anything wrong.

This is just poor judgment on the part of the Superintendent.
Jim Sokal

United States

#206 May 27, 2008
Miche wrote:
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And now her bikini clad body is being flashed all over the news for everyone to see...she is making it worse for herself. Older students could access www.wtnh.com and recognize the teacher. Even if they didn't HEAR the show, seeing the pictures is worse.
Oh, the HORROR! How would kids ever recover from seeing their teacher in a BIKINI!???

This is the problem. People in this country are so uptight about the human body. THAT is what does damage to kids - being uptight about the human body, about sex, etc.. People who, on the other hand, are not uptight about these things make the children realize that there is nothing to be uptight about!

I'd rather have my kids taught by this woman than you and your uptight type, any day!

Since: May 08

Boston, MA

#207 May 27, 2008
Jim Sokal wrote:
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Oh, the HORROR! How would kids ever recover from seeing their teacher in a BIKINI!???
This is the problem. People in this country are so uptight about the human body. THAT is what does damage to kids - being uptight about the human body, about sex, etc.. People who, on the other hand, are not uptight about these things make the children realize that there is nothing to be uptight about!
I'd rather have my kids taught by this woman than you and your uptight type, any day!
DITTO
John -Doh

United States

#208 May 27, 2008
The issue isn't sick days, that is just a ruse and everyone KNOWS it.
If she is being fired for being caught taking a day off sick when she's not really sick, then I bet the Superintendent and about 2/3 of the rest of the teachers could - and should!- also be fired.
Yeah, I know, she "resigned". Yeah, right. Why would she resign when she went on the show to get the money to take classes to keep her teaching license? She was FORCED OUT by an uptight self-righteous knee-jerk conservative politically correct coward of a Superintendent.
The REAL issue is that she went on the Howard Stern show. So what? Who cares?
And no one would even have known if the Supe hadn't made it into a big deal.
I hope she fights, wins, AND sues them for damages!
She was in a BIKINI for Christ's sake! Who cares?

Since: May 08

Boston, MA

#209 May 27, 2008
Steph110 wrote:
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Thank you for the kind words. I am by no means a perfect person or a perfect teacher, but I do try to make choices that I can live with, and know that my loved ones and students will not be hurt by my actions. Marie's students may not specifically know what happened (and I hope they are sheltered from the specifics by their parents), but this fiasco that has turned into losing their teacher could have been avoided by her stopping to think "is this a good decision?" or "could this decision somehow hurt my career?" In the least, realize that it's not something that would be looked highly upon. I do teach compassion and forgiveness, but I feel that she is shocked at what has happened to her. I feel like she feels she has done absolutely no wrong and has made no apologies for anything at all and that I have a problem with. I don't know that it's worth her job, but some consequences should be in place...for anyone (including me or you) when we make a mistake.
I just hope things are settled soon for her and for her students/community.
So your tellimg me, no teacher has gone to the bar, bad judgement, shouldn't be drinking and driving.Oh thats right, teachers don't do those things.
Beofge

United States

#210 May 27, 2008
Drop the Hammer wrote:
Misusing a sick day is not the issue. I'm a huge Howard Stern fan I listen every morning, yet I would be appalled and disgusted if my child's teacher appeared on that show. As a society we hold the profession of teacher in high regard therefore anyone who chooses to join the noble profession of teaching should understand children often look up to their teachers second only to their parents as role models. It shows bad judgement in my opinion.
Jeezus, what a hypocrite you are.

How can you listen to Howard and say this?

It's not okay for a "role model" to wear a bikini? But I bet you think - and I know MOST people seem to think- it's okay for her to be "into" Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Hannah Montana and all the other Hollywood role models and celebrities kids love, even though they dress like sluts and promote sexiness directly to pre-teens.

The teacher did NOTHING wrong. The kids did not have to know about it, SIRIUS is a PAY service, HowardTV is a PAY service, so if any kid saw their teacher in a bikini (oh, how terrible!(???)) it would be because of poor parenting for letting their kids watch adult tv and listen to adult radio.

The teacher did NOTHING wrong - including taking the sick day off - and she should be reinstated immediately and receive an apology from the Superintendent.
whoamitojudge

Monroe, CT

#211 May 27, 2008
I think the worst part about this whole situation is that despite what we, or anyone else thinks, it's now too late for her to regain her position with her reputation fully intact. The BofE has, by their actions, already shown a very conservative view. Unless each parent of her current students, and her fellow teachers are all willing to stand up and request the reinstatement of her job, she's out of luck.
whoamitojudge

Monroe, CT

#212 May 27, 2008
Eye's wide open...

Did she go on the show to fund her education? No. But she had thought 'if I win I'll...'. She did it because I'm sure she thought it was some innocent fun.

Does she admit some fault for poor judgement? I'm sure, but would it matter at this point? Nope.

I said it before and I'll say it again... She was forced to resign due to her appearance on the Stern show. Even if she had scheduled a personal day, the board would have figured a way to 'justify' her termination.

Clearly, based on the 200+ responses, there is a mixed bag of opinions, from one extreme to another and everything in between. Trouble is, the decision was made by one extreme to force the resignation. In my opinion, the decision was not one from an objective point of view, and there enlies the problem. Do the FACTS justify the EXTENT OF the ACTION taken? No.
EinCT

United States

#213 May 27, 2008
Frightening wrote:
Jen, I'm sure you're having lots of fun sitting in your local library while you wait for your unemployment check to arrive.
By the way, Kristen, I'm a college educated male, working (look it up if needed) a full time job.
Juding by your ignorant and crass comments, I'm guessing college and a job are both out of your reach.
If you had the education you say you have, your grammer and spelling would have no errors. So, before you slam someone else, check yourself.
EinCT

United States

#214 May 27, 2008
Bizzyasab wrote:
<quoted text>OK I'm guilty, we all took the day off to go to the casino to celebrate our sons 21st Bday, even our 10 yr old. I guess 6 of us get fired and 1 gets suspended from school.LOL
Why are you bringing a 10yr old to a casino anyway? Its horrible for their physical health to begin with - the smoke alone, not to mention the morality of it all. Kids should be banned from casinos!
EinCT

United States

#215 May 27, 2008
Miche wrote:
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And now her bikini clad body is being flashed all over the news for everyone to see...she is making it worse for herself. Older students could access www.wtnh.com and recognize the teacher. Even if they didn't HEAR the show, seeing the pictures is worse.
So I guess they never visit a beach or pool then? Yah Ok! You're clueless
Alex Soast

Revere, MA

#216 May 28, 2008
Of course she was coerced (if not extorted). How ironic that she said on the show that she needed the money to get her Master's Degree.

I know a family that has a child in her class and I have been told she is a marvelous teacher.

It strikes me as completely unfair that she was told to resign over Howard Stern. Had it been just for misusing a sick day, another type of remediation would have been issued.

She did nothing immoral and the Puritanical values expressed by the Superintendent are grounds for his dismissal. It was not justified to take away this fine teacher's livelihood or traumatize her students the way he did!

PLEASE FIGHT BACK FOR HER!
Lopez410

Marion, CT

#217 Jun 4, 2008
I think what she did was wrong. She is a role model to her students. Did she not think about how the parents of her students were going to see her as? I would not want my children being in her classroom after knowing she was on the Howard Stern show. My opinion is that she shouldn't get the job back. It was her fault for taking the day for the contest, which she knew other people would hear about. I guess we'll see what happens.

Since: May 08

Boston, MA

#218 Jun 4, 2008
OK,Teachers are expected to be a teacher after hours, and be a role model all the time.Hmmmm, lets remember the parents who give a good example on attending school fuctions with kids, and drink and drive, give me a break, even parents aren't doing there duty.You go girl.Hope you get your job back.

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