Memories of John Lennon

Memories of John Lennon

There are 305 comments on the CNN story from Dec 8, 2010, titled Memories of John Lennon. In it, CNN reports that:

Like millions around the world, I owe my early career choices to the Beatles. As a 6-year-old, I stayed up "late" one Sunday night to watch the Fab Four explode onto the world stage on "the Ed Sullivan Show." There were the Saturday afternoons I walked to the Plaza Theater in downtown Glasgow, Kentucky, to watch "Help!" and "A Hard Day's Night." I ...

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Zippy

Everett, WA

#23 Dec 8, 2010
Original T Jefferson wrote:
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How about I answer that with John's own words:
"Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try
No people below us, above it's only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do
No need to kill or die for and no religions too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can..."
-The modern-pday communist/New World-Order manifesto!-From a guy who admired Mao Zedong- who was a man responsible for the deaths of between 40 -100 million people!
A man who took his name from another mass-murderer Vladimir[Russian for John] Lenin.
A man who said:
"Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first - rock and roll or Christianity." (Looks like he "went" before Christianity! AHAhahahahahah!!!!)
While I can agree with his anti-war stance, I do imagine though that the only reason he took that stance was because of the participants of the war of his day- as he didn't seem to mind a bit when communist despots and tyrants killed millions of their own people- he only seemed to mind it when the conservative establishment did it.
I take it as an honor to be insulted by anyone who does not detest such a pig.
John Lennon had no choice of his given name.John Winston Lennon.I'm sure it has nothing to do with Vladimir Lenin.Matter of fact Winston was given to him after Winston Churchill.What he said was that the Beatles meant more to kids than Jesus in England.Never said he was greater or better.At that time it was true kids would much rather go to a Beatle concert than go to church.I've never any mention of this Mao Zedong.John was against violence and killing so this makes no sense just like your hatred for John Lennon.He wasn't everyones cup of tea but certainly not the monster you make him out to be.

Since: May 10

Glasgow, KY

#24 Dec 9, 2010
Lennon fan wrote:
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You have got to be kidding, and for a smart man like yourself, may have turned dumbass with that remark. Take away the first couple of bubblegum songs, later Beatles and Lennon songs were very deep and way ahead of their times. And I would love to know what music you like.
Are you kidding me? Do you really feel that way? The later stuff was even more unlistenable than the "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" stuff. Sgt. Pepper's and all that other nonsense was absolute garbage. Think about it. How many times are you down at the bar with your buddies shooting pool and hear "Penny Lane" or "I Am the Walrus" come on the juke? Exactly my point! The Beatles (and by extension John Lennon since all the guy ever did was sing for the Beatles) are overrated and obsolete. While Rolling Stone magazine will never say it, John Lennon is a dead relic of a regrettable if not utterly embarrassing time in human history. The media droning on and on about him is especially disconcerting as it harkens back to those awful times.

As far as rock music goes, I liked Led Zeppelin and thought them to be more influential and durable. Like we've established, you don't walk into a bar and hear "Hey Jude". However, you will hear 48 different songs from Zeppelin's back catalog in succession and everyone will be singing along while playing air guitar with their cue sticks. The Zeps were like other-worldy jazz musicians with mystic powers and 12 lbs dongs. They had aura. The Beatles were like a traveling roadside circus. They had hype. That's the essential difference between something truly special and the Beatles. That's why they haven't aged well and why that bar erupted into thunderous applause when Cosell announced that Lennon was finally taken care of.

It's one of those things you're not supposed to say, like Latin people being shady customers or old people smelling like boiled cabbage. However, it's the truth. I respect him as a human being, but let's face the facts. You are asking me to compare Filet Mignon to Hamburger Helper; Billie Holiday to Lady Gaga; Michelangelo to the guy that draws Dilbert. Maybe for what they were the Beatles were all right. However, they meant nothing to people with a developed sense of individual taste and heterosexual males. The article is about memories of John Lennon, and hence this post. My most vivid memory is of clapping and cheering along with countless others when we found out he was going to meet and be judged by the guy he thought he was bigger than a few years earlier.

Since: Oct 09

Hart County, KY.

#26 Dec 9, 2010
Smartest Man in Glasgow wrote:
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Are you kidding me? Do you really feel that way? The later stuff was even more unlistenable than the "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" stuff. Sgt. Pepper's and all that other nonsense was absolute garbage. Think about it. How many times are you down at the bar with your buddies shooting pool and hear "Penny Lane" or "I Am the Walrus" come on the juke? Exactly my point! The Beatles (and by extension John Lennon since all the guy ever did was sing for the Beatles) are overrated and obsolete. While Rolling Stone magazine will never say it, John Lennon is a dead relic of a regrettable if not utterly embarrassing time in human history. The media droning on and on about him is especially disconcerting as it harkens back to those awful times.
As far as rock music goes, I liked Led Zeppelin and thought them to be more influential and durable. Like we've established, you don't walk into a bar and hear "Hey Jude". However, you will hear 48 different songs from Zeppelin's back catalog in succession and everyone will be singing along while playing air guitar with their cue sticks. The Zeps were like other-worldy jazz musicians with mystic powers and 12 lbs dongs. They had aura. The Beatles were like a traveling roadside circus. They had hype. That's the essential difference between something truly special and the Beatles. That's why they haven't aged well and why that bar erupted into thunderous applause when Cosell announced that Lennon was finally taken care of.
It's one of those things you're not supposed to say, like Latin people being shady customers or old people smelling like boiled cabbage. However, it's the truth. I respect him as a human being, but let's face the facts. You are asking me to compare Filet Mignon to Hamburger Helper; Billie Holiday to Lady Gaga; Michelangelo to the guy that draws Dilbert. Maybe for what they were the Beatles were all right. However, they meant nothing to people with a developed sense of individual taste and heterosexual males. The article is about memories of John Lennon, and hence this post. My most vivid memory is of clapping and cheering along with countless others when we found out he was going to meet and be judged by the guy he thought he was bigger than a few years earlier.
I'm saving this post to my computer! Brilliant!

"Comparing Michaelangelo to the guy who draws Dilbert" ROTFL!

And what you say is SO true!-the idea of hearing Hey Jude on a jukebox!! LOL!

When's the last time an oldies station even played anything by the Beatles?

What separates the Beatles from other groups of the time, is that they were the first band to be mass-marketed. The concerted advertising and publicity techniques used to market them is what created "Beatlemania". The actual band or people in it mattered not. They could have done the same thing with virtually any collection of guitar-wielding cretins and the results would have been the same.

I remember the year when Lennon got his dose of "instant karma"- 1980 - I was 18, living in NYC- and it was a better time than today. It was the end of the era when we still had some vestiges of freedom- when old people still possessed some wisdom- when kids still rode bikes and played in the streets. All cars were rear-wheel drive. I tend not to think nostalgically much further after that year.
HANNITY BECK OREILLY RULE

Overland Park, KS

#27 Dec 9, 2010
Elvis is the king.....period not the pedophile MJ or the beatles....nuff said.

Since: May 10

Glasgow, KY

#28 Dec 9, 2010
Original T Jefferson wrote:
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I'm saving this post to my computer! Brilliant!
"Comparing Michaelangelo to the guy who draws Dilbert" ROTFL!
And what you say is SO true!-the idea of hearing Hey Jude on a jukebox!! LOL!
When's the last time an oldies station even played anything by the Beatles?
What separates the Beatles from other groups of the time, is that they were the first band to be mass-marketed. The concerted advertising and publicity techniques used to market them is what created "Beatlemania". The actual band or people in it mattered not. They could have done the same thing with virtually any collection of guitar-wielding cretins and the results would have been the same.
I remember the year when Lennon got his dose of "instant karma"- 1980 - I was 18, living in NYC- and it was a better time than today. It was the end of the era when we still had some vestiges of freedom- when old people still possessed some wisdom- when kids still rode bikes and played in the streets. All cars were rear-wheel drive. I tend not to think nostalgically much further after that year.
Thanks, OTJ. As always, your comments are much appreciated. The Beatles' music was nursery rhyme-ish and John Lennon's words were pedestrian and patronizing to anyone with a sense of intellect or identity. Only Yoko Ono's publicist, a reporter trying to sell an interview and a drooling rube fond of parroting what the idiot box has inculcated into his pea-sized brain would ever say that John Lennon was the result of anything other than marketing. The Beatles had cutesy songs one could easily clap along to. However, I wouldn't call "Mary Had a Little Lamb" genius nor would I suppose that it taught mankind about peace or even lanolin.

Since: Oct 09

Hart County, KY.

#29 Dec 9, 2010
HANNITY BECK OREILLY RULE wrote:
Elvis is the king.....period not the pedophile MJ or the beatles....nuff said.
LOL- another over-rated hack! JMHO.....

Since: May 10

Glasgow, KY

#30 Dec 9, 2010
HANNITY BECK OREILLY RULE wrote:
Elvis is the king.....period not the pedophile MJ or the beatles....nuff said.
I think both Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson were much more talented than John Lennon. Then again, Tiny Tim was more appealing to me than those limey hacks!!!
HANNITY BECK OREILLY RULE

Overland Park, KS

#31 Dec 9, 2010
Original T Jefferson wrote:
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LOL- another over-rated hack! JMHO.....
HMMM 33 MOVIES,MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF RECORDS SOLD, PRETTY MUCH STARTED RCOK AND ROLL AND HAS A NATIONAL SHRINE THAT MILLIONS VISIT YEARLY...I'D LOVE TO BE SUCH A HACK. THE KING ROCKS.

Since: Oct 09

Hart County, KY.

#32 Dec 9, 2010
HANNITY BECK OREILLY RULE wrote:
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HMMM 33 MOVIES,MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF RECORDS SOLD, PRETTY MUCH STARTED RCOK AND ROLL AND HAS A NATIONAL SHRINE THAT MILLIONS VISIT YEARLY...I'D LOVE TO BE SUCH A HACK. THE KING ROCKS.
All that proves is that the masses have no taste. Just look at the swill they have made rich and famous today..... Our modern cultural icons are nothing but glorified white trash and ghetto dwellers- propelled to stardom only because they live in a world where the common man identifies with such.

Would you really want to be like Elvis? A man so miserable that he had to take a concoction of drugs to knock himself out each night...and another concoction to wake up and function each day, until he killed himself by doing so.
Hotline

Glasgow, KY

#33 Dec 9, 2010
HANNITY BECK OREILLY RULE wrote:
Elvis is the king.....period not the pedophile MJ or the beatles....nuff said.
D93 every day.
Jane

Bronx, NY

#34 Dec 9, 2010
Paul McCartney is no good. Yesterday he was more concerned about selling tickets for his concert that tributing his friend John Lennon. He was always jealous of John because John was the favorite of the group. Not only that he is an acomplish to helping hide the inheritance of a lovechild of John Lennon along with Yoko Ono and the Jacksons. It really stinks that this SOB is still walking around like he is a good man a saint. The world needs to know the truth now. Yesterday on BBCA they showed Beatle documentaries and ripped John Lennon apart by saying he slept with a transvestite. They pained a pretty horrible picture of John. Meanwhile Paul was perceived as the sweet one who is so innocent. This creep Paul and Ono need fate to slam them once and for all. It showed May Pange crying saying that John wanted to get back with the band but Yoko told him you don't have to do this. Sometimes I think Yoko got paid back by fate for being an adulterer and taking John away from everyone. Now fate was saying yeah your not going to have him either anymore.
Poppa Jivebones

United States

#35 Dec 9, 2010
Smartest Man in Glasgow wrote:
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Are you kidding me? Do you really feel that way? The later stuff was even more unlistenable than the "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" stuff. Sgt. Pepper's and all that other nonsense was absolute garbage. Think about it. How many times are you down at the bar with your buddies shooting pool and hear "Penny Lane" or "I Am the Walrus" come on the juke? Exactly my point! The Beatles (and by extension John Lennon since all the guy ever did was sing for the Beatles) are overrated and obsolete. While Rolling Stone magazine will never say it, John Lennon is a dead relic of a regrettable if not utterly embarrassing time in human history. The media droning on and on about him is especially disconcerting as it harkens back to those awful times.
As far as rock music goes, I liked Led Zeppelin and thought them to be more influential and durable. Like we've established, you don't walk into a bar and hear "Hey Jude". However, you will hear 48 different songs from Zeppelin's back catalog in succession and everyone will be singing along while playing air guitar with their cue sticks. The Zeps were like other-worldy jazz musicians with mystic powers and 12 lbs dongs. They had aura. The Beatles were like a traveling roadside circus. They had hype. That's the essential difference between something truly special and the Beatles. That's why they haven't aged well and why that bar erupted into thunderous applause when Cosell announced that Lennon was finally taken care of.
It's one of those things you're not supposed to say, like Latin people being shady customers or old people smelling like boiled cabbage. However, it's the truth. I respect him as a human being, but let's face the facts. You are asking me to compare Filet Mignon to Hamburger Helper; Billie Holiday to Lady Gaga; Michelangelo to the guy that draws Dilbert. Maybe for what they were the Beatles were all right. However, they meant nothing to people with a developed sense of individual taste and heterosexual males. The article is about memories of John Lennon, and hence this post. My most vivid memory is of clapping and cheering along with countless others when we found out he was going to meet and be judged by the guy he thought he was bigger than a few years earlier.
Well guess what?Led Zepplin was a product of the early Yardbirds who came out after the Beatles.Paul McCartney was a big fan of Jimmy Page.What you cats don't realize is that the Beatles opened doors for all the other groups to follow.I hear Revolution or Imagine or Helter Skelter at bars I go to.Maybe not every time but it sure as hell beats Rap or the other garbage that's out now.Abbey Road was a master piece and the White album had so many great songs along with a few lame ones also.If you applaud when it was announced the John was murdered than you have a sick mind and hillbilly mentality that no one can reason with so I give up and suggest you just listen to what you like and quit trashing this forum with your hatred of the Beatles and Lennon.The Beatles and Elvis are the most immitated entertainers ever.If Beatle music is so lame then why does it hold up so well after all these years and they still have 3 top selling albums on I-tunes now.You need to be more open minded and listen to Across the Universe or Revolver Album to see that their music was much more than catchy buggle gum songs for young girls to scream at.The Beatles music will still be popular in 20 years from now.Will Justin Timberlakes songs do that? Hell no
Poppa Jivebones

Everett, WA

#37 Dec 9, 2010
Smartest Man in Glasgow wrote:
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I'm not talking about gay leather bars. I'm talking about regular normal bars where regular normal Joes hang out and have a few beers with their buddies without having to worrying about rectal bleeding from going to the bathroom, you fruit cup. Across the Universe isn't a Beatles album. It's a lame British movie made a few years back which nobody saw that used some Beatles songs. Lady Gaga also had the top albums on iTunes, you Mindless dilettante. Grow up. In regular bars frequented by heterosexual males, you'll hear many kinds of music (some admittedly weird, like Journey). However, you'll never hear Revolution or Helter Skelter. By the way, what kind of bar music is Imagine? That's how I know you're full of it, you ponce. You couldn't even do a good job of parroting all the old cliches said about the Beatles. I give you a D for presentation and an F- for originality. Abbey Road is a "masterpiece"? You really just spouted that off? Oh please, Jann Wenner. Are you going to go off about Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan and the Clash next? Moron...
Listen you homo hillbilly moron.Across the universe is a song off of Let It be and a very good song at that.But I guess an ignorant hillbilly redneck wouldn't know that.Yes Abbey Road is a very well composed Album with quality songs.Led Zepplin was a great band I'll agree but they have never sold as many albums as the Beatles and never will.I'll give you a D for dumbass and an F for Fricking narrow minded redneck.
Herkimer Haiku

Rochester, NY

#38 Dec 9, 2010
Dumbass in Glasgow
you're such a pretentious ass
hope you get Chapman'd
Fischer

Medina, OH

#39 Dec 9, 2010
Smartest Man in Glasgow wrote:
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I'm not talking about gay leather bars. I'm talking about regular normal bars where regular normal Joes hang out and have a few beers with their buddies without having to worrying about rectal bleeding from going to the bathroom, you fruit cup. Across the Universe isn't a Beatles album. It's a lame British movie made a few years back which nobody saw that used some Beatles songs. Lady Gaga also had the top albums on iTunes, you Mindless dilettante. Grow up. In regular bars frequented by heterosexual males, you'll hear many kinds of music (some admittedly weird, like Journey). However, you'll never hear Revolution or Helter Skelter. By the way, what kind of bar music is Imagine? That's how I know you're full of it, you ponce. You couldn't even do a good job of parroting all the old cliches said about the Beatles. I give you a D for presentation and an F- for originality. Abbey Road is a "masterpiece"? You really just spouted that off? Oh please, Jann Wenner. Are you going to go off about Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan and the Clash next? Moron...
The Beatles has more appeal to the masses, their music is really good and creative. Even their bubble gum was advanced for the time with new elements. The girls went crazy for them, they all did, because of their charm, humor, and acting natural, and of course, the music. Of course, you won't hear most Beatles music in a guy bar, and Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal/hard rock band. The Beatles are rock and roll. What do we hear in the bars? The same tired songs, You Shook Me, Legs, Brown Sugar, and so on. Great songs, no doubt, but this is the stuff that gets over-played in the classic rock genre. Most Beatles songs in the later years you can't dance to, but Beatles music is mostly for LISTENING and enjoying in and of itself.

We like John Denver a lot, too, and I'm sure his music doesn't get played in bars either. So what? That doesn't take away from his mass appeal either. There is room for all kinds of music here.

Since: May 10

Glasgow, KY

#40 Dec 9, 2010
Poppa Jivebones wrote:
<quoted text>Listen you homo hillbilly moron.Across the universe is a song off of Let It be and a very good song at that.But I guess an ignorant hillbilly redneck wouldn't know that.Yes Abbey Road is a very well composed Album with quality songs.Led Zepplin was a great band I'll agree but they have never sold as many albums as the Beatles and never will.I'll give you a D for dumbass and an F for Fricking narrow minded redneck.
So what you told me earlier is to listen to an album and a song as that is what the Beatles have to offer. Not even two albums worth of songs. By the way, great grammar and syntax! It really leaves you in a position to cast aspersions based on intellect and totally disproves my assertion that only morons like the Beatles. Quick English Lesson: I just employed the use of the literary device known as "Irony". Oh, and the bar I spoke of where everyone erupted into pangs of joy and laughter at the news of Lennon's death was in Center City. That's the downtown area of my hometown: Philadelphia. I'm not a hillbilly. Secondly, I have a Master's degree. This is an accomplishment a mindless drone like you lacks the intellect for. However, you are both naive and uneducated. Nothing to do with the easily stereotype-able Pacific Northwest. You're just sorry. Thirdly, kiss my Anglo-Saxon Protestant ass, you underaged little queer. You are nothing and like your parents will never be anything. You lack intellect, individuality, character, personality, creativity and class. Do the world a favor and do like your regional John Lennon and give a loaded shotgun a blow job. Figure that one out, you subpar knuckle-dragging piss ant.

“They call me the Fireman”

Since: Jul 10

Glasgow/Rocky Hill

#41 Dec 9, 2010
I hate John Lennon... stupid ass atheist...and hippie...GOD IS REAL
Poppa Jivebones

Everett, WA

#42 Dec 9, 2010
Fischer wrote:
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The Beatles has more appeal to the masses, their music is really good and creative. Even their bubble gum was advanced for the time with new elements. The girls went crazy for them, they all did, because of their charm, humor, and acting natural, and of course, the music. Of course, you won't hear most Beatles music in a guy bar, and Led Zeppelin is a heavy metal/hard rock band. The Beatles are rock and roll. What do we hear in the bars? The same tired songs, You Shook Me, Legs, Brown Sugar, and so on. Great songs, no doubt, but this is the stuff that gets over-played in the classic rock genre. Most Beatles songs in the later years you can't dance to, but Beatles music is mostly for LISTENING and enjoying in and of itself.
We like John Denver a lot, too, and I'm sure his music doesn't get played in bars either. So what? That doesn't take away from his mass appeal either. There is room for all kinds of music here.
Right on Fischer you have posted the truth.These trolls seem to be bent on bashing the Beatles and have no real credibility to what they have to say.Just mindless moron troll talk mostly.
Poppa Jivebones

Everett, WA

#43 Dec 9, 2010
Smartest Man in Glasgow wrote:
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So what you told me earlier is to listen to an album and a song as that is what the Beatles have to offer. Not even two albums worth of songs. By the way, great grammar and syntax! It really leaves you in a position to cast aspersions based on intellect and totally disproves my assertion that only morons like the Beatles. Quick English Lesson: I just employed the use of the literary device known as "Irony". Oh, and the bar I spoke of where everyone erupted into pangs of joy and laughter at the news of Lennon's death was in Center City. That's the downtown area of my hometown: Philadelphia. I'm not a hillbilly. Secondly, I have a Master's degree. This is an accomplishment a mindless drone like you lacks the intellect for. However, you are both naive and uneducated. Nothing to do with the easily stereotype-able Pacific Northwest. You're just sorry. Thirdly, kiss my Anglo-Saxon Protestant ass, you underaged little queer. You are nothing and like your parents will never be anything. You lack intellect, individuality, character, personality, creativity and class. Do the world a favor and do like your regional John Lennon and give a loaded shotgun a blow job. Figure that one out, you subpar knuckle-dragging piss ant.
You must have a masterbater degree not a masters degree.You are a worthless piece of crap who is narrow minded and uneducated when it comes to music.You have the personality of turd and you will always be a turd.do the world a favor and flush your sorry self down you are stinking up this forum with your BS and you Fu-ked up attitude Philly cornhole boy.
Fischer

Medina, OH

#44 Dec 9, 2010
Poppa Jivebones wrote:
<quoted text>Right on Fischer you have posted the truth.These trolls seem to be bent on bashing the Beatles and have no real credibility to what they have to say.Just mindless moron troll talk mostly.
I wouldn't even call the early Beatles stuff Bubble-gum, though I used the term. That was Rock and Roll back then and it's still fun to hear now. I think it was Mick Jagger who had said the Beatles paved the way for the rest of them. The Beatles has influenced countless bands. They were the innovators. They wrote and performed all their music. There is a lot to be counted for the Beatles. The Beatles were looked up to by other bands at the time.

These guys have issue because the Beatles isn't hard enough rock for them, although it could be arguably said that Helter Skelter was the first mainstream hard rock/metal song. I think Paul said he wanted to write something harder and dirtier than The Who's song, I can see for miles.

So some people may be sick of the hype, but I think it's not unvalidated. I never much cared for Madonna, but she is talented and had mass appeal, too. Same goes for Michael Jackson and the same would be said for Lady Gaga, another I don't care for. So people have different tastes in music.

But I think the Beatles are pretty cool, at least as cool as the Stones. And it's funny how in the Stones early years, how they followed the Beatles so closely with their songs and album covers. Yes, the Beatles were very much respected.

I, myself, get tired of the John Lennon hype, mostly the idolatry and worship. I am very much interested in reading about the Beatles, mostly because John was such an enigmatic person. Just trying to understand him and his actions. Sometimes I think he was an insensitive ass, others a troubled and vulnerable soul. He didn't deserve to be shot. I don't believe in the song Imagine because it is just too unrealistic anyway and would lead to anarchy. I don't believe the U.S. is solely responsible for world peace either. And I don't believe in saying "Peace" makes it so and being a complete pacifist isn't always the smartest thing either.

Hey, Paul McCartney is on Jimmy Falon's show right now! Oh, he's starting to look old!:(

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