TV Ratings: CBS Repeats Beat 'Momma's Boys,' 'Prison Break' on ...

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'Two and a Half Men' LOS ANGELES -- Fast National ratings for Monday, Dec. 22 TV viewers chose to rewatch an episode of their favorite CBS show on Monday night, allowing the network to win the night in ...
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Rena Moretti

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Dec 23, 2008
 
Fox is not doing itself any favors by yanking House around the schedule.

Prison Break is definitely dead in the ratings (it never showed that much life in the first place). Will Fox hang on to it way past the point of diminishing ratings returns?
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Dec 23, 2008
 
Rena Moretti wrote:
Fox is not doing itself any favors by yanking House around the schedule.
Prison Break is definitely dead in the ratings (it never showed that much life in the first place). Will Fox hang on to it way past the point of diminishing ratings returns?
Fox is only moving House to monday so it can be paired with 24 (in hopes that people will stay tuned for 24 since its been off the air for 2 years). Also they want their new dramas like Fringe and Lie to Me to get the idol boost. Also it's highly likely that this will be the final season for Prison Break. FOX has 6 more episodes to air midseason plus an additional 2 they ordered to serve possibly as a series finale or movie. With ratings this bad, it's better for FOX to end the series now rather than drag it on any longer.
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Dec 23, 2008
 
It was nice to see someone other than Cleveland or Pittsburgh on MNF. For a once the game was meaningful & was over by the first half.
Go Bears!
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Dec 24, 2008
 
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Fox is only moving House to monday so it can be paired with 24 (in hopes that people will stay tuned for 24 since its been off the air for 2 years). Also they want their new dramas like Fringe and Lie to Me to get the idol boost. Also it's highly likely that this will be the final season for Prison Break. FOX has 6 more episodes to air midseason plus an additional 2 they ordered to serve possibly as a series finale or movie. With ratings this bad, it's better for FOX to end the series now rather than drag it on any longer.
It's just too bad that Fox isn't focused on getting new hits on and would rather stunt to bolster the ratings of shows like Fringe.

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Dec 24, 2008
 
Those are pretty low ratings for the "most anticipated new show of the year" (Momma's Boys).
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Dec 25, 2008
 
NBC should pull Momma's boys off the air.
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Dec 25, 2008
 
Rena Moretti wrote:
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It's just too bad that Fox isn't focused on getting new hits on and would rather stunt to bolster the ratings of shows like Fringe.
FOX hopes that Lie to Me will become a new hit and hopefully retain a lot of idol. However they also don't want to give up on Fringe which has performed modestly so hopefully the idol lead in will help the show. I'm sure based on how it does in the spring FOX will make a final decision on whether or not to give a second year to Fringe.
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Dec 26, 2008
 
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FOX hopes that Lie to Me will become a new hit and hopefully retain a lot of idol. However they also don't want to give up on Fringe which has performed modestly so hopefully the idol lead in will help the show. I'm sure based on how it does in the spring FOX will make a final decision on whether or not to give a second year to Fringe.
My guess is they'll give it a second year regardless and will then be "shocked and disappointed" when the second year fails to do any better. ;)
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Dec 26, 2008
 
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Those are pretty low ratings for the "most anticipated new show of the year" (Momma's Boys).
Quote like "The Most Anticipated New Show" are what makes me love PR!!

It doesn't say who was doing the anticipation so one can only assume the network executives were the ones that were talked about (hence the compete truth of the quote! ;))
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Dec 28, 2008
 
Rena Moretti wrote:
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My guess is they'll give it a second year regardless and will then be "shocked and disappointed" when the second year fails to do any better. ;)
They probably will give it a second year since FOX needs dramas and this show looks strong to them. Hopefully the show will perform well if it gets a second season in my best hopes for FOX but then again its highly likely to slump like Terminator. If it does get renewed and FOX ends up dumping Prison Break, the show could potentially air Mondays, where the network is having troubles.
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Dec 30, 2008
 
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They probably will give it a second year since FOX needs dramas and this show looks strong to them. Hopefully the show will perform well if it gets a second season in my best hopes for FOX but then again its highly likely to slump like Terminator. If it does get renewed and FOX ends up dumping Prison Break, the show could potentially air Mondays, where the network is having troubles.
Most of their troubles comes from renewing middling shows with very little hope for improvement.

It's actually quite amazing to me as Fox was exactly the opposite a few years back. They tried a number of shows on Friday to try and capture The X-Files thunder again (Strange Luck comes to mind) and canceled them all quickly (even as X-Files took a year and a half to grow).

The only similarity is that then as now Fox could not identify promising shows with any accuracy.
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Dec 31, 2008
 
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Most of their troubles comes from renewing middling shows with very little hope for improvement.
It's actually quite amazing to me as Fox was exactly the opposite a few years back. They tried a number of shows on Friday to try and capture The X-Files thunder again (Strange Luck comes to mind) and canceled them all quickly (even as X-Files took a year and a half to grow).
The only similarity is that then as now Fox could not identify promising shows with any accuracy.
FOX should never start a show out on Fridays, it may have worked for the X-Files but it never works out for shows now. Even CBS had troubles when they added The Ex List to their lineup. Unless its a really promising show, premiering a show on Friday or moving it to friday is the kiss of death. Lets see how Flashpoint turns out next year.
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FOX should never start a show out on Fridays, it may have worked for the X-Files but it never works out for shows now. Even CBS had troubles when they added The Ex List to their lineup. Unless its a really promising show, premiering a show on Friday or moving it to friday is the kiss of death. Lets see how Flashpoint turns out next year.
CSI started on Fridays.:)

Fridays used to be a high-TV-viewership night. The only reason it's not any more is that the networks are doing to it what the did to Saturdays.

The current network executives are a great study on how to sacrifice the long-term fitness of your business for illusory short-term gains.
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Jan 2, 2009
 
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CSI started on Fridays.:)
Fridays used to be a high-TV-viewership night. The only reason it's not any more is that the networks are doing to it what the did to Saturdays.
The current network executives are a great study on how to sacrifice the long-term fitness of your business for illusory short-term gains.
I know about CSI but that was a while ago when viewership in general was up. And CSI is a very promising and good show when it started out, and its a good thing CBS moved it. Also Everybody Loves Raymond started on fridays and didn't do that great but it was moved and after that it became a highly rated and popular show.
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I know about CSI but that was a while ago when viewership in general was up. And CSI is a very promising and good show when it started out, and its a good thing CBS moved it. Also Everybody Loves Raymond started on fridays and didn't do that great but it was moved and after that it became a highly rated and popular show.
The point being that shows can find an audience on Fridays and that it's very hard to argue that nothing can grow there when some shows do, and when they do they are moved away.

I'd argue that CSI would probably have completely renewed Friday as a highly-watched night of TV if CBS hadn't moved it.

There is a certain self-fulfilling prophecy quality to the way the networks killed Saturdays and are now killing Fridays (and cable is taking advantage of the relinquishing of Fridays to launch shows there!)
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The point being that shows can find an audience on Fridays and that it's very hard to argue that nothing can grow there when some shows do, and when they do they are moved away.
I'd argue that CSI would probably have completely renewed Friday as a highly-watched night of TV if CBS hadn't moved it.
There is a certain self-fulfilling prophecy quality to the way the networks killed Saturdays and are now killing Fridays (and cable is taking advantage of the relinquishing of Fridays to launch shows there!)
The cable networks figure that fridays are perfect to air there shows. Since the broadcast networks are heavy on airing their shows every other day of the week, networks like USA and SCI-fi see fridays as a vacant television viewing night. Shows like Psych, Monk, and Stargate do really well on fridays taking viewers away from some shows on broadcast networks.
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The cable networks figure that fridays are perfect to air there shows. Since the broadcast networks are heavy on airing their shows every other day of the week, networks like USA and SCI-fi see fridays as a vacant television viewing night. Shows like Psych, Monk, and Stargate do really well on fridays taking viewers away from some shows on broadcast networks.
I think the way to look at it is that cable proves the idea that Friday is a bad night of TV wrong again and again.:)

Well, SciFi really does prove that if the shows aren't good it doesn't matter when they're programmed. ;)

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Jan 6, 2009
 
I'd rather watch a repeat of Father of the Pride than a new episode of Momma's Boys any day.
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I think the way to look at it is that cable proves the idea that Friday is a bad night of TV wrong again and again.:)
Well, SciFi really does prove that if the shows aren't good it doesn't matter when they're programmed. ;)
It does seem that way. I just want to see how FOX's Sci-fridays performs agains the sci-fi channel. Its sad to see that shows on cable networks get just over 4 million viewers and NBC can't even reach that with Lipstick Jungle. Or that ABC is just getting over those numbers with Wife Swap and Supernanny.
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It does seem that way. I just want to see how FOX's Sci-fridays performs agains the sci-fi channel. Its sad to see that shows on cable networks get just over 4 million viewers and NBC can't even reach that with Lipstick Jungle. Or that ABC is just getting over those numbers with Wife Swap and Supernanny.
SciFi Channel has abysmal ratings. They consider is "great ratings" when they reach 2 million viewers.

They are so much better at hyping their shows than at delivering audiences, a lot of people think SciFi has decent ratings. They don't.

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