Cynthia Nixon's Comments On Choice Us...

Cynthia Nixon's Comments On Choice Used To Support 'Ex-Gay' Therapy

There are 13 comments on the www.ontopmag.com story from Feb 14, 2012, titled Cynthia Nixon's Comments On Choice Used To Support 'Ex-Gay' Therapy. In it, www.ontopmag.com reports that:

Maggie Gallagher of the National Organization for Marriage used the comment in discussing the gay community's opposition to "ex-gay" therapy, which attempts to "cure" gay men and lesbians.

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Since: Feb 11

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#1 Feb 14, 2012
I just love how obese maggie actually believes she knows the thoughts, minds and feelings of the LGBTQ people. Of course miss piggy, being gay in America is hard, its hard because of people like you who hate themselves so much that you need to take it out on whatever minority you can get away with.

But the truth is it really no longer matters what this pig says any more. These fundies are slowly losing ground. Soon miss piggy maggie will be seen sitting at McDonalds all alone crying over her happy meal.
Bob

Houston, TX

#3 Feb 14, 2012
Maggie is FAT! Probably a choice too!

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#4 Feb 14, 2012
Cynthia Nixon wrote:
I believe bisexuality is not a choice, it is a fact. What I have 'chosen' is to be in a gay relationship.
Nixon was quite clear. She is bi. She couldn't be gay if she wanted to be, any more than she could be straight. Because she's bi.

Why is that so difficult for people to understand?
hi hi

Pottstown, PA

#5 Feb 14, 2012
As usual, and I will never stop saying this because I delight (more than anyone will ever know) in saying it, I should think the pro-gay would have no problem at all in examining Gallagher's credentials and asking whether -- in any factual forum or court of law -- she would like to go up against the AMA, the APA, and millions of gay people worldwide.

As some pundits have pointed out, the antigay are in a WORSE position if this is regarded as a choice, because then we go from comparing being gay to being black

to

comparing being gay to the choice of RELIGION.

I realize it must be very, very frustrating, even a provocation to hysteria, that the antigay have to constantly deal with facts which kick them back to square one. That is not the problem of gay people or the pro-gay; it is the problem of people like Gallagher whose views *soooooo coincidentally* dovetail with her ANTIGAY RHETORIC, no more and no less.

Gallagher is well aware that every time she speaks, the pro-gay are CHAMPING AT THE BIT to challenge her on her assertions, and have NO problem doing so immediately, publicly, and nose-to-nose.

Perhaps Gallagher should be realizing that they probably know something she and the rest of the antigay don't: that any and all certitude, proof, or preponderance of proof demonstrates that Nixon's SECOND statement was logical fact, and that Gallagher's attempts to lie about it *are in line with a recorded and public record of lies* from NOM and from its spokespersons.

Provable, publicly documented lies, no less, on the part of that organization,

which is widely regarded by the pro-gay -- down to average citizens nationwide -- as a hate group.

A hate group.

Think about it.
Sei

Since: Nov 08

Salem, MA

#6 Feb 14, 2012
hi hi wrote:
As some pundits have pointed out, the antigay are in a WORSE position if this is regarded as a choice, because then we go from comparing being gay to being black
to
comparing being gay to the choice of RELIGION.
Some of us already do that, you know. I even just wrote and posted this:

http://lezgetreal.com/2012/02/should-it-matte...

And, yes, it won't make a difference.

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

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#7 Feb 14, 2012
Ironic, isn't it? Literally millions of gay and lesbian people affirm their personal truth ... that their orientation is not a choice ... and the bigots rush to tell them that they don't know themselves or are lying.

Then one bisexual mis-speaks and suddenly becomes the resident expert for those same bigots.

It's ludicrous.
hi hi

Pottstown, PA

#8 Feb 14, 2012
Sei wrote:
<quoted text>
Some of us already do that, you know. I even just wrote and posted this:
http://lezgetreal.com/2012/02/should-it-matte...
And, yes, it won't make a difference.
Won't make a difference to the antigay? My concern is zero, and I bat aside all their "contributions" as fast and as furiously as any of them can contribute. One cannot have dialogue with the antigay because they deal EXCLUSIVELY in lies and illogic. Literally NOTHING they say is truthful -- literally NONE of it.

Won't make a difference because gay rights, either way, still have all the sanctity and god-given legitimacy that anyone's rights have? Then I agree, and humbly thank you for your delightful and correct contribution.:D
hi hi

Pottstown, PA

#9 Feb 14, 2012
JMichael in Fort Worth wrote:
Ironic, isn't it? Literally millions of gay and lesbian people affirm their personal truth ... that their orientation is not a choice ... and the bigots rush to tell them that they don't know themselves or are lying.
Then one bisexual mis-speaks and suddenly becomes the resident expert for those same bigots.
It's ludicrous.
One of you is always contributing something brilliant. Agreed.

NOM is a hate group. I wonder how many people recite that, though, and how many BELIEVE it. I believe it with every fiber of my being; I believe (based on numerous bits of evidence) that they PLOT their hatred with malice aforethought, and specifically, deliberately plot to undermine gay rights and gay families.

This would be a SMALL CLUE as to why I insist up, down and sideways that the antigay have no moral code whatsoever, and I will not stop insisting between now and the hour of my death.
Sei

Since: Nov 08

Salem, MA

#10 Feb 14, 2012
hi hi wrote:
<quoted text>
Won't make a difference to the antigay? My concern is zero, and I bat aside all their "contributions" as fast and as furiously as any of them can contribute. One cannot have dialogue with the antigay because they deal EXCLUSIVELY in lies and illogic. Literally NOTHING they say is truthful -- literally NONE of it.
Won't make a difference because gay rights, either way, still have all the sanctity and god-given legitimacy that anyone's rights have? Then I agree, and humbly thank you for your delightful and correct contribution.:D
Oh, I know. I often end up arguing that these are people who are searching for anything they can to justify their bigotry. What it comes down to is that they hate lesbians and gays, but they have to come up with a way to justify that bigotry.

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#11 Feb 14, 2012
I'm sure Cynthia is bisexual and that's why she thinks you can choose either one. I think another article said she didn't choose to be bi but chose a relationship with another woman.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#12 Feb 14, 2012
equalityboy81 wrote:
I'm sure Cynthia is bisexual and that's why she thinks you can choose either one. I think another article said she didn't choose to be bi but chose a relationship with another woman.
I don't think she said YOU could choose. She said she did.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#13 Feb 14, 2012
An educator friend of mine in New York had to deal with her and said she was a true C*NT about it. She lied and lied and lied. He told me all the educators were disgusted by her behavior. She is very mixed up and is doing anything to get her name into print. Hey, Cynthia, it's OVER. Let's ask Anne Heche how HER career is going nowdays, shall we?
Mitt s Airtight Dog Crate

Media, PA

#14 Feb 14, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Nixon was quite clear. She is bi. She couldn't be gay if she wanted to be, any more than she could be straight. Because she's bi.
Why is that so difficult for people to understand?
Because C. Nixon wasn't so clear on this in her first remark on the subject, which _anyone_ could have seen would prove unhelpful.

Of course, C. Nixon was upset and adamant in defending her initial remarks when it was suggested they would prove unhelpful.

She's not really up to speed, even given her later clarification.

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