Filmmaker to document bowling alley m...

Filmmaker to document bowling alley murders

There are 33 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Sep 4, 2009, titled Filmmaker to document bowling alley murders. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

In the summer of 1990, Charlie Minn saw an episode of "Unsolved Mysteries." A student at Boston University, Minn was pulled into one particular segment of the TV show.

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Max Cherry

Santa Fe, NM

#1 Sep 4, 2009
Good luck to Charlie Minn. This is just another one of the many murders that have happened in Las Cruces that our local police just cannot solve.
PSYKO ONE 915

United States

#2 Sep 4, 2009
I hope they find whoever did this. I had the honor of meeting Amy prior to her death. She was a very sweet girl.
Jay

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Sep 4, 2009
Let's not forget the unsolved murder of Sue Bannister. She was a bartender at El Patio Bar.....she was a VERY sweet lady.
blue sky

Los Lunas, NM

#4 Sep 4, 2009
Lets just focus on one thing for now. All murders are important but this is the main focus for Charlie Minn.
Good Luck

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Sep 4, 2009
I sure hope this is able to get things started again. These families deserve to know why their loved ones died and who was to blame. I remember this day like it was yesterday! It was horrible. Good luck in finding and bringing to justice the animals who did this. For those who wonder why this incident warrants such attention over another, please understand that it does not. One life is as important as another, but let's take advantage of this man's efforts to take care of these first then we can focus on the next, then the next, etc.
AliceG

Rio Rancho, NM

#6 Sep 5, 2009
The Bowling Alley opened right back up less than one week later after this happened. That alone was suspicious.

It is clear the men were assassins and those unfortunate souls saw the faces of their killers and were executed.

One question raised at the time, but never answered, was did the owner or a family member of the bowling alley have a gambling/drug debt? Perhaps if this would have happened to Ruben Smith or Susanna Martinez's family, then there is a chance more resources would have been put into the case.
chance

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Sep 5, 2009
I was 9 when that happened. If Minn has stir the pot to get people to remember that is either total BS or really sad. I lean toward the latter. Regardless of why it happened,I believe that violence is reminiscent of the current border situation, if you catch my drift. That is just a thought,a nothing,a place my mind wondered looking for SOME reason as to why. I knew one of the victims who survived fairly well and I am outraged frankl that some guy from Manhattan wants to come here and make us look like fools to get his loafers wet at some film festival. Something along the lines of "such a terrible trajedy that people who where alive don't remember and those who weren't don't know it happened".
I will NEVER forget that morning and shame on you that might have. I have lived in many large metro areas and seen much "worse" crimes happen but this happened to MY bowling alley. To MY town.
Correct me if I am wrong but that was the most heinous crime to ever happen in this town.
I as a resident of this town do not for one welcome him to do this nor do I deem it necessary to do.
LC Today

AOL

#8 Sep 5, 2009
I was living here at the time of these murders also, and yes, it was an awful crime where too many innocent people lost their lives.

The two worthless guys, that I am sure were hired to target the owner of the bowling alley at the time, are probably long dead. You can't believe, for one minute, that somebody would leave them alive to point fingers. So as far as finding who did it, Mr. Minn, you are wasting your time with that part of it.
Not needed

United States

#9 Sep 5, 2009
Good Luck, I can't believe its been 20 years, I hope that this might get someone to talk and maybe get some more leads, the murders are probably in Mexico or dead at this time though.

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#10 Sep 5, 2009
I can't enter the bowling alley location
and not think of what happened there.

Maybe, a reason I rarely go there.

We used to league bowl every week before that.

Sorry....it is a horrible memory on a horribe
page in Las Cruces' modern history.
SMS

Las Cruces, NM

#11 Sep 6, 2009
I will be the first to say this is nothing more than charlie Minns effort to make money and boost his Career. The sad part is he is exploiting the lives of these innocent people and their families.
The harsh truth is, this will NEVER be solved. We will never have enough forensic evidence to ever charge anyone in these murders. If the murderers ever want to come forward, then that will be the only way. I suggest people like Charlie Minn leave this alone, leave the families of this horrible tragedy alone, and try and get your name in the paper by some other means. Because some of us here are not buying it!!
sharkey

Las Cruces, NM

#12 Sep 6, 2009
Unless you met Minn, how can you judge this? To his defense, I don't see anyone else coming out in public like this trying to help solve this horrific crime. What else do you want, complete silence? People have to start talking. I am sure the victims families want this solved very badly.

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#13 Sep 6, 2009
SMS wrote:
I will be the first to say this is nothing more than charlie Minns effort to make money and boost his Career. The sad part is he is exploiting the lives of these innocent people and their families.
The harsh truth is, this will NEVER be solved. We will never have enough forensic evidence to ever charge anyone in these murders. If the murderers ever want to come forward, then that will be the only way. I suggest people like Charlie Minn leave this alone, leave the families of this horrible tragedy alone, and try and get your name in the paper by some other means. Because some of us here are not buying it!!
I'm afraid that will never happen in THIS or
any other spectacular or scandelous crimes
in our local history. In the name of digging
up our dead to relive the event, money can
be made.

Cricket Coogler comes to mind.
Younger people
won't know her unless there is an interest
in unsolved crimes and lots of well known
names where plenty of the community still
remember or want to learn it.

Several other names also come to mind...

Me for example. Mid 50's. I knew some of the people accused in that crime and also the victims
at the bowling alley.

I also believe that I hate the exploitation
of painful events are somewhat sdandelous,

but if shaking these trees to make something useful fall to harvest a result, go for it.

If no one does anything, nothing happens.
..
We do remember

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Sep 6, 2009
I see no one has brought up Mrs. Holguin who survived this ordeal.

I'm sure that she has plenty to say. I hope she comes forth and gives us her perspective on living through this.

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#15 Sep 6, 2009
We do remember wrote:
I see no one has brought up Mrs. Holguin who survived this ordeal.
I'm sure that she has plenty to say. I hope she comes forth and gives us her perspective on living through this.
Since she is one of the survivors AFTER a brain
injury, I doubt if she would be very talkative as the murderers are still at large if they are stull alive.

“Your DQCC Limit is Maxed!”

Since: Sep 08

In Utero (originally)

#16 Sep 6, 2009
stopTAGGING ourWALLS wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm afraid that will never happen in THIS or
any other spectacular or scandalous crimes
in our local history. In the name of digging
up our dead to relive the event, money can
be made.
Cricket Coogler comes to mind.
Younger people
won't know her unless there is an interest
in unsolved crimes and lots of well known
names where plenty of the community still
remember or want to learn it.
Several other names also come to mind...
Me for example. Mid 50's. I knew some of the people accused in that crime and also the victims
at the bowling alley.
I also believe that I hate the exploitation
of painful events are somewhat scandalous,
but if shaking these trees to make something useful fall to harvest a result, go for it.
If no one does anything, nothing happens.
..
Hi Blue Eyes! You're one of the few to mention Cricket in a while. The last person to bring this up was an investigative journalist who contacted me. I didn't know you were aware of the case, and I should have directed him in your direction had I known.

Hope all is well with you!

As for the efforts by Charlie Minn, if he can succeed at bringing closure to these families and to this crime, the more power to him. The families are probably relieved to know that others have not forgotten their loved ones, and that someone is making an effort in their memory.

Most victims and/or victim's families are typically relieved to know that their loved ones are being remembered and not forgotten!

I personally wish this gentleman much success!

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#17 Sep 6, 2009
Sarcastic Bombastic wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Blue Eyes! You're one of the few to mention Cricket in a while. The last person to bring this up was an investigative journalist who contacted me. I didn't know you were aware of the case, and I should have directed him in your direction had I known.
Hope all is well with you!
As for the efforts by Charlie Minn, if he can succeed at bringing closure to these families and to this crime, the more power to him. The families are probably relieved to know that others have not forgotten their loved ones, and that someone is making an effort in their memory.
Most victims and/or victim's families are typically relieved to know that their loved ones are being remembered and not forgotten!
I personally wish this gentleman much success!
Hey, Green Eyes.....nice to see you again.
Yes, I knew some of the players in the
Cricket affair. I went to school with Happy's
boys, they went to church in Mesilla, and there were other close associations
with other families which were mentioned in the book, some since deceased or haven't been heard from in some 35 plus years.

But some older members of my extended family and their friend's families who were raised here and worked and played on Main Street during that time, all youngsters at the time still have their own angles on the deal. And others avoid this
like no body's business. Just uncomfortable.

All the more interesting.

There were less than 14,000 population at the time in 1949. People knew stuff.

Cricket would be about 81 years old now.

Knowing names and being able to put faces
to them make this pretty darned interesting. Enough so that I purchased two of the books
and one the movies.

I've even recently been into the desert out by the old Mesquite cemetary (Missionary Ridge) to look around at the teraine and the roads in and out.

Happy Labor Day holiday!

“Your DQCC Limit is Maxed!”

Since: Sep 08

In Utero (originally)

#18 Sep 7, 2009
stopTAGGING ourWALLS wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Green Eyes.....nice to see you again.
Yes, I knew some of the players in the
Cricket affair. I went to school with Happy's
boys, they went to church in Mesilla, and there were other close associations
with other families which were mentioned in the book, some since deceased or haven't been heard from in some 35 plus years.
But some older members of my extended family and their friend's families who were raised here and worked and played on Main Street during that time, all youngsters at the time still have their own angles on the deal. And others avoid this
like no body's business. Just uncomfortable.
All the more interesting.
There were less than 14,000 population at the time in 1949. People knew stuff.
Cricket would be about 81 years old now.
Knowing names and being able to put faces
to them make this pretty darned interesting. Enough so that I purchased two of the books
and one the movies.
I've even recently been into the desert out by the old Mesquite cemetary (Missionary Ridge) to look around at the teraine and the roads in and out.
Happy Labor Day holiday!
Howdy! I'm certain that journalist follows the comments on Topix, plus I have his info. Would you mind helping him if he asks? Let me know. He seemed pretty serious about this too. He sent me some links to his articles & some of his research. He's in touch with Cricket's family members too. Mull it over & let me know, and if you agree...I'll contact the journalist/author.

You have a great Labor Day too. I best get out & do my 9 miles now. I'm behind schedule. ;-) Be safe & be good! Enjoy a brew for me. Hugs!

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#19 Sep 7, 2009
After I learned about a deceased family members (a mother's first husband) possible involvement from a distant relative, but who knows names,
as mentioned in the first books....of course
there were yellow flags of interest in the case to me. An others I know.

The main reason this subject is still hot is
that people then and people today knew other peoples names mentioned
in the book.
The names of very important
and trusted people.
Several who found themselves rather dead or damaged as the blooms fell off the rose.

This story kind of has the mistique of an "old haunted house" surrounded by dead trees and rickety fences. Creepy noises are the plus.

The house has long been empty.

I can add nothing else to what ever else
has been said or written already.

And the people who can aren't talking.
gloria

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Dec 22, 2009
Amy is my daughter n my golden child she taught me to be a mother. i carry a pain in my heart every second. all of us were robbed from our children and part of our lives.if this story gets answers its a blessing. i think I can speak for everyone. we will always want to know why and why!!!! HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS YOUR CHILD? Talking about it always hurts but, thinking about who n why daily also hurts. Nothing hurts more than not being able to see her n touch her and learning to live without her

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