Odie is a complete liar
Dave C

Tampa, FL

#41 May 11, 2011
I believe you can trace Sr's behavior right back to his steriod use. When he was big and juiced he would pop in a moments notice and that would be what we saw on tv between him and jr. Classic roid rage. I read an article that implicated sr with the same steriod supplier as Barry Bonds. When it all came crashing down- or for whatever reason- Sr stopped taking the steriods, lost the muscle weight, and if you notice, mellowed out quite a bit, too. It's all very sad. Maybe this year we'll see a resolution.
Hawk44Gent

Racine, WI

#42 Jun 6, 2011
What a little Douche Bag Odie was. He had a super opportunity at PJD and totally blows it acting like a moronic, shit for brains, little punkass bitch. Scrotie Grodie Odie. I couldn't believe how tolerant Paul Jr was and how much slack he cut that shithead before he finally told the little scrotum face to get the Hell outta his shop. I cheered when Paul Jr said that. YES!!! So Scrotie crawls over to OCC and lies like a rug trashing Paul Jr to the Old Man (another douche bag). Odie is basically 140 pounds of shit stuffed into a 70 pound bag. Jesus, I hate that useless kid. I would have killed to have had an opportunity at that age to work in a custom bike shop when I was 18 or 20. The best part of Odie ran down his father's leg and into his sock. It might be true that Odie was a paid Paul Sr plant but I still think Odie was just a punkass, ratfaced, retard, mongoloid bitch.
Bhibsen

Rosendale, NY

#43 Jun 12, 2011
Choppman has it pegged. So much of this is about money and has been from the beginning. Sr. presents as a big lunkhead but lets not forget this is a guy who was in business for 30 years with Orange County Ironworks before he ever started OCC. As far as Jr.'s worth to the company, I think he clearly contributed more than 20% in terms of the overall value in that he was the primary designer of the theme bikes that made them attractive to elite customers. That being said, I have had my suspicions that the entire feud is about keeping the show intriquing so as to give the business some much needed cash flow. I think we will see what happens in the future. If they are smart they should be putting all their money back into the business.
Bye Bye

Syracuse, NY

#44 Jul 16, 2011
choppman68 wrote:
Again, no response to the post or any points that ive made, that in part is the reason I am leaving the forum. I mean honestly, do you really come on to discuss the show, or just to argue and try yo be clever and funny? Its just not any fun, I actually sit and THINK about what others post, and I take their points of view in consideration what people are saying, etc. Its not worth my time if noone is going to actually talk about the subject. Maybe I'll be able to find a forum that people will talk about the subject. wish me luck
Paul Sr said you have nice lips!
Aceman617

Fort Monroe, VA

#45 Jul 18, 2011
Remember, Sr and Jr have a long history... Sr was an alcoholic, Jr was along with drugs and Sr helped him through it. Mikey has now also has his bout with alcohol as well. Jr and Mikey are spoiled, no doubt. Sr did what he did because he put up with Jr, that why he was fired. As far as the law suit, it was because Jr violated his contract with OCC. Mikey's not being sued; no contract to violate. this is why family should not be in business together. Be careful, put things in perspective before you judge. thanks.
Parker

United States

#46 Dec 6, 2011
crapola wrote:
Odie got fired by jr for treating jr as jr treated sr. That's funny crap. Then sr hires odie back and enjoys hearing the lies odie is telling. That's funny too.
Sr. treated Pauly like pure shit and OCC was built on Pauly's back.
Parker

United States

#47 Dec 6, 2011
I am a father and I am also a company owner. I would never treat my son the way Sr. treats Pauly, its despicable and on every turn Sr. seeks to destroy what Jr. has done for himself. Feck Sr....
Waste of Space

Frisco, TX

#48 Dec 6, 2011
Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
Sr. treated Pauly like pure shit and OCC was built on Pauly's back.
WHAT!! Built on pauly's back...NOT! Get off pauly's nuts.. Lazy ass dude he deserved those ass chewings..
cajun dude

United States

#49 Dec 7, 2011
Parker wrote:
<quoted text>Sr. treated Pauly like pure shit and OCC was built on Pauly's back.
Paula treated Sr with respect of a son to Dad, employee to boss/owner?NOT!!!!! The only time Paula showed any respect was when Sr was taking them on all expense paid trips. Even when jr was guaranteed his pay check, he never respected Sr un the work field.
cajun dude

Broussard, LA

#50 Dec 7, 2011
Parker wrote:
I am a father and I am also a company owner. I would never treat my son the way Sr. treats Pauly, its despicable and on every turn Sr. seeks to destroy what Jr. has done for himself. Feck Sr....
Does your son argue and fight with you in front of other employees or customers? Does he do the job at hand? Is he on time everyday? Dies he have 1 1/2 - 2 hr lunches?
If your son openly disrespected you and every idea you have except signing his pay check you would feel different. Any man gets tired of being questioned and second guessed in every move he makes in life and business, especially by a spoiled brat he supported and raised.

“Be good to each other”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51 Dec 13, 2011
cajun dude wrote:
<quoted text> Does your son argue and fight with you in front of other employees or customers? Does he do the job at hand? Is he on time everyday? Dies he have 1 1/2 - 2 hr lunches?
If your son openly disrespected you and every idea you have except signing his pay check you would feel different. Any man gets tired of being questioned and second guessed in every move he makes in life and business, especially by a spoiled brat he supported and raised.
Hey Cajun hope you had a nice T-giving. Cajun, you know as well as I do that you will never get any of Jr's fans to admit any of his shortcomings. When it comes to Jr and Mikey, I go to this point though. If Sr was a bad as his 2 sons claim, then why in Gods name did they work for him their whole lives? Does anyone REALLY think that if Discovery had never come along and made them all rich, that Jr and Mikey would be doing their own thing now? No, they wouldnt, If OCC had never went beyond being a small custom shop, Jr would still be working for Sr, and Mikey would too, that is, if he could even make the commitment to clean up the shop and show up everyday because Mike has NO employable skills at all. Now, Jr thinks he really is the greatest builder in the whole world because again, the TV show allows him to build "theme bikes", in other words build non functioning rolling billboards who only use PJD, and OCC for that matter because they get very cheap advertising by having their name/product on TV for an hour. If a company pays JR or Sr 2 or 300,000 k to build a bike,( it may be more for some companys) that is dirt cheap advertising, It has nothing to do with the bikes that either shop builds, its just very cheap advertising as, it can cost literally in the millions to get that kind of airtime just shooting regular tv spots. As I have said all along, once this tv show gets canceled, Jr wont be building bikes anymore. Bikes have NEVER really been Jr's passion, He doesnt really ride, he is DEFINATLY not into the biker lifestyle. He only started building bikes because SR wanted to open a custom bike shop and, Im sure Jr thought it would be MUCH better than building railing etc. in hot steel shop everyday. Then, low and behold reality tv came along and made them all rich. Yes, I think Sr is an ass, but at least when he decided to build customs, his heart was in the right place, he was involved in the bike fraternity, Jr was only there because t was better than working in the steel shop. At least OCC will still build a regular customer a bike, Jr is only interested in corporate builds because its the only way he could get by with building trinket laden un rideable crap. That said, almost from day one, the show, and the Teutals have always been the laughing stock amongst real bikers and custom builders. These people who are actually into bikes, KNOW what the Teutels are, and more specifically what JR is. SR does have some respect in the community, JR has none, nor does he deserve any. He is no different than all of the weekend warriors out htere who think it somehow makes them cool to fire up their Harley's on Sat, and only during the summer when they can be the most visable. These types ride their bikes 300 miles a year. They're not bikers, they're posers
cajun dude

United States

#52 Dec 16, 2011
Choppman68 wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Cajun hope you had a nice T-giving. Cajun, you know as well as I do that you will never get any of Jr's fans to admit any of his shortcomings. When it comes to Jr and Mikey, I go to this point though. If Sr was a bad as his 2 sons claim, then why in Gods name did they work for him their whole lives? Does anyone REALLY think that if Discovery had never come along and made them all rich, that Jr and Mikey would be doing their own thing now? No, they wouldnt, If OCC had never went beyond being a small custom shop, Jr would still be working for Sr, and Mikey would too, that is, if he could even make the commitment to clean up the shop and show up everyday because Mike has NO employable skills at all. Now, Jr thinks he really is the greatest builder in the whole world because again, the TV show allows him to build "theme bikes", in other words build non functioning rolling billboards who only use PJD, and OCC for that matter because they get very cheap advertising by having their name/product on TV for an hour. If a company pays JR or Sr 2 or 300,000 k to build a bike,( it may be more for some companys) that is dirt cheap advertising, It has nothing to do with the bikes that either shop builds, its just very cheap advertising as, it can cost literally in the millions to get that kind of airtime just shooting regular tv spots. As I have said all along, once this tv show gets canceled, Jr wont be building bikes anymore. Bikes have NEVER really been Jr's passion, He doesnt really ride, he is DEFINATLY not into the biker lifestyle. He only started building bikes because SR wanted to open a custom bike shop and, Im sure Jr thought it would be MUCH better than building railing etc. in hot steel shop everyday. Then, low and behold reality tv came along and made them all rich. Yes, I think Sr is an ass, but at least when he decided to build customs, his heart was in the right place, he was involved in the bike fraternity, Jr was only there because t was better than working in the steel shop. At least OCC will still build a regular customer a bike, Jr is only interested in corporate builds because its the only way he could get by with building trinket laden un rideable crap. That said, almost from day one, the show, and the Teutals have always been the laughing stock amongst real bikers and custom builders. These people who are actually into bikes, KNOW what the Teutels are, and more specifically what JR is. SR does have some respect in the community, JR has none, nor does he deserve any. He is no different than all of the weekend warriors out htere who think it somehow makes them cool to fire up their Harley's on Sat, and only during the summer when they can be the most visable. These types ride their bikes 300 miles a year. They're not bikers, they're posers
Thanksgiving was great. I have a lot to be thankful for with FAMILY being #1. I said it before, the show with Jessie James was just another way for Sr. to help jr out. J.J. Built an old school chopper, Sr. put together a machine the did not even come close to looking like a motorcycle/ chopper/ trike or any part of the category. Jrs bike had to come out first. JJ said he didn't like, respect the trireme or their works. At the end of the show JJ and Sr was standing on the side grinning about the successful show they( the senior citizens ) put together for Jr. benefit. That sure shows a lot of love and respect from a dad for his son. I wonder how long could Jr or mike work for their brother pulling their spoiled childish stunts with him. Any way,with good food on the stove. Family in our lives, JESUS CHRIST in our heart, I wish everyone out their a VERY MERRY CAJUN CHRISTMAS
Dave

Nottingham, UK

#53 Jan 4, 2012
What a tossed liar as well if snr believes anything he says he's a fool as well
bashman

Bournemouth, UK

#54 Jan 4, 2012
Spell Odie it LIAR *********
tartaruga

Trento, Italy

#55 Jan 6, 2012
odie,sei un gran sfigato,vai avanti cosi che farai strada!!!
tartaruga

Trento, Italy

#56 Jan 6, 2012
che opportunita che gli ha dato jr,a odie!solo un bocia stupido,ingrato,senza risp.xgli altri come odie poteva comportarsi cosi!spero che nessuno lo assumi piu!il bello e che e convinto d aver ragione,peccato che tutto il mondo sa i fatti,e ha visto com e veramente! odie(gia il suo nome t dice tutto!!)vedrai che farai strada!!!
RobertL

AOL

#57 Mar 9, 2012
Chopperman, You must be a child abuser yourself to love Sr. so very much. Maybe you want Sr. to play the part of Bill and you would be Monica Lewinsky? lol lol. I personaly can't stand those so-called theme bikes. The only real bike builder Is Jessie and he was right when he said Sr. is a fool and he did smoke their ass on the build off.
cajun dude

Birmingham, AL

#58 Mar 9, 2012
RobertL wrote:
Chopperman, You must be a child abuser yourself to love Sr. so very much. Maybe you want Sr. to play the part of Bill and you would be Monica Lewinsky? lol lol. I personaly can't stand those so-called theme bikes. The only real bike builder Is Jessie and he was right when he said Sr. is a fool and he did smoke their ass on the build off.
Not!!!! It was a set up so jr could win. JJ build his typical old school chopper and Sr build a track rig that didn't even resemble a bike. It was a set up just like the shows are
choppman68

Brewster, MA

#59 Mar 13, 2012
cajun dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Not!!!! It was a set up so jr could win. JJ build his typical old school chopper and Sr build a track rig that didn't even resemble a bike. It was a set up just like the shows are
Jesse had no chance from jump street in this "competition" 90% of your typical AC viewer's either don't ride, or they are weekend warriors, most true bike guys ( or girls ) don't pay any attention to the show. I was actually surprised that Jesse got 38% of the vote honestly. If Sr had of built a bike, maybe it pulls 20% of the votes from jr, but I still think he wouldve won. Now, if you showed the actual builds to a group of Bikers at bike week, or in Sturgis, then Jr would have gotten his ass smoked. Jesse is the only true craftsman of the 3. Neither Sr nor Jr can come even close to the skilled fabrication that Jesse did on his bike. Yes, I think Rick could pull off some of the fab work that Jesse does, and Brendon seems like hes a good sheet metal guy, but Jr and Sr's "skills" are totally lacking, at least Sr was able to admit that on the aftershow. Jr's bike was well hideous. It looked like a big bicycle from the mary poppins movie with pop rivets. All of Jr's bikes that he does now are so predictable. Big skinny front tire, point scoop on the downtube, He uses that reproduction indian motor on all of his bikes, there really is no creativity, or any skill shown by any of Jr's "team" with the exception of Brendon. Vinnie, who I used to like, but have lost a lot of respect for, basically cuts a few small trinkets, welds the exhaust, and wires the bike. Why would you spend the money on that big flowjet machine and then not even design and cut your own wheels? If you remember the only time that machine was used for anything other than cutting out small logo trinkets was the Anti venom bike, and then it wasnt Vinnie, they actually brought someone else in to cut them. I think as a businessman, Jr is being VERY shortsighted. He will be fine as long as there is a TV show, but what happens when that goes away? Does he really think these companies are going to be running to him to build a bike? Not going to happen. These Corps use him, and OCC because they have a TV show and they get their company on TV for an hour. Its ch eap advertising. If Jr were thinking long term, he would invest the time into having Vinnie learn everything there is to know about that flowjet, and he would be selling his own brand of custom wheels, air cleaners etc. If he really thinks that corp theme bikes will sustain his shop beyond the TV shows run he really is delusional. Nce to see ya Cajun
amen

United States

#60 Mar 14, 2012
choppman68 wrote:
<quoted text>Jesse had no chance from jump street in this "competition" 90% of your typical AC viewer's either don't ride, or they are weekend warriors, most true bike guys ( or girls ) don't pay any attention to the show. I was actually surprised that Jesse got 38% of the vote honestly. If Sr had of built a bike, maybe it pulls 20% of the votes from jr, but I still think he wouldve won. Now, if you showed the actual builds to a group of Bikers at bike week, or in Sturgis, then Jr would have gotten his ass smoked. Jesse is the only true craftsman of the 3. Neither Sr nor Jr can come even close to the skilled fabrication that Jesse did on his bike. Yes, I think Rick could pull off some of the fab work that Jesse does, and Brendon seems like hes a good sheet metal guy, but Jr and Sr's "skills" are totally lacking, at least Sr was able to admit that on the aftershow. Jr's bike was well hideous. It looked like a big bicycle from the mary poppins movie with pop rivets. All of Jr's bikes that he does now are so predictable. Big skinny front tire, point scoop on the downtube, He uses that reproduction indian motor on all of his bikes, there really is no creativity, or any skill shown by any of Jr's "team" with the exception of Brendon. Vinnie, who I used to like, but have lost a lot of respect for, basically cuts a few small trinkets, welds the exhaust, and wires the bike. Why would you spend the money on that big flowjet machine and then not even design and cut your own wheels? If you remember the only time that machine was used for anything other than cutting out small logo trinkets was the Anti venom bike, and then it wasnt Vinnie, they actually brought someone else in to cut them. I think as a businessman, Jr is being VERY shortsighted. He will be fine as long as there is a TV show, but what happens when that goes away? Does he really think these companies are going to be running to him to build a bike? Not going to happen. These Corps use him, and OCC because they have a TV show and they get their company on TV for an hour. Its ch eap advertising. If Jr were thinking long term, he would invest the time into having Vinnie learn everything there is to know about that flowjet, and he would be selling his own brand of custom wheels, air cleaners etc. If he really thinks that corp theme bikes will sustain his shop beyond the TV shows run he really is delusional. Nce to see ya Cajun
Does anybody remember when Vinnie quit he was actually mad a Jr for slacking on his work load, tardiness, having to pull all Jrs weight. Vinnie sounded like Sr he was so mad. Now it looks like he is disappointed in both boys for not respecting Jr in his time of grief.

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